Talk:Triple H/Archive 3

2nd Child
Is this true that he and stephanie are expecting a 2nd child or is it just hear say. i cant find a reliable source but i also dont know exactly where to look. if this is true i feel it should be mentioned.Black6989 (talk) 03:52, 13 February 2008 (UTC)Black6989
 * No reliable source has been found. Gavyn Sykes (talk) 04:44, 13 February 2008 (UTC)
 * WWE.com just announced that Stephanie is pregnant. --  ThinkBlue  (Hit BLUE) 04:54, 14 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Yes but WWE.com is not a reliable source. They also said Vince McMahon was dead at one point. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 138.251.229.70 (talk) 03:19, 13 March 2008 (UTC)
 * It's pretty damn easy to sort out what's real and what's kayfabe on WWE.com. It's not all one or the other, but it's MOSTLY kayfabe. Triple having a child is NOT part of storyline, so what reason would have the have to say it if it isn't true. Gavyn Sykes (talk) 03:26, 13 March 2008 (UTC)

12 Time Champion
Im probably wrong but after his reign in 2007 isnt he now a 12 time champion. for some reason i have the sound of JR stating before this that he was an 11 time champion so now he'd be a 12 time. no? Black6989 (talk) 03:57, 18 February 2008 (UTC)Black6989
 * Unless he wins at Wrestlemaina 24, then he's still a 11 Time King.  N i m i  T i  z e 04:08, 18 February 2008 (UTC)

Next to where it says World Heavyweight Champion why does it not say (first) he was the first one —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.214.126.78 (talk) 14:28, 17 March 2008 (UTC)
 * It's noted in the article, as well as the article of the championship itself, under lineage.  Hazardous   Matt   14:41, 17 March 2008 (UTC)

I dont see how you dont call Triple H a 12 time champion. After He won the fatal 4 elimination match at Backlash 2008 including John Cena,Randy Orton, and JBL wwe.com had on the home page "12 times the King" with him holding the WWE Spinner Belt. Even When he was on the turn buckle he put on one finger at a time till you counted 12.Jonathanmbarnes (talk) 04:55, 15 May 2008 (UTC)
 * This is a direct copy and paste from Triple H's profile on wwe.com
 * On April 27, 2008 at Backlash, Triple H defeated Randy Orton, JBL and John Cena in a Fatal Four Way Elimination Match. The Game last eliminated Orton to become a 12-time championJonathanmbarnes (talk) 04:55, 15 May 2008 (UTC)

What the hell?
The In wrestling section and the championships section has been shrunk and put below the refs. I'm not gonna mess with it, I'd probably screw it up even worse. Gavyn Sykes (talk) 04:59, 18 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Fixed back to the way it was, It was my bad, i forgot to put the at the end of the cite web.  N i m i  T i  z e 05:10, 18 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Ah, ok then. :) Gavyn Sykes (talk) 05:11, 18 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Oh and thank you for correcting my grammer, ;).  N i m i  T i  z e 05:12, 18 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Sure, it happens. Gavyn Sykes (talk) 05:18, 18 February 2008 (UTC)

Cutter?
Under Triple H's signature moves list, listed is the Cutter... I don't think this is a signature move of his in the very least, especially if it refers to the same cutter that Diamond Dallas Page and Randy Orton use.--76.104.252.229 (talk) 21:02, 27 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Good catch, you're right. I've removed it. The link was all wrong anyway. Gavyn Sykes (talk) 21:55, 27 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Figured as much. I'm on the prowl for such things right now...--ProtoWolf (talk) 22:02, 27 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Triple H used a cutter as his finish for the first several weeks of his WWE career before adopting The Pedigree. I think that it counts as a finisher.Killswitch Engage (talk) 05:50, 28 March 2008 (UTC)

Triple h is a 12 time world champ, he won the wwe championship at no mercy, lat year then lost it that night to randy orton in a last man standing match, after defending once that night against umaga —Preceding unsigned comment added by Hornec2292 (talk • contribs) 05:07, 1 April 2008 (UTC)
 * No, he's an eleven time champion. Six time WWE Champion, 5 time WHC. Check WWE.com's title history for proof. Gavyn Sykes (talk) 14:02, 1 April 2008 (UTC)
 * As a singles wrestler, Triple H has won 11 "world" titles. The singles world championships are what he refers to during interviews and the commentators refer to during matches and run ins and whatnot. Depending upon how you look at it, he's already a 12 time "world" champion if you count his tag title reign with Stone Cold Steve Austin.Odin&#39;s Beard (talk) 21:59, 1 April 2008 (UTC)

The Game
One of his ring names is also The Game. THe Titantron shows The Game and his entry song is The Game. So I think it should be added to his ring names. Zaheer12a (talk) 20:51, 7 April 2008 (UTC)
 * No. He is never announced to the ring as "The Game." He is announced as "The Game, Triple H" or just "Triple H." The Game is a nickname, not a ring name. It's not part of the ring name either. Nicknames have a section later in the "In wrestling" section. Gavyn Sykes (talk) 20:59, 7 April 2008 (UTC)
 * He is mostly announced as "Triple H." The gen-X (talk) 16:01, 22 June 2008 (UTC)

Black Magic acusation
I think we should atleast consider a mention of this article. "Triple H's Nazi Black Magic" by Alex Shane, Fight Sprit Magazine (FSM) Issue 26. The link is to PART of the full article. It talks about how Triple H being in his position, uses modern day black magic to get people to watch and buy WWE.

The part of the article explains what modern day black magic actually is. It explains that it's not what most people consider when they hear it. How it's not devil magic, how it's what Hitler used to brainwash the German populace.

