Talk:Triple H/Archive 2

Source for how long he is going to be out?
Shouldn't you list the source for how long he is going to be out? It would be helpful--The Showster 15:17, 14 January 2007 (UTC)

I watched A.M. RAW last night and on the bottom news screen it said Triple H will be out for 4-6 months.--&#91;jonrev] 18:23, 14 January 2007 (UTC)

And on Raw itself J.R. said the same thing. -- The Hyb rid  20:31, 14 January 2007 (UTC)

and wwe.com says/said it too User:wrestlingfan4life


 * Your "source" should be the common sense of knowing that's how long it takes to heal a torn quad. VelvetKevorkian 23:03, 26 January 2007 (UTC)


 * You should read Wikipedia policy before telling us what our sources should be. Besides, common sense says that everyone will take a different amount of time to heal from injuries, so there is no such thing as common sense when it comes to predicting that. -- The Hyb rid  07:59, 27 January 2007 (UTC)

He'll probably be out until Summerslam. Anyway, he will probably became WWE Champion as soon as he comes back. But htis injury is both a blessing and a curse. The blessing part is that he can be with his daughter and wife. The curse is that he cannot do the job that he so much loves to do and cannot see his friends. I know what that feeling is like. Big Boss 0 03:49, 8 March 2007 (UTC)

Ya, SummerSlam sounds about right for an injury of the magnitude he suffered. He also stated he expects to return around SummerSlam in an interview with WWE.com.Killswitch Engage 05:16, 8 March 2007 (UTC)

I think we all can agree on this. Should we put it in the article? Big Boss 0 14:45, 8 March 2007 (UTC)

You shouldn't put it in the article because at this point everyone is speculating, even Triple H himself. Until a firm return date is announced by WWE (either by WWE.com or on it's programming) nothing about a return date should go into the article. B mg 9 1 6  Speak to Me 16:12, 8 March 2007 (UTC)

Who is messing around with his biography?
I am wondering, eho is messing around with Triple H's biography? For a minute, it was there and then I went to use the back button and then the foward button and it said Triple H sucks, and then all of a sudden, it's back on. Who is doing this?LindsieandLance 05:45, 9 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Vandals like to delete whole articles, but that sort of thing is quickly caught and fixed by other editors. --clpo13 05:52, 9 March 2007 (UTC)

Spinebuster
I am changing his "Rolling Spinebuster" to just spinebuster. It is not a rolling spinebuster as this would imply that he picks them up and does another spinebuster (i.e. Rolling Germans). I'm assuming it was named "rolling" because of the spin around action he does but that is how the original spinebuster was performed. Thanks. 222.153.6.21 05:57, 15 March 2007 (UTC)

Relationship with Stephanie
There should be a section detailing his relationship with Stephanie McMahon. When they started dating in relation to when he became champion should be included. Lengthy title reigns in relation to his marriage to the bosses daughter.
 * No, there shouldn't. A section like that would violate WP:OR, WP:NPOV, and potentially

WP:CITE. B mg 9 1 <font color="#000000" face="Arial Black">6 <font COLOR="navy"> Speak to Me 19:04, 22 March 2007 (UTC)


 * Actually, I'm surprised the article doesn't include a "Personal Life" section. Most celebrity articles have a section devoted to behind-the-scenes verifiable information about the person's personal life, such as who they're married to, how many kids they have, personal hobbies and interests and charity work. I would recommend, if possible, creating such a section for this article.  It would help readers differentiate the character of Triple-H from the actor Paul Levesque who plays him.  (And, of course, this is the section that would include a sentence that says he is married in real life to Stephanie McMahon).


 * That being said, I do agree that it would be irresponsible to create a section intended to speculate on the possibility that he got his title because he "married the boss' daughter". That's basically just gossip mongering. So mention his marraige but don't use unreferenced rumors about his love life or nepotism in the business, etc. Dugwiki 22:24, 4 April 2007 (UTC)


 * Along those lines a bit for the trivia section would be that Triple H was the victim of a practical joke at the hands of Stephanie McMahon on the television show Punk'd a while back. In it they set him up to make him think he accidentally broke a bride's nose while forcing open a door, after which the groom started picking a fight with him.  The only reason I mention the episode is that it's one of those rare instances of a television program breaking kayfabe and treating Stephanie and Triple H as a real-life married couple. For that alone the episode is probably worth a one sentence mention in the trivia section. You just need to find the appropriate episode number and air date for citation. Dugwiki 22:31, 4 April 2007 (UTC)


 * Personal life section added. I copied it out of an old version of this page. Add any material that you all think needs to be. Peace, -- <font color="Blue">The <font color="Red">Hyb <font color="Green">rid  22:59, 4 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Thanks Hybrid. I reformatted the section you added into paragraph form since the style guidelines normally recommends paragraphs over bullet point lists (information usually sounds a little more encyclopedic in paragraph form).  I also renamed the section "Beyond professional wrestling", since most of the information isn't really about his "personal life" per se, but is rather about his professional life outside of wrestling.  Finally, I added a tag requesting references for the section.  I'm sure all the information there is verifiable - it just needs to have the appropriate footnotes added to clean it up. Dugwiki 15:24, 5 April 2007 (UTC)

