Talk:Tron: Legacy/Archive 1

Appearance by Tron Guy
yup that's right it is rumored that Tron Guy will in the movie —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.100.49.184 (talk) 18:08, 21 May 2009 (UTC)
 * And? Do you have sources, or are you just spreading rumours? magnius (talk) 23:34, 25 July 2009 (UTC)


 * This thread does smack of forum chatter, doesn't it? --McDoobAU93 (talk) 00:28, 26 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Yep. So where's a good forum to discuss the new movie? Cousert (talk)

two major items
a) there MUST be an official citation from Disney showing that this film is in production before it is added to List of Disney feature films. One of you who are familiar with editing this page should be able to track one down. The comiccon trailer is not an official announcement, as that was merely proof-of-concept.  Yes, I know about the D23 announcement stating the Tron footage will be shown at Expo, but that doesn't count either.  b) this page should be renamed to "Tron (2011 film)" from its current Tron 2.0, as there is no proof that the 2.0 name is real. SpikeJones (talk) 12:14, 4 June 2009 (UTC)
 * .... and now we're down to one major item, as the film has, while not been officially officially announced, made it into a Disney press release for its announcement at Comic-Con. What's left is that there is a high probability that the name of this article will change. Chances are "Tron (2011 film)" is going to be what it is, but we'll need to wait some more before that decision is made. SpikeJones (talk) 02:01, 11 July 2009 (UTC)
 * They're not going to simply call it "Tron" as it is a sequel, and it is still far too early to speculate on what its final title will be. I do think that this article should be renamed to the more generic "Tron 2" "Tron sequel" or "Unnamed Tron sequel". magnius (talk) 10:04, 11 July 2009 (UTC)
 * "Unnamed Tron Sequel" would qualify as a reason to get the article speedily deleted (if it's unnamed, then how is it encyclopedic?). "Tron 2" is too generic and potentially confusing with "Tron 2.0". "Tron (2011 film)" is the most specific name based on what we currently know. Regardless, it's not something we need to take care of now, but to be aware of once the official name announcement is made. SpikeJones (talk) 14:33, 11 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Having seen the officially released synopsis, you could be right about the title being just "TRON", although I hope this changes as it is rather confusing. magnius (talk) 17:20, 12 July 2009 (UTC)

Image removed
Aside from there not being a single reliable source, this image is not going to be used in the film by the artists own admission:. Therefore, I am removing the image until something verifiable comes along. magnius (talk) 15:20, 16 June 2009 (UTC)

As well as removal of fanart, I am removing the Daniel Simon picture as the sourced article does not explicitly state that this cycle is a concept from the film, it seems just to be an example of Simon's work from here. magnius (talk) 15:25, 16 June 2009 (UTC)

Richard Jefferies
Are we sure that this guy was involved in writing the film? --Kelseigh (talk) 15:52, 25 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Well of course he wasn't, clearly a simple error that you could have sorted out in less time that it took you to post this stupid question. magnius (talk) 16:04, 25 July 2009 (UTC)
 * I honestly had no idea who the actual writer was, but thanks for the condescending insult, it's really encouraging. --Kelseigh (talk) 15:07, 26 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Be nice..., Rhetth (talk) 17:54, 15 August 2009 (UTC)

Heart of Darkness
There's a lot of discussion on whether Tron Legacy is inspired by Heart of Darkness. One earlier script was, and apparently the film script doesn't, but the trailer sure seems to hint at it. Regardless, the relationship between the two works seems to be strong. JAF1970 (talk) 04:57, 27 July 2009 (UTC)

Viral site
Flynn Lives JAF1970 (talk) 13:07, 27 July 2009 (UTC)

Canon
It would seem that the game Tron 2.0 isn't going to be regarded as canon. In the game, Flynn didn't disappear in 1989, as there are more modern e-mail conversations. The Tron wiki over at Wikia says Steven Lisberger doesn't consider the game as canon either. --Mosquitopsu (talk) 16:58, 27 July 2009 (UTC)
 * That's hardly a surprise, the game didn't sell too well and the majority of the audience would have no idea what the plot was (I know I don't). magnius (talk) 17:36, 27 July 2009 (UTC)
 * On the other hand, there's an item you have to recover in the game which is called the Tron Legacy code. I think the similarity to the new movie's title is more than a coincidence. Devil Master (talk) 17:44, 4 August 2009 (UTC)
 * AFAIR, the Tron Legacy Code is named so because it's a replacement/upgrade of Tron. Any similarity to the movie is likely only coincidence.--Cyberman TM (talk) 17:20, 8 August 2009 (UTC)
 * As always, we'll need verifiable info from reliable sources before this is anything more than speculation. &mdash; KieferSkunk (talk) &mdash; 19:39, 9 August 2009 (UTC)