It explains: "'Most people associate black magic with witches, cauldrons, black cats and broomsticks, but that’s a huge misconception. Black magic in it’s modern form is simply using mantras, sigils, colours, sounds and symbols to bombard your subconscious mind in a way that makes you act against your own will. If you know how to do this, it is simple.'"

I found what I read online to be very interesting, and am looking forward to hopefully reading the full article soon. I just think it's an interesting note that people might want to consider putting into the article somewhere. Even, a small mention.  Cra sh U  nderride  04:11, 13 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Well, for one, where's the proof? This thing reads like something out of an issue of Weekly World News or the blog of some conspiracy theorist, with about as much validity. The tarot card thing is really stretching things. Aside from the fact that it's this guy's personal opinion, with no proof of what he's saying whatsoever, putting this in the article could potentially result in Wikipedia being held liable. After all, Triple H is being compared to Adolf Hitler to some degree.Odin&#39;s Beard (talk) 23:33, 14 April 2008 (UTC)
 * My bigger concern is this. While FSM might be a great source for info about matches, wrestlers, technical holds, etc, is the author of this article a reliable source in linguistics, seriously?    Less  Than  Clippers   00:06, 15 April 2008 (UTC)

DVD listings?
Is it really necessary to have a listing of all Triple H's DVDs? The wording seems a tad promotional, and it doesn't add any notable information to the article. I could understand using them as sources, but I don't really feel that it's necessary to have them included in the artcle. Agree? Disagree?  Hazardous   Matt   13:23, 16 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Disagree. I think that it is notable to include, as it shows they he appears on more than just Raw/SmackDown/PPVs/etc, and I've reworded it slightly to make it less promotional. ♥ Nici ♥ Vampire ♥ Heart ♥ 16:47, 16 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Actually, I was referring to this revision but it looks like someone's already cleaned it up.  Hazardous   Matt   16:53, 16 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Alright then, it looks like problem solved. ;) ♥ Nici ♥ Vampire ♥ Heart ♥ 16:52, 16 April 2008 (UTC)

Punt
Is the punt necessary to be included in the "King of Kings" section? Z enlax T C S 19:30, 21 April 2008 (UTC)
 * I'd have to say no, simply because the punt had nothing to do with how Cena got down for the pin. – L A  X  19:37, 21 April 2008 (UTC)


 * I think it would be a better fit in Orton's article. This article could simply state "...Orton pinned Cena to retain the WWE Championship."  Hazardous   Matt   19:38, 21 April 2008 (UTC)
 * That was my feeling on it; I was, however, going to re-word it, but I did not want to enter an edit war. Does anybody agree that it should be worded properly? Z enlax  T C S 20:21, 21 April 2008 (UTC)

It should be putted taht he has the record of most World Heayweight Championships and most WWE championships (with The Rock) and it's not a bad idea to put that he was the first world heavyweight champion, other articles have got it with other championships. Thanks —Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.35.138.65 (talk) 03:51, 28 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Is Triple H's win relevant to what's stated in the "King of Kings" section? Z enlax  T C S 18:46, 28 April 2008 (UTC)

Crossface
Triple H seems to be using this move regularly, it was even used last night as a finish. should it be added to the signature moves section? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.134.100.169 (talk) 18:16, 29 April 2008 (UTC)
 * I've only heard of him using it at Backlash and last night's Raw. I say give it another occurrance or two.  Hazardous   Matt   18:18, 29 April 2008 (UTC)

I saw Triple H use the crossface last week on cena during the 8 man tag mach, so doesent that make it his sub move —Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.97.218.21 (talk) 19:25, 29 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Not relevant if every "new" moves comes to light. Z enlax  T C S 19:32, 29 April 2008 (UTC)

actually i think its a silent tribute to chris benoit. if you go back and watch backlash, someone did a crossface in almost every match, i noticed this and thought it was interesting. Darcphoenix2 (talk) 04:41, 5 May 2008 (UTC)

I think Shawn Michaels and Triple H have the Crippler Crossface as regular move. --KingOfDX (talk) 21:15, 5 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Its not a known move, just an occasional one. Z enlax  T C S 18:43, 6 May 2008 (UTC)


 * Triple H is known for Pedigree. He doesn't use the Crippler Crossface as regular move. The gen-X (talk) 15:59, 22 June 2008 (UTC)

He has been including it in his moveset more and more often, usually in his longer matches on PPV. It was used again at Night of Champions. --Maestro25 (talk) 20:31, 30 June 2008 (UTC)


 * Well, can we add it like in Shawn Michaels?. --KingOfDX (talk) 06:24, 26 July 2008 (UTC)

king of kings return
put more informaition you missed out survivour series,cyber sunday and judgement day. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.96.137.3 (talk) 13:38, 24 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Uh, not notable, not notable, and not notable. –Cheers, L  A  X  13:49, 24 May 2008 (UTC)

Order of finishers. Can apply to any wrestler, not just HHH.
Now I remember a long time ago, when the finisher/signature move lists were in order of importance, when a wrestler's most known finisher, one he used every week and has built his movelist and gimmick around, was at the top of the list. Someone who was looking for someone's most famous move need only glance at the top of the movelist to get convenient information. But of course, this is Wikipedia, so the convenient information was ushered out in favor of strict rules that some guy who no one has actually met made up in the "interest of formality," not realizing that this is the internet, and away from it boasts a magical world full of nature and emotion and water that falls from the skies, where people actually live who only need quick information, not something that has been lost in a sea of regulations, like so much chemical waste jettisonned out to avoid proper disposal fees. I speak for the common man, one who believes in order by importance. Please, bring some clarity to the maelstrom that is this wireless universe!

And don't give me some stock cut-and-paste response or so help me...