Incorporated the Trivia section into the main article
FYI I moved the individual bullet points in the Trivia section into the main article per recommendations in WP:TRIVIA (it's better to incorporate facts in the main article then to use a bullet point list for miscellany). I also removed the "trivia" that he is right-handed, since most people are and it wasn't clear why the fact he is right-handed is at all interesting to the reader (ie it's "not even trivia" to be right-handed). Dugwiki 15:34, 5 April 2007 (UTC)

Yes it is. It's part of his bio. info. Zerorules677 9:14, 05 April 2007 (UTC)
 * That sounds like circular reasoning to me. "It's in his bio because it's interesting. And the reason it's interesting is because it's in his bio." Why, exactly, is it interesting or worthwhile to note that he is right-handed? Dugwiki 17:20, 5 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Why is it important that John Cena is left-handed? Zerorules677 10:16, 09 April 2007
 * It's mentioned that John Cena is left-handed to illustrate the point that despite this, he still leads with his right hand when throwing punches. If it was just "He's left handed" it would be removed. <font color="#000000" face="Arial Black">Bmg <font color="#009900" face="Arial Black">916 <font COLOR="navy"> Speak<font COLOR="navy"> Sign 17:24, 9 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Well, I don't know if you've seen Triple H (before his injury) punch with his left-hand. Like I said before, that counts. Right? Zerorules677 6:36, 09 April 2007 (UTC)
 * If you can provide a verifiable reference that says that Triple H used to favor his left hand early in his career, but had to switch to punching with his right hand due to an injury, then I think that would be a legitimate piece of interesting trivia. You'll need a published source that mentions it though in order to include it in the article. Dugwiki 16:53, 10 April 2007 (UTC)

Dates for the managers?
I noticed that the Managers section of the article just lists the names of Triple H's managers, but doesn't give any historical context. I think it would improve that section if next to the person's name you indicated the years that person managed him (eg "1998-1999" or whatever). Dugwiki 22:02, 9 April 2007 (UTC)

retire
didnt it sound like he was retiring at the hall of fame ceremony any one else hear that???24.128.202.124 01:54, 24 April 2007 (UTC)

No not really. Zerorules677 10:10, 01 May 2007 )UTC)

DX?
Do we still want to speak as if DX is still together? It seems that they have removed most if not all references to DX in episopes, excluding the old DX chop occasionally, No entrance music, no 'X' pyro, ect. Sephiroth storm 03:48, 28 April 2007 (UTC)

HBK still shows the DX "X". And as we all saw last week, he's used the DX chop on Cena. Zerorules677 10:11, 01 May 2007 (UTC)

Accourding to impact wrestling DX is to be scraped upon the return of Triple H. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.39.249.56 (talk)

Luke Smith
The Luke Smith link under managers links to a fictional charachter unrelated to wrestling. I am unsure of who this is meant to link to, but I can't find a Luke Smith wrestling article.

Mr. XXX
Hey Thanks for the info Paris It's me your lover —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 83.31.208.225 (talk) 18:28, 12 May 2007 (UTC).

Hey
I pretty much added a signature tautn and thats it

Theme Song
Does anyone know what the theme song he used during his feud with Cena around WM 22?
 * The same one he's used for the last few years, "The Game". He started to come out to "King of Kings" (which he would soometimes use for the next few weeks for promos, although he continued using "The Game" for matches).

Edit request
Editprotected Could an admin (or other user when it becomes un-protected) add "Ode to Joy" to his theme songs? He used it in 1996/1997 when he was portraying that blueblood character (for an example, watch the 1997 Royal Rumble or 1997 King of the Ring). TJ Spyke 03:35, 31 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Add The Line in the Sand too. He used it when he was in the stable Evolution.
 * The article's been unprotected by User:MaxSem. --MZMcBride 20:19, 31 May 2007 (UTC)

Terra Ryzing
does anyone know if his character as Terra Ryzing was a big powerhouse guy because if you say it you can notice that it sounds like terrorizing? Urena198 01:25, 14 June 2007 (UTC)

Not to sound mean, but that is completely irrevelent and obvious. There are no such things as stupid people, just stupid questions.

Resides: New York City...?
Are you sure about this? I never saw any mention about the place where Tripe H lives, so... is this right?
 * Cheat2win 06:28, 3 July 2007 (UTC)
 * In the McMahon DVD he mentions that he lives in New Hampshire; but maybe that's his 2nd home. --  ThinkBlue  (Hit BLUE) 23:15, 03 July 2007 (UTC)

Old/New theme music
If anyone saw the latest raw promo on Triple H's return, the background music was a remixed version of his old theme tune used around 1999 not his usual motorhead "The Game" theme tune, anyone know if this will be his new tune permanently or just a one off?, to me it seems to be too much of a coincidence for a one-off because usually for a promo its just some tense orchastrated music Prem4eva 14:25, 3 July 2007 (UTC)

Don't think that his new theme, it was used in his return promo for the raw homecoming in 2005.

The song was fetured on disc 3 of the wwe anthology, it was called the game.

