Talk:Trillian (character)

Trillian's heritage
In the 1st book on chapter 4, page 39, it states that "She was a slim, darkish humanoid, with long waves of black hair, a full mouth, and an odd little knob of a nose and ridiculously brown eyes...she looked vaguely Arabic. Not that anyone there had ever heard of an Arab of course."

I merely skimmed over the article, but I don't believe this is mentioned about her book character if someone could make sure of it would be dandy.


 * No, it's not in the article as of right now - if you'd like to add it though, feel free. It'd probably fit in best in one of the paragraphs covering the books. --JohnDBuell 04:37, 9 March 2006 (UTC)

Image
We could use an image of her from the movie in the article.


 * Until the movie is out on DVD (and I don't feel like scanning the photos from the making of book, partly because of Touchstone's copyrights, and partly because of the moiré patterns that would appear), an image from the TV show will have to do. --JohnDBuell 20:44, 15 May 2005 (UTC)


 * there are lots of trailers/promotional shots of the movie though - not sure about copyrights though (clem 21:58, 15 May 2005 (UTC))


 * They're all Copyright 2005 Touchstone Pictures - but the movie version of Marvin in his article comes from their promo materials. I don't know enough about 'fair use' to be able to say one way or another. And don't forget we also _could_ use copies of the images from the Illustrated Edition of the Hitchhiker's Guide book and/or the comic adaptation. Maybe. --JohnDBuell 22:17, 15 May 2005 (UTC)


 * Just a note, and a bit belatedly, but speaking as someone who does use the Buena Vista publicity site extensively (for research, not for images), here's what I know. The agreement when one signs up with them (providing access to members of the press, including webmasters) is for free use as long as it is in connection with the promotion of the film, reviews, etc. So interpret that as you wish. I think *probably* an image for comparison would be allowed, and definitely, one of Zooey Deschanel's Trillian on the movie page would be allowed. Hope this helps. Aleal 02:19, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)


 * The DVD is due in September, so a screenshot could be put into use at that time. --JohnDBuell | Talk 02:02, 23 Jun 2005 (UTC)

The selected picture is typical Hollywood, isn't it? A hard face and a gun! T.


 * Please reconcile the chosen picture with the opening of this article, which states:


 * Physically, she is described as "a slim, darkish humanoid, with long waves of black hair, a full mouth, and an odd little knob of a nose and ridiculously brown eyes."


 * i.e. Find a better picture or don't bother providing one!


 * 92.10.16.237 (talk) 19:23, 19 March 2008 (UTC)


 * It's a perfectly valid picture. OK, it doesn't match Adams' description, but she's hardly the first character in TV/film that doesn't match a written description. It's called artistic license. Ged UK (talk) 19:35, 19 March 2008 (UTC)


 * [Zaphod is] directly responsible for her nickname

Did this get established before the radio version of Mostly Harmless? I don't remember this. Morwen - Talk 16:20, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)


 * In the movie version, she took the nickname "Trillian." In the first book, she's called Trillian until Arthur addresses her by her full name - same with the first radio series and the TV series. We _could_ put a note in about this.... --JohnDBuell | Talk 22:06, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)

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Trillian's name
Zaphod Beeblebrox, who (according to the Quintessential Phase) is directly responsible for his nickname.

Good thing this article or the "Quintessential Phase" link mentions what that is. We wouldn't want anyone with access to some sort of online encyclopedia to have that information. This is the kind of hints to non-existent info that makes wiki links crap. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.185.6.18 (talk) 19:20, 16 November 2008 (UTC)

Other media
In Steven Gould's novel Jumper, a character mentions Trish McMillan. Should the article have a section for references like this? - 151.132.106.25 (talk) 19:07, 25 October 2009 (UTC)

And Another Thing...
This article shows no updates at all related to the sixth book by Eoin Colfer. 74.96.97.176 (talk) 02:09, 11 January 2010 (UTC)

Requested move

 * The following discussion is an archived discussion of the proposal. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. No further edits should be made to this section. 

No consensus to move. Vegaswikian (talk) 21:27, 20 June 2010 (UTC)