Donco (talk) 05:14, 25 June 2008 (UTC)
 * OK, rather than go off on some eloquent yet melodramatic and greatly over-the-top tangent about the nature of Wikipedia, rules/regulations, and the like, how about just asking us to explain it or change it point-blank. Anyways, I agree, this order for move sets is completely absurd. Present-to-past is certainly more logical than alphabetical order, as it puts a greater emphasis on th changing nature of the move set, as well as being just plain more efficient, as you pointed out. I shall now change it. Cheers,  The Hybrid   08:19, 25 June 2008 (UTC)


 * Hmm, there are invisible notes saying not to change it per WP:MOS. Would someone care to show me which part of the MOS this is from? If it is somewhat questionable whether or not it applies, I'm ignoring it in favor of common sense.  The Hybrid   08:22, 25 June 2008 (UTC)

WT:PW has the discussion, MOS is for alphabetical. Darrenhusted (talk) 08:27, 25 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Ah, I found it, it cited WP:LISTS. It only mentions alphabetical order as a simple possibility; it still allows for alternate forms of organization. It even mentions use as an alternate possibility in the section. I would prefer this, but it looks like all of the articles have already been rewritten. I am too lazy to go through and change them, or to try to garner a consensus :P. I'll just leave it. If someone else wants to propose it, though, that's fine. Cheers,  The Hybrid   08:35, 25 June 2008 (UTC)
 * It was I who changed most of the articles to comply with the above. If anyone would like to suggest an alternate way of sorting them that makes sense and complies with the above MoS link, I will gladly go back and fix them again. If you have an alternate way, feel free to bring it up at WT:PW. In addition, the current way they are listed is very clear when each finisher was used. I don't believe not having Pedigree first makes the article look any worse, it simply requires slightly more reading. Also, wouldn't listed by order of importance conflict with WP:OR and WP:NPOV? In the interest of consensus, I shall stop reorganizing lists until a new consensus on the matter is reached. Regards, Gavyn Sykes (talk) 12:47, 25 June 2008 (UTC)

WWE Title
where does it say that the wwe title will become smackdown exclusive? john cena is going to win that title @ NOC because he is the superstar that represents the company. the face of the wwe should have the wwe championship, not the world heavyweight championship. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Princesslucky105 (talk • contribs) 03:02, 28 June 2008 (UTC)


 * WWE.com's SmackDown superstars section listed the WWE Championship as a SmackDown Exclusive title. The fact that you say Cena will win the WWE title at NOC is original research. -- Unquestionable Truth -- 03:07, 28 June 2008 (UTC)


 * no, it lists triple h who just so happens to be wwe champion as a smackdown superstar. the rest is your own speculation and is neither proven nor relevant.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.85.139.197 (talk) 20:55, 29 June 2008 (UTC)

Backstage Politics
What about Triple H's backstage politics?? that son of a bitch has ruined a lot of careers, fuck him. Regards, The Onslaught —Preceding unsigned comment added by 190.4.9.18 (talk • contribs)
 * The problem is that the no reliable source can be found for such claims and inserting such info into the article without one would be a violation of WP:BLP, WP:V, WP:OR and WP:LIBEL. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Gavyn Sykes (talk • contribs)

Some moves
I think that the Sleeper and the Arm trap crossface must be in the "moveset". Since his 2008 return, HHH has used the crossface nearly at every PPV... and the Sleeper was a near-finisher when he was the world champion years ago. --KingOfDX (talk) 06:26, 26 July 2008 (UTC)

can sumone post on the page that triple h and stephanie had another baby girl Murphy Claire Levesque today?
 * Source? --  ThinkBlue  (Hit BLUE) 02:28, 29 July 2008 (UTC)

Baby #2
Steph gave birth on July 28 to Murphy Claire Levesque. I didn't get a website, but I know there's a ton.

French-American?
Wouldn't that mean he was born in France?Wouldn't it be better to say he is of French origin?(MgTurtle (talk) 01:25, 30 July 2008 (UTC))

Cite reference number 74 (Hardy masters the Game) is not relevant to the sentence to which it corresponses (In the Raw Elimination Chamber at No Way Out, Triple H gained a WWE Championship match at WrestleMania XXIV, by outlasting five other men.)Shortman81 (talk) 12:03, 3 August 2008 (UTC)
 * ✅ Thanks. Gavyn Sykes (talk) 16:07, 3 August 2008 (UTC)

Criticisms
Shoudn't we mention criticisms, because some fans hate him and calling him a backstage whore for being in the main event so long, being repetitive, and winning too much like when he beat Jeff Hardy in the Elimination chamber because it made jeff less over with the marks. I know that's partially in Stephanie Mcmhaon's criticisms, but should that be noted here too and with more detail. --Wikistonecolddragon (talk) 23:26, 4 August 2008 (UTC)
 * The problem is that no reliable source can really be found for such claims. Adding a section like that without a one would constitute libel. Gavyn Sykes (talk) 00:28, 5 August 2008 (UTC)

WEDDING HELLO
The turning point in HHH career was when he interrupted Test and Stephanie's wedding to show the video of a sedated Stephanie and him going through a drive thru chapel. How the hell is this not mentioned this is how Triple H became Triple H? This is what jumpstarted his career. It is the most memorable thing not as a member of dx to that point. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.53.38.77 (talk) 05:56, 10 August 2008 (UTC)
 * IP editor: So what you're asking is, should the article include information about the angle where Triple H accellerated his feud with Vince McMahon by "marrying" a sedated Stephanie? Briguy52748 (talk) 13:09, 28 August 2008 (UTC)]]

DDT
Should we add DDT? He often uses this move. 88.182.128.95 (talk) 18:42, 28 August 2008 (UTC)
 * No, this has been discussed and stated that almost everyone uses this move. --  ThinkBlue  (Hit BLUE) 20:19, 28 August 2008 (UTC)
 * OK 88.182.128.95 (talk) 15:26, 30 August 2008 (UTC)