Retired?
I've heard that Triple H has retired. Is this true? Chicablog 01:08, 3 May 2007 (UTC)M
 * No. He "just" has been inactive while rehabilitating from a torn quadriceps muscle since.Cheat2win 03:42, 10 May 2007 (UTC)


 * No i think he is busy filming that Jornada del Muerte movie along with everybody else getting kayfabed injured. RealTNAFan 3:12, 6 June 2007 (UTC)


 * No, he's not filiming anything right how, it's hard to kayfabe a torn quadriceps surgery video and all the doctors commenting on it and the exact differences between this torn quad and the one he suffered years ago. His injury is not kayfabe. <font color="#000000" face="Arial Black">Bmg <font color="#009900" face="Arial Black">916 <font COLOR="navy"> Speak<font COLOR="navy"> Sign 20:32, 6 June 2007 (UTC)


 * Oh Thanks man i get it now RealTNAFan 6:06, 6 June 2007


 * Not a problem, let me know if you ever need anything else, Peace. <font color="#000000" face="Arial Black">Bmg <font color="#009900" face="Arial Black">916 <font COLOR="navy"> Speak<font COLOR="navy"> Sign 11:26, 7 June 2007 (UTC)

Missing Acting Stuff
Didn't he make 2 or 3 guest appearances on the old USA show 'Pacific Blue'? I know they were small roles, but I do believe he did have speaking lines. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Special:Contributions/ (talk)

2007 Return
Someone stated in the article "Currently, the plan as of now is to have Triple H come back to wrestling on the August 13 edition of Raw." Is their any proof of this? Wikipedia is not a crystal ball. So please do not post spoilers until they are officially announced on either Raw, SmackDown!, and ECW or WWE.com. Thank you. Overlordneo 19:25, 20 July 2007 (UTC)

This isnt like its wwe.com this is a encyclapiedia(im not good at spelling)so its all facts and its been taking off the page so i dont when hes comin back so ya is this true. David57437 —Preceding unsigned comment added by David57437 (talk • contribs)


 * It doesn't matter. We can't put information that isn't verifiable. If there's proof to back that up then it should be added. --  ThinkBlue  (Hit BLUE) 16:12, 24 July 2007 (UTC)

Ya true David57437

The WWE has confirmed that he is coming back on SummerSlam, but that might be to get people exicted about it, theres been talk that he might he come back as early as next Raw, at the Garden. 8:09, wednesday, August 8 2007 beatle456

HHH will return at summerslam to face King Booker, since he did NOT make his return at the August 13 edition of RAW. And, he is on the RAW Brand NOT on SD!. 76.110.82.251 02:35, 14 August 2007 (UTC)

every sayin smackdown
every1 is saying on the article tha he is goin 2 smackdown  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.156.132.67 (talk • contribs)  Well, every1 is wrong, and if they have anything 2 say then they should say it here, rather than on the article. Darrenhusted 00:09, 26 July 2007 (UTC)
 * I agree with Darrenhusted on that. --  ThinkBlue  (Hit BLUE) 00:48, 26 July 2007 (UTC)

me 2 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.156.145.31 (talk • contribs)
 * He's still part of the RAW roster. No changes have been made. --  ThinkBlue  (Hit BLUE) 23:57, 27 July 2007 (UTC)

HHH was traded to SD!, then traded back for four wrestlers, meaning he is four times better than other wrestlers on the roster. I don't think HHH will ever be part of the SD! roster. Darrenhusted 00:20, 28 July 2007 (UTC)

Return
On wwe.com at the bottom it says The return of the game:29 days and has the logo for Summerslam under it so I think this needs to be put into the 2007 part but it wont let me edit it.Bizub4 16:43, 28 July 2007 (UTC)
 * At the bottom of WWE.com it says he will return in 29 days check it out yourself. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.161.98.54 (talk • contribs)

When he returns then we will add it until then it is best leaving it off, as he may injure himself between now and SS. Darrenhusted 20:03, 28 July 2007 (UTC)

Well I think that because wwe.com says he will return that we should add it. Just look at Rey's page and they have posted many things about his return. So it's only fair to the public that we realesed the info since WWE has confirmed it.Bizub4 23:40, 28 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Cheers, I'm off to delete them. Oh, and PS this is not a news site. Darrenhusted 01:16, 29 July 2007 (UTC)

WWE has confirmed he is comin back at SUMMERSLAM so i think we should be able to put it on David57437
 * Once he has returned then the sentence "HHH returned at SummerSlam (2007)" will do, until then it's best to leave it blank. Darrenhusted 17:48, 1 August 2007 (UTC)
 * We know this isn't a news site, I don't see anything news about putting in the article that he'll return at SummerSlam. Why ya'll gotta think so negative like he's gonna "reinjure" himself. THINK POSITIVE!-- Ho rn et ma n16 (talk) 18:12, 3 August 2007 (UTC)
 * I think we should put it in. You're saying it's not a news site and we shouldn't post it because something could happen between now and SummerSlam, if that's the case then why do we list matches when they're announced. A match can alter before it happens also, what's the difference Mark handscombe 18:13, 4 August 2007 (UTC)

If you don't know why it has been taken off then I don't think you should put it back on. It is left off because the sentence "HHH will return at SummerSlam" or "It has been announced HHH will return at SummerSlam" is a news headline, and unencyclopedic, and this is an encyclopedia. The sentence "HHH retuned at SummerSlam 2007 after six months rehabbing a torn quad muscle" is encyclopedic and can go on the article in three weeks, just incase he doesn't return, or if they panic about ratings and he returns Monday. Darrenhusted 18:21, 4 August 2007 (UTC)
 * I completely understand what you are saying, Darrenhusted, but that does not address Mark handscombe's quite interesting and relevant comment above. From what I have seen in the past with this project, it has been all-but-policy to insert announced matches into pay-per-view articles long before the matches themselves actually occur (its not like the matches don't change all the time - WWE Punjabi Prison Match disaster anyone?). Maybe I'm missing something, (if so please explain - seriously),  but it seems like the project's policy on this type of thing should be one way or the other ..not "its ok for one type of wrestling article to make annoucements but not for another type."  I don't really care either way - but this is one thing that seems black and white to me. Again, if I'm missing something - please explain! Thanks :) --Naha|(talk) 21:24, 7 August 2007 (UTC)

