Talk:Tripartite Indenture

Bad map?
The map doesn't remotely resemble the text description. In particular, the text notes Norfolk as belonging to the north. Does anyone have a better map? Alternately, can anyone confirm if the text is incorrect? Rhialto (talk) 15:52, 12 February 2020 (UTC)
 * Yes, the map is definitely wrong. I don't have the skills to edit it, but there are other maps showing the Indenture at Google Images. (Some correct; some not. Be careful out there!)

BPMullins | Talk 00:22, 21 October 2020 (UTC)


 * I suggest you request the map's author to request changes. Cnbrb (talk) 12:48, 21 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Mmm. That comes from an old map, which I can't put my hands on, but there is another, a better map, which I saw the other day; I'll look further into the source of that one. Interesting to note that the English information on this indenture seems to be practically non-existent! I wonder why? This feeble article could certainly do with a better map and text! Llywelyn2000 (talk) 17:10, 21 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Interesting side-note here is that the The Owain Glyndwr Society met at Six Ashes recently, where a commemorative plaque was unvailed. Llywelyn2000 (talk) 16:31, 22 October 2020 (UTC)
 * The text discusses Onennau Meigion in some detail, yet the point at which the tripartite meet is way too north, also mentions Percy's land's including Northamptonshire and Warwickshire, which are clearly not encompassed here. Finally, as stated above, Norfolk was also specifically mentioned as Percy's lands as was a connecting strip of land across the Fens.
 * R Rees Davies' book does a good job of explaining the Tripartite's borders and why they were where they were. I've looked for a decent map online and, while I can't find anything that could be sourced here (and lack the abilities to make the map myself), a much better map can be found on this discussion page: https://www.owain-glyndwr.wales/word_web_pages/SixAshesNoticeboard.htm
 * I've removed the map and placed it here for now, it's a shame but it's definitely wrong and it's been nearly a year since there was any updates on this discussion.
 * Cymrogogoch (talk) 15:20, 15 September 2021 (UTC)
 * Cymrogogoch (talk) 15:20, 15 September 2021 (UTC)