Triple H's World Championships
According to JR at Unforgiven, Triple H's win now makes him a 13 time World Champion. But since he never officially lost the title (since everyone else's reigns in the match don't count) is he still a 12 time champion, or 13? According to WWE.com's title history, he's still in the same reign, so it may just be a mistake on Ross' part. Then again, they may not have updated it. I just assumed he's still a 12 time champ though.Taker04 (talk) 22:48, 9 September 2008 (UTC)
 * JR makes frequent mistakes, so it is best to just wait and see how WWE lists it. Nikki  311  23:36, 9 September 2008 (UTC)

It was a mistake because JR said so in his blog plus if that was right it would make him a 15 time world champion becuse he won the title 3 times during the scramble —Preceding unsigned comment added by Mvpisthebest (talk • contribs) 17:43, 14 September 2008 (UTC)

Edit To Move To Smackdown: 2008-Present
Why don't we have that he will be participating in the Royal Rumble 2009? Also, he's now feuded with Smackdown GM Vickie Guerrero,and also publicly showed nude pictures of her on Smackdown. You we could also maybe state that he interfered with the Big Show vs. MVP match, etc. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Tttt1872 (talk • contribs) 22:42, 18 January 2009 (UTC)


 * It's all non-notable and week by week info.  Simon  \\  KSK  Yes we can! 22:45, 18 January 2009 (UTC)

Incomplete?
Where are his feuds of 2008 with Cena, Edge, MVP, Khali, Benjamin, Hardy and Kozlov? Feed back  ☎ 11:56, 12 October 2008 (UTC)

I think to these people, what you said was either completely not notable at all for Triple H's overall career or maybe that they are so busy that they have no time to edit the page. 121.120.95.81 (talk) 16:09, 14 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Not really notable to his overall career, most of them at least. His match with Cena should be in, as should his rention in the scramble match. Hardy and Kozlov should be added when the feud concludes. Gavyn Sykes (talk) 19:46, 14 October 2008 (UTC)

There should be some kind of update because the last one was at the draft. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.1.145.98 (talk) 15:12, 18 October 2008 (UTC)

Move to Smackdown (2008-present)
Since his move to Smackdown! Triple H has defeated Jeff Hardy, The Great Khali, Edge, The Big Show, MVP and may other superstars all to retain the WWE Championship.
 * If we add every time he defeated someone to retain the title, the article would be 27x as long. We should only add defenses when they are a part of a major storyline, are unique in some way, or if he loses the title. Nikki  ♥  311  20:40, 19 November 2008 (UTC)
 * For example, if Triple H were to lose the belt to either Hardy or Koslov at Survivor Series, the feud would be notable to add in, so the information about the title defenses against that person could also be added in as an explanation of the feud. Nikki  ♥  311  20:43, 19 November 2008 (UTC)

Move to Smackdown! (2008-present) 2
Since his move to Smaackdown! Triple H has been victorious at The Great American Bash,Summerslam, Unforgiven, No Mercy and Cyber Sunday retaining the WWE Championship. In late 2008, he entered a feud with Jeff Hardy & Vladamir Kozlov both gunning to the WWE title. --LukasVandelanotte (talk) 21:50, 19 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Did you even read my reply to your above post? Nikki  ♥  311  00:38, 20 November 2008 (UTC)

Move To Smackdown (2008-present) 3
Shouldn't we mention that Edge came in half-way through the match which is why he lost? Here's a simple edit:

Triple H ultimately lost his title to Edge, who came out when his wife, Vikki Guerrero announced that he returned to the WWE. Jeff Hardy then came out and knocked Triple H, and Vladimir Kozlov out with a steel chair. When trying to swing at Edge, he was speared and Edge covered Triple H for the win. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Tttt1872 (talk • contribs) 18:54, 26 November 2008 (UTC)
 * No, there only needs to have a summary of what happened, not a replay. --  ThinkBlue  (Hit BLUE) 19:39, 26 November 2008 (UTC)
 * And to summarise the match would be to include that it began as a singles match and became a triple threat. Not all that detail but that Edge was there for only a minute and that he was hit with a chair are notable factors. Tony2Times (talk) 02:30, 30 March 2009 (UTC)

New section required?
certainly some sort of "Criticisms" section is required in the article? Few people in Professional Wrestling history have been despised for their backstage abuses of power. As I type this Mr Levesque has just "won" his 13th World Heavyweight Championship! That's 11 more than Bruno Sammartino! That seems unlikely unless he were the target of much criticism(some deserved, some perhaps not so). 41.245.179.185 (talk) 08:33, 16 February 2009 (UTC)
 * That's a crass comparison to make. Everyone's home boy The Rock won nine world titles in three years on the world title scene, seven times more than Sammartino. It's a different era for world titles. Not that the criticism isn't out there, but it would be better to compare him to someone who has been on the world title leagues for as long as him, who is roughly the same age as him and most importantly in the same era as him. And of course find some reliable sources. Tony2Times (talk) 02:40, 30 March 2009 (UTC)

Nephews and nieces names?
Is it really necessary to name all his nephews and neices in the personal life section? I don't think so, I think we should err on the side of giving them their privacy. However, maybe I'm missing some reason to include them, so please discuss it here if you disagree with me. Raven1977 Talk to me My edits 16:47, 25 March 2009 (UTC)
 * I'd say leave the names out unless the nephew or niece meets the general notability and biography criterias. Briguy52748 (talk) 16:52, 25 March 2009 (UTC)]]

The third generation of McMahons have been announced on WWE TV, and used in promos by the parents. It is also normal to mention the names of children in bios. Darrenhusted (talk) 16:54, 25 March 2009 (UTC)
 * In addition, random example here are the names of Eddie and Vickie Guerreros children. Darrenhusted (talk)


 * Just a further comment regarding my opinion, I knew I had seen it stated earlier in the WP:BLP policy, but it took me a while to find it. It's here: BLP. See this quote in particular: "Take particular care when considering whether inclusion of the names of private, living individuals who are not directly involved in an article's topic adds significant value. The presumption in favor of the privacy of family members of articles' subjects and other loosely involved persons without independent notability is correspondingly stronger."