It sounds like most of the ppl agree we should put HHH will return at summerslam so i think we should put it on okdokyDavid57437August,8 2007
 * That's not what they mean. --  ThinkBlue  (Hit BLUE) 22:52, 09 August 2007 (UTC)

I think that we should add his return to the article, but even if we don't it should at least warrant mention on the Summerslam 2007 article, as it has been announced by WWE. (Sawyer 20:27, 10 August 2007 (UTC))

Ok, well, since none has voiced an objection, I'm gonna go ahead and add it. (Sawyer 09:12, 13 August 2007 (UTC))

I dont think Darrenhusted or what ever his name is, is reading this discussion any further, since he doesn't know what to say about Naha's comment. But since he is the boss, i dont think we have a chance. We have done everything right - we were acting like the policy says, we did not spoiler anything since it was allready announced, we even have an official reference. but all this means nothing, when the boss says no. where is our democracy? Diivoo 17:04, 13 August 2007 (UTC)

Who removed his return from the article? Talk about it here first. We post booked matches on Superstars' articles all the time, and this is no different. (Sawyer 01:11, 15 August 2007 (UTC))

Triple H will return at SummerSlam, the match with him has been officially announced. Since we add the match to the summerslam page, we add this info to this page. Diivoo 09:04, 15 August 2007 (UTC)
 * We can't add matches that haven't yet occurred. --  ThinkBlue  (Hit BLUE) 00:11, 16 August 2007 (UTC)
 * So I think we should remove all the matches from the summerslam page as well, because they also didn't occur yet, do we? Diivoo 15:19, 16 August 2007 (UTC)
 * A PPV is way different from a wrestler's article. Because at the PPV page you get informed; at the article you read encyclopedic information. --  ThinkBlue  (Hit BLUE) 17:18, 16 August 2007 (UTC)
 * That is indeed one of the dumbest things i have ever heard. The return of a wrestler IS encyclopedic and by the way, why is it ok, that there is a note in Rey Mysterios article saying, that he will return at summerslam and here it is not ok? Diivoo 17:32, 16 August 2007 (UTC)

Clearly Diivoo you are familiar with the arguments, but also don't seem to understand what "encyclopedic" means. Anything in an article must be in past tense, the statement "HHH is set to return/expected to return at SummerSlam" is not in the past it is in the future, and thus cannot be encyclopedic, once he has returned then the sentence "HHH returned to wrestling at SummerSlam 2007 after seven months of rehabilitation" is fine because it is in the past.
 * Listing the match at the PPV page does not mean it is listed here becuase the PPV pages list announced matches until the PPV happens then they revert to encyclopedic articles and list what happened. PPV pages should stay blank until the PPV has happened but this leads to vandals adding false information and so the project decided by consensus to add matches to PPV pages but only after they have been announced officially.
 * There are lines in the sand and you would do best to try and stay within those lines as they have been put there with consensus and not by one person deciding what to do. PPV pages and wrestler bios work with slightly different rules, but once events have happened they work with the same rules.
 * And to argue that information is on Rey's page so we should add it here does not hold water, if you feel info on Rey's page should not be there then you should delete it, not try to add info here to make both articles incorrect. Darrenhusted 17:09, 17 August 2007 (UTC)

So Zerorules, u undid my edit... again... with that nice comment "removed return 'date' (event) AGAIN" - maybe just explain to me, where in the sentence "World Wrestling Entertainment started promoting the return of Triple H on July 2 Monday Night Raw episode." you can find any information on where and when he returns? And in my oppinion, because of the very huge amount of promotion done by wwe (wwe magazine, dozens of different video clips, big promotion on website, ...) this is an information, that should stay here. And if you undo my edit again, at least leave a comment that makes sense. Diivoo 20:40, 17 August 2007 (UTC)
 * You know, coming at me isn't going to do you a whole lot. If you read on top of this comment left by Darrenhusted you'll understand why we can't address his return in the article. F.Y.I. I'd sit and read it, for your sake's. And you know what, if I have to undo one of your edits, I'll leave a decent comment for your reading. --  ThinkBlue  (Hit BLUE) 23:28, 17 August 2007 (UTC)
 * In my oppinion, the info i added is not news. Its just an info that his return, whenever it happens, was very highly promoted. No comeback in the last few years had such a big amount of promotion, so whats wrong with adding that info to his page? Diivoo 10:07, 18 August 2007 (UTC)

Okay, so technically speaking we can do say, what the Chris Jericho page did, and add a section which is about TRIPLE H'S RETURN.

From (date) it has been strongly advertising the return of HHH to the WWE at Summerslam.