Trillian (character) → — We have Arthur Dent instead of Arthur, Zaphod Beeblebrox instead of Zaphod, and Ford Prefect instead of Ford, so it makes sense we should use her surname. Harry Blue5 (talk) 23:21, 13 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Oppose her name is Tricia McMillan 70.29.212.131 (talk) 03:18, 14 June 2010 (UTC)
 * She's known in the Galaxy and throughout the books as Trillian Astra, by your logic we should still move the page to Tricia McMillan. Harry Blue5 (talk) 06:49, 14 June 2010 (UTC)
 * She's known in the books as "Trillian", but several times, in the books and the movie and TV show, it's mentioned she's actually "Tricia McMillan", more prominently than "Trillian Astra". 70.29.212.131 (talk) 07:15, 14 June 2010 (UTC)
 * "Trillian Astra" primary usage is an instant messaging program, according to google search - virtually every hit is about that. A slightly restricted search shows that HHGTG related Trillian Astra results in very few hits  whereas the top hits for "Tricia McMillan" are HHGTG related using a restricted search, shows twice the usage of Trillian Astra ; but by far the greatest usage is plain "Trillian"  which is how the books generally refer to her. And IIRC, she says she's "just Trillian" to Arthur Dent in the first book. 70.29.212.131 (talk) 07:24, 14 June 2010 (UTC)
 * It is worth remembering that in the final books, there are two characters in parallel universes, one stays on Earth and goes by the name "Tricia McMillian", and there is the left-with-Zaphod-in-a-spaceship version, who calls hereself "Trillian Astra". Trillian Astra is the name used in "And Another Thing".  She says that she changed her name in the Movie, "to make it more spacey".   BRIANTIST   (talk) 07:41, 14 June 2010 (UTC)
 * The main reason I wanted this moved to Trillian Astra instead of Tricia McMillan is because of the 5th book, where, probably in order to avoid confusion, Tricia McMillan is always given to the parralel universe and Trillian is given to the main H2G2 universe. In the movie, she is mostly called Tricia, though, I think, but she's very rarely called 'Tricia' in the books themselves. Google hits aren't a perfect way of choosing the best name, but I see your points. Nevertheless, googling 'Stewie' leads to thousands of Stewie Griffin related stuff, but we still name the article Stewie Griffin. Harry Blue5 (talk) 08:54, 14 June 2010 (UTC)
 * The fifth book is not a DNA book. The name is not used in the miniseries, the movie, the radio plays. 70.29.212.131 (talk) 05:07, 15 June 2010 (UTC)
 * As with Zaphod search results all being about Zaphod Beeblebrox as well. Harry Blue5 (talk) 08:58, 14 June 2010 (UTC)
 * But still, in the cases of Arthur, Zaphod and Ford the first names stay the same, and the surnames are quite commonly used, and I think widely known, too. With Trillian, it's just Trillian. Tricia McMillian isn't that used that often. And, as I think, not that well known. Trillian Astra, as you said yourself, is specific to the fifth book, so neither in the Miniseries, nor the Radioplays. And I think it's also not used in the movie. --Completefailure (talk) 21:51, 14 June 2010 (UTC)
 * The Earth is in a plural zone, there are many versions of the Earthly characters, if you wanted to be "in-universe" about it. There are parallel universes in the book as well. With the infinite improbability drive, another Trillian could pop out of thin air. -- BUT any argument that relies on in-universe arguments gets an article deleted usually on Wikipedia. 70.29.212.131 (talk) 05:06, 15 June 2010 (UTC)
 * If we were to include all versions of Arthur/Zaphod/etc. that would take to long, not considering we don't know anything about most of them. I'd only mention the main ones, i.e. Tricia McMillan from Mostly Harmless and Trillian. Also, Astra is her surname in the fith AND sixth books, if that helps, not just the fifth book. Harry Blue5 (talk) 08:45, 15 June 2010 (UTC)

Support I've had second thoughts, if we need a disambiguator it's better to use one which is intrinsic to the person's name or title rather than the sort of thing we put in brackets, see Michael Martin, Baron Martin of Springburn for a similar case. PatGallacher (talk) 13:44, 16 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Comment redirects to Trillian (software) and the WP:PRIMARYUSAGE of "Trillian Astra" is the software, not this character. 70.29.212.131 (talk) 05:59, 17 June 2010 (UTC)
 * In that case I now oppose. PatGallacher (talk) 10:10, 17 June 2010 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the proposal. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

Does anyone have a babelfish?
Can someone make sense of this:
 * During their travels, Trillian discovers that Zaphod may be the more superficially exciting choice, but Arthur is the man who truly cares about her, Arthur commenting when he is about to have his head cut open by the mice that his feelings for Trillian are the only thing that he ever had questions about where the answer made him happy.

If someone could translate that, I'd love them. ViniTheHat (talk) 15:56, 25 May 2011 (UTC)

I THINK it means that while it would be more fun to be with Zaphod, Arthur genuinely cares about her and is thus the better choice for settling down. 70.88.196.65 (talk) 23:52, 26 January 2012 (UTC)

Biography
In the biography section of the article it says that in the movie they contemplated making Trillian only half-human to make Arthur Dent's Solitude more complete, but the 4th or 5th (I think 5th, but I'm not 100% sure) Ford Prefect makes references to Elvis having gone to outer space, thus making Arthur NOT the only human alive. Should mention of this be added? 70.88.196.65 (talk) 23:57, 26 January 2012 (UTC)