 * The names I have issue with are not Levesque's children, these are nephews and nieces. They are not celebrities, their names are not vital to knowing who Levesque is. If you wish to state it such that "Levesque also has several neices and nephews." that would be acceptable to me as a compromise. I just strongly feel we should err on the side of privacy of names of non-celebrities, even if other news media doesn't do so. Especially in the case of Lynn's kids, she's not a celebrity herself, so I think her kids' names definitely should be kept out. I can see some leeway with Shane's kids, but I still feel that the names are not necessary in this article. They would be more acceptable in Shane's article, as they're actually his kids. Raven1977 Talk to me My edits 17:21, 25 March 2009 (UTC)

(Unindent) Also, can we agree to leave the names out until this discussion is finished, rather than edit warring? Let's wait 24 hours or so and see where consensus lies. If necessary we can go to WP:3O to get further input from uninvolved editors. Raven1977 Talk to me My edits Except that consensus has been to keep the names, you need consensus to remove them, and they are mentioned on every McMahon page, not just HHH. Darrenhusted (talk) 17:33, 25 March 2009 (UTC)


 * Two additional points. Darrenhusted states at my talk page that consensus is to leave the names in. I disagree; consensus at this discussion so far is two to keep the children's names out (myself and User:Briguy52748) and one to keep the names in, that being Darrenhusted. Furthermore, to Darrenhusted, you're talking about sons and daughters, I'm talking about nephews and nieces. These are two different things. I have no objection to Shane's children being mentioned on Shane's page. I object to distant relations (being nephews and nieces) being named on this page. Please show me where other articles have people's nephews and nieces listed on their page, because that would be a better argument against my stance here, in my opinion. Raven1977 Talk to me My edits  17:42, 25 March 2009 (UTC)


 * FYI, I have linked this at WP:3O, so hopefully we can get an uninvolved editor's opinion on the matter. If that doesn't work, I'll link it at WP:RFC, as I think there needs to be a consensus of more than 2 or 3 on this. Raven1977 Talk to me My edits  18:03, 25 March 2009 (UTC)
 * The fact that the date of birth has been there since the day they were born, and is referenced by WWE itself, means that the consensus has been to keep them. Darrenhusted (talk) 21:56, 25 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Go back and reread what I wrote above please; you keep mentioning his daughters but I'm not even discussing them. My question is regarding whether his nieces and nephews names need to be mentioned, not his children. Raven1977 Talk to me My edits  17:00, 27 March 2009 (UTC)

I have to agree with Raven on this one. Children's names should be included, but I see no reason to include neices and nephews. Thanks,  Genius  101 Guestbook  22:26, 25 March 2009 (UTC)
 * I would like to point out that Shane McMahon appeared with his son Deacon in the opening promo of WrestleMania XX. The theme was "Where it all beings... Again". So The PPV opened with Vince, Shane, and Shane's newborn son Deacon (who presumably will eventually run the company in several decades), so privacy is not an issue here. We mention family members in other articles (like Honky Tonk Man's page mentions that he is Jerry Lawler's cousin). Eddie Guerrero's page mentions his nephew Chavo Jr. (in fact, most of the Guerrero articles mention them all). Bret Hart's page mentions two of his nephews (Teddy Hart and Harry Smith) and niece (Natayla). There may be others, but those are off the top of my head.  TJ   Spyke   22:33, 25 March 2009 (UTC)

Came from Third opinion page: What's the usefulness of keeping the names of the extended relatives? Seems like a bad idea, infringes on privacy, no value for the reader, and most of all infringes BLP. Unrelated: Here's something to read.--Asdfg12345 02:02, 26 March 2009 (UTC)
 * About TJ Spyke's remarks: I think that's okay, and if the nephews or nieces are mentioned in some appropriate context where it is normal to mention them, then there is not an issue, right? but if it was just a random mention with no context, or a list, it seems it would be better to avoid gratuitously providing that information.--Asdfg12345 02:13, 26 March 2009 (UTC)
 * I would feel that Shane's son being mentioned is okay in Shane's article; but what's the usefulness of mentioning it here? This article about Triple H gains nothing from knowing his nieces and nephews names. As for User:TJ Spyke's examples of other relatives being mentioned in Wikipedia pages, Jerry Lawler, Chavo Jr. and Bret Hart's nephews and nieces are all wrestlers; they're not minor children, they are notable as such. The nieces and nephews of Triple H, however, are not notable celebrities, they're just kids.
 * Also in response to Asdfg's question, the context of Triple H's nieces and nephews being listed didn't really exist, other than, "He's an uncle too: these are his nieces and nephews. You can see a diff here which shows how they were mentioned, here I had no idea I'd get such a pushback in removing them, as I thought it was a pretty minor thing to have in the article, and therefore a trivial thing to remove. Raven1977 <sup style="color:blue;">Talk to me <sub style="color:purple;">My edits  17:00, 27 March 2009 (UTC)