This has already happened, the advertising of his return. Therefore I'm going to go and put it on that way :) Encyclopedic ? yes... end of story. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Swiftstylez (talk • contribs).

allready did that, several times. it just doesn't matter what you say or do, it will all be undone. Diivoo 15:11, 21 August 2007 (UTC)

For the absolute last time, because this will be moot by Monday, we cannot add the return of any wrestler until they have returned, because the tense will always be future before a return, and articles are written in the past tense. If you do not understand this basic principal then you may want to edit something else. I am not the only editor reverting the "advert" or "return" text. Once HHH returns, and for the fiftieth time, then the sentence "Paul Micheal LeVesque retuned at the pay per view World Wrestling Entertainment event called SummerSlam and beat Booker Tio Huffman by pinfall after a pedigree" will do, until then you may want to ready about what wikipedia is not. Darrenhusted 14:14, 24 August 2007 (UTC)
 * and for the last time, we are not adressing the return of Triple H here. We just add an info about the big promotion done for his return, which IS encyclopedic, which IS written in the past and which IS NOT news. so i will, for the last time, ADD this info. Diivoo 13:39, 25 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Oh well, then the reason for removing that is simple, it's not notable. Darrenhusted 20:59, 25 August 2007 (UTC)
 * it is... at least until his return. Diivoo 22:40, 25 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Until SummerSlam, then we can add his RETURN. --  ThinkBlue  (Hit BLUE) 23:44, 26 August 2007 (UTC)

Summerslam is over, Triple H returned, humiliated Vince again, fought Carlito and Benjamin in the past two weeks, and he just won a handicap game against Carlito in UnforgivenHmsrenown 00:45, 18 September 2007 (UTC)

Pedigree question
Will anybody have a problem if I upload an image of Triple H about to Pedigree Chris Benoit? Since all the controversy occurred. And I don't want to make it seem that I'm a mean person!!! Just want some response!!! --  ThinkBlue  (Hit BLUE) 01:15, 07 July 2007 (UTC)

No it's no problem70.161.98.54

I'm sure there are better pedigree pictures - with or without benoit. Diivoo 19:54, 16 August 2007 (UTC)
 * If there freely licensed. --  ThinkBlue  (Hit BLUE) 19:46, 17 August 2007 (UTC)

Who the frimp is Migs?
"Despite the punishment, Migs did have several successes following the MSG Incident." Is that intentional? Volcabbage 23:54, 15 July 2007 (UTC)
 * That was vandalism. There is a user that always changes the names to "Miggy Pab" for some reason. I guess that one slipped through. - Deep   Shadow  00:22, 16 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Bwa ha, ha. That's too bad.  I'm going to call him "Migs" from now on, anyway.  Volcabbage 01:35, 18 July 2007 (UTC)

Article question
Does anybody think that the article is improving or.......... --  ThinkBlue  (Hit BLUE) 00:46, 31 July 2007 (UTC)
 * A little, I'll run through it tomorrow and prune out any crap. Darrenhusted 00:48, 31 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Alright. Because I support of being improved. --  ThinkBlue  (Hit BLUE) 01:41, 31 July 2007 (UTC)

Input to the GA Nomination
I’m not going to GA review it (I don't feel qualified) but I will give you guys a quick list of things I know you need to fix before it has a chance, I speak from experience here. And this isn’t an exhaustive list, just my first glance look at it, but it’s a start MPJ-DK 10:04, 18 August 2007 (UTC)

Thank you very much for the comments - they are much appreciated. Davnel03 11:37, 18 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Lead text is way too short, should have 3 to 4 paragraphs as according to Lead
 * ✅ Davnel03 11:37, 18 August 2007 (UTC)
 * His pre WWE days has an ”Needs expansion” tag and it definitly needs to be expanded to be GA.
 * Sorry, I have no idea of what to put here - I'll try and find something though! :) Davnel03 11:37, 18 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Only make links that are relevant to the context and Manual of Style (dates and numbers) state that months and days of the week generally should not be linked if they stand alone (”March” or ”Monday”). Standalone years, decades, or centuries can be linked but only if there is a context reason for it. (from AndyZ’s Automated review tool)
 * ✅ Davnel03 11:37, 18 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Per Wikipedia:Manual of Style (numbers), there should be a non-breaking space -  between a number and the unit of measurement. For example, instead of 10 feet, use 10 feet, which when you are editing the page, should look like: <tt>10&amp;nbsp;feet</tt>. (from AndyZ’s Automated review tool)
 * ✅ Davnel03 11:37, 18 August 2007 (UTC)
 * As per Wikipedia:Manual of Style (dates), dates shouldn't use th; for example, instead of using January 30th was a great day, use January 30 was a great day. It’s only acceptable to have ”th” in the text if it’s in the quote of a citation. (from AndyZ’s Automated review tool)
 * ✅ Davnel03 11:37, 18 August 2007 (UTC)
 * This article needs to use the summary style with appropriate are used, especially for Evolution and DX
 * ✅ Davnel03 11:37, 18 August 2007 (UTC)
 * As done in WP:FOOTNOTE, footnotes usually are located right after a punctuation mark (as recommended by the CMS, but not mandatory), such that there is no space in between. For example, the sun is larger than the moon [2]. is usually written as the sun is larger than the moon.[2](from AndyZ’s Automated review tool)
 * ✅ Davnel03 11:37, 18 August 2007 (UTC)

In The article, HHH's 1st Special move is classified as a Cutter, when it shall be called the "Diamond Cutter" as he called it in the 1990s —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Special:Contributions/ (talk)

Only Dallas Page used the "Diamond" Cutter, for everyone else it is a cutter. Darrenhusted 14:07, 24 August 2007 (UTC)