 * sighs*... I have to agree with Raven1977. Remove the nieces and nephews, they are not notable, at least not here. Feed  back  ☎ 22:07, 27 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Comment, Another thing to consider here is that in the case of the other wrestling families mentioned, the children are notable independently of the family. Is Lynn? No. Are her kids? No. I definitely think her kids names should be removed. They aren't celebrities, and neither is their mother, and they having nothing do with the wrestling business whatsoever. Also, Triple H isn't even blood related to Shane's sons. I have no problem with Shane's sons being listed on Stephanie McMahon's page and her kids on Shane's page because it is a family business. However, Shane's kids really don't have much to do with Triple H. Nikki  ♥  311  01:00, 28 March 2009 (UTC)

You guys wanted a third guy to vote? well, if you ask me, id say that they have children, and sex, and age and all that, same with nieces and nephews, but leave there names out of it, its gonna be hard enough for them growing up being harrased... etc.--Dr. Pizza (talk) 01:34, 31 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Kind of hard when WWE themselves announced the births (and their names) right on their website.  TJ   Spyke   00:10, 3 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Of Lynn's kids? Nikki  ♥  311  02:00, 4 April 2009 (UTC)

Even if you do have names and details announced elsewhere are they relevant in any way? Do the appear in any wrestling event? are they notorious in their own right in any fashion? Until they do something or are involved in something (say a custody dispute, for instance) I think it suffices to say that he has nephews and that's it. 83.174.61.58 (talk) 11:48, 3 April 2009 (UTC)

Move To Smackdown (2008-present) 4(Triple h def John cena)
Triple H's clean defeat of john cena in 2008 should be noted.I saw the argument against,which was that some title defenses in 2008 were not "notable".Clearly defeating john cena is very NOTE WORTHY. john cena is booked very strongly and very rarely has been defeated in a 1-1 on match.Its quite disapointing that the person who moderates this article is making strange excuses to add a simple 9 characters to the tag line of title defenses for triple h in his 2008 title reign.

1-its notable 2-adding cenas name is only 9 characters —Preceding unsigned comment added by 41.191.121.84 (talk) 19:21, 4 April 2009 (UTC)


 * Nobody is "moderating" this article. The article is semi-protected because it's a frequent target for vandalism, which means that IP addresses and accounts that haven't been confirmed yet can't edit at the moment. Any responses you see to suggestions on the talk page are usually just from other editors who have the article on their watchlist and those with accounts are trying to make decisions on whether to add the suggestions based on their understanding of Wikipedia policies. That being said, it's hard to say which match is or isn't notable, but having looked at the sentence you're talking about, I don't think any of the names he defended the title against are really needed, so Cenas isn't necessary either. If you feel strongly enough on the matter, perhaps a source which states the importance of the defense against Cena would help those of us who disagree see your side of things. Raven1977 <sup style="color:blue;">Talk to me <sub style="color:purple;">My edits  16:04, 7 April 2009 (UTC)

HHH win at WM25
Is it notable that its his first win at WM since WM19 Supermike (talk) 10:44, 5 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Not really. Its seems POVish. --  ThinkBlue  (Hit BLUE) 01:05, 8 April 2009 (UTC)

Not Inactive
while triple h is not showing up on the LIVE raw shown on TV he is being promoted for house shows in july and it's being promoted that he will face orton and batista in a triple treat match at a raw event sourses? watch smackdown it promotes them there 82.21.192.131 (talk) 17:28, 25 May 2009 (UTC)
 * What happens at house shows is generally not notable, unless a title changes hands. That WWE are promoting a house show with Orton, Batista and HHH in May for two months ahead is not a surprise, they want to sell tickets, however at this moment in time HHH is not on WWE TV, therefore he is currently inactive. This is not July, in July I suspect he will be active again. Darrenhusted (talk) 18:11, 25 May 2009 (UTC)

My time Rap version( The Game)
There is a unused theme which is the original version the Game theme it is also credited as the My Time Rap Remix and it should be added to his list of themes aswell. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Khooks314 (talk • contribs) 23:56, 18 June 2009 (UTC)

Entrance Music
I know this is only a small issue, but just want to mention that maybe Triple H's time using Mr. McMahon's "No Chance" theme should be mentioned. He used it during his time in The Corporation, as evident in this vid: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1w4NlUSKSC4&feature=related —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.44.137.18 (talk) 22:49, 2 July 2009 (UTC)

King of Kings
The header for the 2007 return area is "King of Kings"... however, Triple H and his King of Kings gimmick was before the DX reunion in 2006... it started on the road to wrestlemania... and that was when it was most marketed... when he wore the KOK attire, when he used the KOK song/tron for non-wrestling appearences... infact.. at WM22, he came out in the whole King of Kings garb. I think that the gimmick deserves some mention on where it actually took place. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.46.23.220 (talk) 04:48, 28 July 2009 (UTC)

Spinebuster
Isn't it called the "Double-A Spinebuster" like what JR says? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 122.53.82.113 (talk) 16:58, 23 January 2009 (UTC)


 * That's the orginial name of a spinebuster, not his spinebuster.  Simon KSK  22:14, 29 January 2009 (UTC)

'Double A' refers to Arn Anderson, who used the move years ago. Dan20001 (talk) 08:38, 13 August 2009 (UTC)

shouldn't a spinbuster be a attack move instead of a signeture ? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.72.35.186 (talk) 09:32, 25 October 2009 (UTC)

HHH is Not On Raw
If you look at triple H's Page Then You will see that it clearly says Triple H is in RAW! HHH is actually in Smackdown Not Raw and I was unable to edit it because it was semi protected so I say to whats his name creator of Wikipedia change the page because it is incorrect!!! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 121.223.149.238 (talk) 21:06, 13 December 2009 (UTC)

Triple H is on raw, he was drafted. That's why DX is unified Tag Team Champs —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.116.57.122 (talk) 20:00, 19 January 2010 (UTC)

New section heading
I think that we now need a new header, the latest one is "Feud with The Legacy and DX reunion (2009–present)".

As the Legacy feuded dissolved last year and HBK is now retired; neither of these are current. Mark handscombe (talk) 19:13, 4 May 2010 (UTC)

triple h signature move crossface
no mention of the arm trap crossface triple h uses from time to time as a submission. not sure of the times used but wrestlemania 24 is one of themRl1981 (talk) 09:43, 5 May 2010 (UTC). —Preceding unsigned comment added by Rl1981 (talk • contribs) 08:08, 5 May 2010 (UTC)

Editsemiprotected request
Please change Hunter Hearst Helmsley (HHH) to Hunter Hearst Helmsley in the Infobox. There's no mention of HHH at that (http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m0FCO/is_2_4/ai_88761521/). Thanks. 58.10.65.22 (talk) 12:56, 9 September 2010 (UTC)

Question: showing the initials after the name doesn't seem like a thing which requires sourcing. Is there another reason to remove these? They seem helpful to some readers who may not connect triple-H to the Helmsley name without the middle step. Thanks, Celestra (talk) 15:28, 9 September 2010 (UTC)

Managers
I'm not going to make an edit to the article, because I'm just wondering about this. Could Paul Bearer be considered a former manager of Triple H due to his membership in the Corporate Ministry? John (talk) 23:25, 26 September 2010 (UTC)

Personal Info?
Uh, where'd all the personal info go? I'm assuming it was deleted by one of the waves of trollers, and was overlooked somehow? I think we seriously should consider locking this page. Sherick (talk) 04:45, 10 October 2010 (UTC)
 * It was most likely anon user but seems you have already fixed it anyway.-- Steam   Iron  05:01, 10 October 2010 (UTC)

Citation # 5
This citation seems to be in the wrong place. Has some information been deleted and the source was deleted with it? Just curious. (MgTurtle (talk) 21:58, 10 October 2010 (UTC))

Edit request from Loopyluap, 8 June 2010
Triple H is currently filming a new movie " Killing Karma " release date is in 2010,this is the reason he is not an active member of the WWE roster.

Loopyluap (talk) 02:03, 8 June 2010 (UTC)


 * Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. Tim Pierce (talk) 02:46, 8 June 2010 (UTC)

heres a website http://www.themovieinsider.com/m6978/killing-karma/ —Preceding unsigned comment added by Wjmdem (talk • contribs) 04:26, 2 November 2010 (UTC)

the movie killing karma was renamed inside out prove the cast and summery of both http://www.movieinsider.com/m6978/killing-karma/          http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inside_Out_%282011_film%29

Lucha De Apuesta chart is completely unnecessary
Who added the completely meaningless "Lucha De Apuesta" chart which contains results of 3 random matches he had? Please remove it. It serves NO purpose whatsoever. 69.224.41.3 (talk) 23:28, 10 November 2010 (UTC)

The Game
I have not watched wrestling since 2002, but I do remember Trible H being called "The Game", so I added that to his stats. Shortly before his death, singer Dave Williams wrote and performed one of Triple H's entrance musics called "The Game" or "Here comes The Game" Here's a refrence: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BcjLtrC5RFE - Mdriver1981 (talk) 03:30, 21 November 2010 (UTC)

fans apperiation day
he made a one-day return at fans apperciation day by beating albert del rio why not add it? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 97.100.146.210 (talk) 17:26, 21 December 2010 (UTC)
 * You got a source that states he did this?-- Steam Iron  17:38, 21 December 2010 (UTC)

It was on the wwe website and the wwe mobile news 97.100.146.210 (talk) 21:32, 21 December 2010 (UTC)

Entrance Themes Missing
There are quite a few entrance themes missing from this section. "Higher Brain Pattern" -- Used while with the Corporate Ministry "Cerebral Assassin" -- Used when we discovered he was the one behind Austin's hit and run. Why aren't these two themes there? Charles-Joseph (talk) 22:08, 29 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Do you have a source for these themes? --  ThinkBlue  (Hit BLUE) 18:51, 6 February 2009 (UTC)

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WWF Broadcasts idiot. 91.107.186.52 (talk) 23:30, 8 January 2011 (UTC)

Edit request from 71.98.170.27, 5 January 2011
Please change his two daughters to three. This interview gives the name of his third daughter - it's Vaughn. http://rxmuscle.com/hmr-radio-show.html He gives the origins of his daughter's names.

71.98.170.27 (talk) 11:09, 5 January 2011 (UTC) Already doneIt already says three daughters in the personal life section; is there somewhere else that it says only 2? As for the third daughter's name, I'm not sure that that reference is reliable; any chance you have a written (rather than a "radio") source? Qwyrxian (talk) 10:00, 9 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Have added a contradiction tag . Someone want to get this sorted out? --jjron (talk) 14:50, 11 January 2011 (UTC)

Controversy
What ever happened to the controversy section that was on this page? I remember there being one, but I could be mistaken. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.144.179.34 (talk) 05:29, 16 April 2009 (UTC)

You're not mistaken, but the controversy section was too controversial. Ahem.