Another comment re improvement of article

 * Can a See also section be added which lists related internal (Wikipedia) articles in alphabetical order. For instance check out the What links here page.
 * Can any of the lists be converted to prose? Embedded list
 * According to guidelines on WikiProject Biography things are starting out very well.
 * Could the section titles be modified closer to the guidelines set at Template:Biography. for example eliminate the section heading Outside of Wrestling and convert the information/sections to the headings suggested at  Template:BiographySriMesh |  talk  02:57, 26 August 2007 (UTC)
 * ✅ --  ThinkBlue  (Hit BLUE) 01:18, 27 August 2007 (UTC)

About the signature moves
Indian Deathlock Neckbreaker slam Sleeper hold

Are you sure that those three should be listed as Triple H's signature moves? He hardly ever uses the Indian Deathlock, the Neckbreaker Slam is used by most wrestlers of his generation (he doesn't use that too often either, though) and the Sleeper Hold... Well, it is pretty much used by EVERY wrestler every now and then. I suggest all three are removed. TheCursed 21:31, 28 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Indian Deathlock he used, and pretty much the only one who utilized that in his generation! The other two I totally agree with you. Hmsrenown 00:47, 18 September 2007 (UTC)

"The Game"
Who had "The Game" first HHH or The Game (rapper)? I think HHH did, since 2000 (like it says in the article), so does that means The Game can no longer call himself "The Game"? 76.110.82.251 17:42, 8 September 2007 (UTC)

Triple H had "The Game" trademarked first and the wwe has been considering/entering legal action against the game (rapper), I don't know if its been settled though Prem4eva 17:02, 11 September 2007 (UTC)

Triple H has had it since late 1999. That idiot rapper "The Game" is never going to win the lawsuit, and he and/or his lawyer apparently didn't bother to do research regarding how long the WWF/WWE has had Triple H trademarked as "The Game". Motorhead even performed that song "The Game" in late 2000-ish. Even if "The Game" had been called that before 2002, judging by the wikipedia article, he was completely incapable of trademarking the name. AndarielHalo 01:42, 20 September 2007 (UTC)

I don't see why they can't both be called The Game. It's just a name. Why does the WWE have to be so greedy for money? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.180.75.74 (talk • contribs)

chris warren
i will change that --Boutitbenza 69 9 20:05, 8 September 2007 (UTC) did the song -my time =D —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.153.41.114 (talk • contribs)

Chris Benoit
I believe the photo of HHH predigring Chris Benoit should be removed. It is illegal to sell anything about Benoit show this picture should be remove with a more suitable picture. --203.164.117.186 08:19, 13 September 2007 (UTC)Thomas G


 * Firstly, it is not illegal to sell anything about Benoit. Secondly, nobody is selling anything here...it is merely a picture. Nikki311 13:31, 13 September 2007 (UTC)
 * Yes what Nikki said. WWE and other retailers stopped selling his merchandise because they no longer wanted to be associated with Benoit, not because it is "illegal." --Naha|(talk) 14:37, 13 September 2007 (UTC)

Might you have an image of the Pedigree to contribute to Wikipedia? Zenlax 12:21, 13 September 2007 (UTC)

What happened?
Why isn't the article protected? --  ThinkBlue  (Hit BLUE) 22:34, 14 September 2007 (UTC) At a guess the protect was for a specific amount of weeks, and that time is over. Darrenhusted 17:30, 16 September 2007 (UTC)

The page is still semi-protected, and has been since July. Why there isn't a notice on the page is beyond me. I'll add one now. <font color="Steel blue">The <font color="Maroon">Hyb <font color="Green">rid  20:44, 16 September 2007 (UTC)

Turn
So has he turned heel after Raw on sep 17th? Y2J RKO 17:30, 18 September 2007 (UTC)
 * It is too soon to tell. Saying he has would be pure speculation at this point. We should wait a couple of weeks before we add it to the article, so we can know for sure. Nikki311 23:34, 18 September 2007 (UTC)

He Didn't turn heel. JR Called him the "man who walks alone" He just didn't want help 244pupil6

You could easily tell that he wasn't pleased when Paul London and Brian Kendrick came to his aid. Zenlax 19:11, 21 September 2007 (UTC)

Good article nomination on hold
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 * 1. Well written?: PASS The article does meet all of the prose and Manual of Style criteria.
 * 2. Factually accurate?: HELD There's just a few things here that need to be fixed up for this article to pass. The first paragraph of World Championship Wrestling, the second paragraph of 2002-2003 in WWF/WWE, and all of Acting - Commercials is unreferenced. Drop me a line when this is all fixed up and I should be able to pass it.
 * 3. Broad in coverage?: PASS This article covers the subject in great detail.
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Please address these matters soon and then leave a note here showing how they have been resolved. After 48 hours the article should be reviewed again. If these issues are not addressed within 7 days, the article may be failed without further notice. Thank you for your work so far. — <font color="#0000DD">Pursey  <font color="#0000DD">Talk 08:19, 19 September 2007 (UTC)


 * I've sourced not only what you asked, but I found additional sources for some of the other information, as well. I hope this is sufficient. Nikki311 02:34, 21 September 2007 (UTC)
 * I've done a copy-edit and listed the article. Good work. In improving this article, you have improved Wikipedia. Thank you.  Lara  ❤  Love  02:11, 7 October 2007 (UTC)

No Mercy 07
Is he the first wrestler to compete in three championship games in one night? Or there's another before him, cause I really don't remember anyone done that before. No one called that a record yet, but I believe that's some sort of accomplishment. Hmsrenown 18:43, 8 October 2007 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Hmsrenown (talk • contribs) 18:37, 8 October 2007 (UTC)