 * "Controversy" is a weasel word, and what is controversial to one person is not to another, also from what I can recall it lacked any credible references. Darrenhusted (talk) 13:18, 26 May 2009 (UTC)

The controversy section was for HHH and Jeff Jarrett as well. HHH for his ties with the McMahon family for being top guy constantly on Raw. JJ had this section for being the NWA champion all the time while he owned TNA. So although it had no credible references, that was the common viewpoint. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.125.178.111 (talk) 03:37, 19 January 2011 (UTC)

Add current potrayal to all wrestlers wikipedia.
I think its clear and good thing to add current potrayal to all wrestlers wikis. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.248.181.3 (talk) 12:38, 15 January 2011 (UTC)

Please change his WWE.com profile link to this: http://www.wwe.com/superstars/raw/tripleh/bio/ Sportsfan97501 (talk) 00:03, 22 January 2011 (UTC)

Third daughter
Paul & Stephanie had their third child, a girl, weeks ago. Why does Wikipedia keep removing this fact? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.78.238.139 (talk) 10:00, 14 September 2010 (UTC)

There was this same problem on Steph's page for a while, but I think I've gotten it to stick now there so I'm trying the same thing here. Unfortunately, there isn't a "reliable source" for the date, only that they have three daughters. So that's the best I've been able to do. Mysticalone27 (talk) 02:26, 1 November 2010 (UTC)

If you listen to this interview, he finally gives the name of the third baby - it's Vaughn - http://rxmuscle.com/hmr-radio-show.html This needs to be added already. :) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.98.170.27 (talk) 11:02, 5 January 2011 (UTC)

Triple H stated in an interview that his third daughter's name is Vaughn Evelyn. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.156.158.200 (talk) 03:59, 24 January 2011 (UTC)

third child
Triple H & Steph welcomed their 3rd daughter just the other day, can someone please add! 88.108.80.57 (talk) 16:19, 27 August 2010 (UTC)

They named her Vaughn Evelyn Levesque. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.23.152.77 (talk) 11:54, 24 January 2011 (UTC)

Shouldn't there be some sort of "main-stream appearance" section for Triple H?
Triple H has been primarily featured in many commercials, movies, and TV appearances. Shouldn't there be a section on that? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.186.22.249 (talk) 06:59, 31 January 2011 (UTC)

Edit request from 92.232.6.223, 22 February 2011
someone has typed the same thing twice

92.232.6.223 (talk) 00:01, 23 February 2011 (UTC)

Not done: please be more specific about what needs to be changed. Please state exactly what is duplicated, so that we can know what to correct. Thanks. Qwyrxian (talk) 03:30, 23 February 2011 (UTC)

Return before Wrestlemania XXVII
Triple H was interviewed via radio and revealed that he will definitely return before WresteMania[90].

Must read:

Triple H was interviewed via radio and revealed that he will definitely return before Wrestlemania XXVII[90].

Molax (talk) 01:00, 21 February 2011 (UTC)
 * I heard he's supposed to retire after this Wrestlemania. Can anyone confirm this?--[[Special:Contributions/76.216.122.136 (talk) 02:08, 1 March 2011 (UTC)Example.jpg]]

Ode to Joy
Didn't Triple H use Ode to Joy as his entrance music back in the '90s? 108.21.74.170 (talk) 21:25, 15 March 2011 (UTC)

Championship Error
Triple H is only technically a 22 time champion, as when he was Unified Tag Team Champion with Shawn Michaels, that did not count as him holding the WWE Tag Team Championiship and the World Tag Team Championship at that time. Can we change this so that it says Unified Tag Champion once with Shawn Michaels, instead of a second reign of the World Tag, and the one reign of the WWE Tag. If you need a source look at Triple H's WWE website page, look at the stats, it'll say he was a World Tag Team Champion (Stone Cold) and a Unified Tag Team Champion. So please change this.--92.232.177.0 (talk) 16:16, 30 March 2011 (UTC)

Drew Carey
Hey, Triple H was on an episode of the Drew Carey show, should that be added to his page? I would sign my name, but there's old syrup on that button, and pressing it feels really weird, sorry. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.95.205.242 (talk) 17:05, 15 April 2011 (UTC)

"WWE Chairman"
It is absolutely ridiculous to put in the opening of the article that he's the CEO of WWE. It's called a storyline, people! He does work in the office now and is being groomed to take over from Vince McMahon, however a storyling on a TV show does not prove it to be fact that he's in charge of the company. Therefore I have deleted this piece of misinformation and will continue to delete unless the highly unlikely scenario occurs that it is proven that he is in fact the true CEO of the company. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 90.201.70.175 (talk) 04:24, 19 July 2011 (UTC)

Good idea whoever put that he's the storyline CEO, that's a much better idea than just deleting it :-D — Preceding unsigned comment added by 90.201.70.175 (talk) 19:41, 19 July 2011 (UTC)

For Whom the Bell Tolls??
Triple H hadn't used this one at WM XXVII he used his regular theme "The Game" — Preceding unsigned comment added by MDsgk (talk • contribs) 14:19, 24 July 2011 (UTC)

Stop trolling, he did use For Whom The Bell Tolls... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_48M1L_i2-o BlueChainsawMan (talk) 14:49, 24 July 2011 (UTC)

Chief Operating Officer
In the storyline, it wasn't originally announced what he's titles would be, nor did it precisely state that he would be "Chairman and CEO". However, WWE Raw gives his new title as "Chief Operating Officer", which is inline with day-to-day stuff that he said last week. No mention of "Chairman" or "CEO".-- Tærkast (Discuss) 12:25, 26 July 2011 (UTC)

Really?
Is the WrestleMania section really needed? It doesn't seem to fit in the article, there isn't anything remarkable about his win-loss record, and it just seems pretty pointless. Granted he has performed at a lot of them, but I think that could be better presented as a sentence or two. 67.181.76.194 (talk) 07:54, 1 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Nope, there is no need for it and I will delete it any time I get the chance as it is clear WP:LISTCRUFT. Tony2Times (talk) 21:32, 4 December 2011 (UTC)

wheres the walkout
In the text it says "After repeated attacks from these wrestlers in various matches, the majority of WWE's on-screen staff gave Triple H a vote of no confidence" They forgot to put, by walking out of the building, after cofindence — Preceding unsigned comment added by Wweguy213 (talk • contribs) 16:05, 16 January 2012 (UTC)