Really? He lost the third match. I don't really see that as an accomplishment. <font face="Arial"> Speed CG  <font color="SlateGray">Talk 12:40, 8 October 2007 (UTC)


 * There's no accomplishment to speak of from what I see. He's certainly not the first guy to wrestle in multiple matches on one card. Personally, I'd consider Randy Savage wrestling four matches at WrestleMania IV, and winning all four, to win the then WWF Championship more of an accomplishment.Odin&#39;s Beard 22:53, 9 October 2007 (UTC)


 * True, he isnt the first man to have three or more matches (WrestleMania IV, like Odin said and 1998 Survivor Series I think) in one night but after looking, from what I can gather he is the first man to win, retain and lose the WWE Championship in seperate matches on the same night. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 220.235.114.168 (talk) 04:41, 12 October 2007 (UTC)

Marty Garner?
Hi all, still new at this so bear with me :)... any ideas about adding the incident with Marty Garner, either under early WWE info or possibly Trivia? If you're not familiar, Garner was a jobber who botched taking a Pedigree (on a televised episode of Superstars) and wound up with massive neck damage and eventually sued Vince and company over it. Footage is widely shown on Youtube under painful botch moments, often mistakenly identifying Garner as HBK. Seems like a memorable moment to me in the same vein as the MSG incident... Enigmatic2k3 (talk) 19:46, 5 December 2007 (UTC)

Welcome to Wikipedia. I think a sentence or two would be sufficient for this article, if there was a proper source (per WP:BLP). Most of that information is best under Marty Garner's article (if he has one), since it is mostly dealing with his injury and his lawsuit. Lastly, trivia sections are a no-no (per WP:Trivia). <font color="Teal">Nikki <font color="Salmon">311 23:56, 5 December 2007 (UTC)

Thanks... I find numerous references that Garner appeared later on an episode of the Montel Williams show discussing the incident, and apparently had some trouble due to using footage of the incident unauthorized by WWF. However I cannot seem to find an episode guide that lists the specific episode he appeared on to cite. Any ideas on how to support the entry? Enigmatic2k3 (talk) 21:14, 11 December 2007 (UTC)

Either check the shows official website, i would think htey'd have a record, or search in www.imdb.com Skitzo (talk) 21:51, 11 December 2007 (UTC)


 * You can't use IMDB.com as a source, though. It isn't considered reliable because anyone can edit it. <font color="Teal">Nikki <font color="Salmon">311 22:05, 11 December 2007 (UTC)
 * Didn't Garner pop up again years later and jobbed to MVP in his debute? Gavyn Sykes (talk) 22:39, 11 December 2007 (UTC)

Yes although it's a bit off topic here, but he also wrestled as 'Cham Pain' in the Hardy's OMEGA and other indies, and as Puck Dupp here in the Midsouth. He apparently doesn't have his own wiki page; I'd start one but I don't have enough source material for it. Enigmatic2k3 (talk) 03:44, 12 December 2007 (UTC)

LINK with info and vid - http://www.wrestlinggonewrong.com/video/tripleh_garner.html —Preceding unsigned comment added by 172.141.47.101 (talk) 17:29, 12 January 2008 (UTC)

Daughter
There appears to be a problem with the tags around the sentence mentioned his daughter in the Personal Life section - the line isn't being displayed and I can't correct it due to the semi-protected state of the page. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 198.103.134.222 (talk) 15:33, 12 December 2007 (UTC)

Fixed. Skitzo (talk) 18:52, 12 December 2007 (UTC)

Entrance Music
Which year did he have "the kings" Run DMC entrance music? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 172.142.4.156 (talk) 22:44, 17 December 2007 (UTC)

It was released around May of 2000 on the Aggression CD, that was when MTV started airing the video but I'm not sure how long they actually used it for entrance. I've seen Titantrons of it on Youtube but IIRC the rap themes didn't last long except for the Godfather.I love triple H. Enigmatic2k3 (talk) 04:10, 18 December 2007 (UTC)

I think we should un-bold "The Game" with King of Kings intro, because he only used at SS 07. If someone doesn't do it for a while I'll do it. L0W3R1D3R (talk) 02:27, 18 January 2008 (UTC)
 * Yeah, I removed that a while ago, but someone put it back. Done. Gavyn Sykes (talk) 04:20, 18 January 2008 (UTC)

Film
Under the film section it says that the new film he is going to be starring in is called Journey of Death. No its not. Its Journada de Muerte which is translated as Day of Death. Lee 23:40, 17 December 2007 (UTC)


 * Sorry to burst your bubble, but you're wrong, too. At least translation-wise. Jornada del Muerto is Spanish for "Journey of the Dead Man," not Day of Death. 72.171.0.140 (talk) 14:42, 16 January 2008 (UTC)


 * Actually, Jornada del Muerto DOES translate to "Day of the Dead", as I have a Google Translator widget on my Opera brower, and just translated it. <font color="#C0C0C0">Cra sh U  nderride  06:10, 13 April 2008 (UTC)

Royal Rumble 2008
Last night on RAW, Triple H was banned from appearing in the rumble after losing to Ric Flair. Should we add that? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Smackdownraw (talk • contribs) 17:12, 1 January 2008 (UTC)
 * No, I don't think it should be added. --  ThinkBlue  (Hit BLUE) 22:33, 1 January 2008 (UTC)

I think its something we should keep our eye on, as it can develop into major storyline development, but right now its week by week. He probably will qualify, and this is just a "man keeping him down" angle.LessThanClippers (talk) 23:22, 2 January 2008 (UTC)
 * Probably. Let's just keep watching Raw and see. --  ThinkBlue  (Hit BLUE) 16:09, 3 January 2008 (UTC)

Has nothing notable happened since No Mercy?
We're not adding anything new? Its been 4 months.SuperSonicTH (talk) 21:00, 28 January 2008 (UTC)
 * Its per WP:PW consensus, that nothing else has been added. Z enlax  T C S 21:08, 28 January 2008 (UTC)


 * There's nothing about his fueds with Umaga and Snitsky. And what about 2008? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.67.40.27 (talk) 21:09, 29 January 2008 (UTC)
 * Those feuds contribute nothing to his overall career, and will not garner more than a passing mention years from now, so they are not notable. Gavyn Sykes (talk) 21:56, 29 January 2008 (UTC)
 * All the rumors going about right now is that he's set to win the Elimination Chamber match at No Way Out and, last I heard, was to win the WWE Championship at WrestleMania. These are just rumors of course, but if that's how it plays it, it'll be really the only two things of note to happen for the next few months.Odin&#39;s Beard (talk) 23:58, 29 January 2008 (UTC)


 * WTF, and his feud with Umaga, the Street Fight, the match with Jeff at Armageddon, the Runner-up of the Royal Rumble. That's stupid --KingOfDX (talk) 04:10, 1 February 2008 (UTC)
 * It goes by WP:PW's consensus. Z enlax  T C S 21:22, 4 February 2008 (UTC)
 * What I think some people arn't undertanding is that this sight is not to report on his day to day developments, it is encyclopedic, and needs to mention notable events that shape the topic of discussion. Yes his match with Jeff at No mercy was an amazing match, but it really means little to the grand scheme.  As far as rumors, etc, no need to mention them at all, they are just rumors.LessThanClippers (talk) 21:52, 4 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Exactly, feuds like Umaga and Snitsky are not relevant to his career. --  ThinkBlue  (Hit BLUE) 01:40, 5 February 2008 (UTC)
 * The only Notable thing so far, is the win he got at No Way Out (Which was added already), thats practicably it, and if wins the belt at Wrestlemania, that could be notable as well.  N i  m i  T  i <font color:"blue">z <font color:"light red">e 21:58, 19 February 2008 (UTC)
 * You said it. <font color="#900020">Sexy Sea <font color="Silver">Shark  17:52, 20 February 2008 (UTC)

The Pedigree
Wasnt the original a doulble under hook jumping piledriver.I think we should add that. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Redsand182 (talk • contribs) 02:14, 30 January 2008 (UTC)
 * See here. --  ThinkBlue  (Hit BLUE) 02:06, 31 January 2008 (UTC)

No I'm talking about the original pedigree. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Redsand182 (talk • contribs) 00:06, 1 February 2008 (UTC)
 * There's an original? --  ThinkBlue  (Hit BLUE) 00:16, 1 February 2008 (UTC)

Yeah,the original when he first debuted it was a pedigree but he tips their head down when he jumps forming a piledriver.He stopped using after like a year or a month because of its hazrds. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Redsand182 (talk • contribs) 05:21, 2 February 2008 (UTC)
 * If this is true, don't forget to Verify with a source. --  ThinkBlue  (Hit BLUE) 01:42, 5 February 2008 (UTC)


 * Yeah thats true, I have a clip on my laptop, where he pedigrees Marty Garner and his head tips a fair bit down, I think they realized, it would be to hard for him to control how far down their head went, I mean wrestlers find it hard enough to do nromally let alone in the air. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Masterofdestiny (talk •

I had a good laugh.SimonKSK (talk) 22:31, 27 April 2008 (UTC)

Just to add my two cents: I remember seeing that, and how freaked out everyone was. I'd say if anything it was a botch, and this is based solely on the fact that I've never seen him do it other than that one time. 67.142.130.34 (talk) 11:52, 6 February 2008 (UTC)

Brother in law passed away
Should it be noted that his brother-in-law Gordon Ouellette, passed away on Monday 4th of Febuary, possibly also the reason why he wasnt present at that nights Raw. I saw the obituary somewhere, I'll put a source when I find it, but it definatly says, survived by his wife, Lynn (Levesque) and son Peter and daughter Neysa. Masterofdestiny (talk) 12:37, 7 February 2008 (UTC)

They acually said he wasnt there on Raw do to a family emergancy but the fact that his brother in law passed away has nothing to do with Triple H. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.61.212.34 (talk) 19:16, 8 February 2008 (UTC)
 * What a stupid thing to say. Of course it has everything to do with Triple H. His brother died. It is when Triple H was so emotionally affected by something in his family he had to miss a show.

Backstage Politics?
Come on, we all know Haitch has been known to bury guys. It's speculated all over the wrestling fanbase. I think it's worthy that we note at least somethinga bout it.
 * reliable source? ♥ Nici ♥ Vampire ♥ Heart ♥ 23:18, 1 May 2008 (UTC)

Not really. Just because it's speculated doesn't mean it belongs in the article. --PepsiPlunge13 —Preceding unsigned comment added by PepsiPlunge13 (talk • contribs) 17:02, 4 May 2008 (UTC)