Similarities to Other Works
Just commenting that the trailer highly reminds me of Neal Stephenson's Snow Crash. Then again, the original Tron came way earlier. Quantalume Wanderer (talk) 06:50, 29 July 2009 (UTC)

Character "Clu"
Wasn't Clu "de-rezed" at the beginning of Tron? Cousert (talk)
 * Ever heard of backups? Devil Master (talk) 17:34, 4 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Maybe. Is the cyber world of Tron run on a quantum computer? Supposedly backups won't be possible on quantum computers (the mere act of looking at a qbit will change its value). Cousert (talk)
 * Maybe this will help - Cousert (talk)
 * It's just a film, and we have no clear idea of the plot, so this is a pointless coversation. Talk pages are not here to serve as a general discussion forum, if you wish to discuss your original research or POV then take it to a dedicated site. magnius (talk) 10:46, 6 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Please delete my Wikipedia account. I have no interest in participating in a group that censors its members. Cousert (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 19:17, 6 August 2009 (UTC).
 * Who's censoring what? Magnius merely pointed out that this discussion is outside what's acceptable on the article talk page.  There are policies on Wikipedia, and editors are expected to abide by them - if you aren't willing to deal with that, then by all means, post a request to have your account deleted at the Administrator's Noticeboard. &mdash; KieferSkunk (talk) &mdash; 19:44, 9 August 2009 (UTC)

Number of sequels?
Are there plans to do more than one sequel if the first is successful? Maybe a trilogy? Cousert (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 15:48, 31 July 2009 (UTC).
 * Don't know. No reliable sources exist to say whether there are any plans like that yet. &mdash; KieferSkunk (talk) &mdash; 19:40, 9 August 2009 (UTC)

link to director
Shouldn't there be a wikilink to Joseph Kosinski? Or am I missing something? Please, be gentle. Rhetth (talk) 17:51, 15 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Of course there should, but you also added a load of redlinks which was the reason for the revert. I hadn't noticed that you has created a page for the director, up until now he has been a redlink too. magnius (talk) 17:53, 15 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Red links are extremely useful because they are excellent in identifying articles that need creation. This is especially true in a case where a simple search with the string "Joseph Kosinski" shows about a dozen or so Wikipedia articles mentioning the red-linked subject. In such a case, the red link identifies that the article is needed but not yet created. We should not de-link red links unless it is unlikely that an article about the subject will be created. It's always a good idea to click the red link and check the Special:WhatLinksHere link as well as to do a search of Wikipedia with the string in question before de-linking any red links. Big Bird (talk • contribs) 20:26, 18 August 2009 (UTC)

Real trailer
When can we expect to see a trailer for the movie, not just the test film they showed at Comic Con? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.100.45.171 (talk) 00:39, 31 October 2009 (UTC)
 * I want a link to the trailer on the main article. This is a valid request, please do not delete it again. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.100.45.171 (talk) 07:04, 3 November 2009 (UTC)
 * If so, then please do the research yourself. The talk pages are meant to discuss issues/suggestions/conflicts regarding the article, not to make this type of requests.  Also, please remember to sign your comments. -- Lyverbe (talk) 13:33, 3 November 2009 (UTC)

Sam Flynn's alias?
Does Sam Flynn have an alias?


 * If Dad was CLU, then Java could be appropriate, I should think. Java is a short name, like CLU. Although CLU predated Java by about 20 years, it had similar features: Garbage collection, Exception handling, and iterators.  CLU has clusters, used for abstract data types, so they weren't fully object-oriented, as JAVA's classes are rhyre (talk) 23:08, 11 January 2010 (UTC)


 * This is something that would be best suited for a forum. Unless we have a source that states something of this nature, any talk on this subject would be speculation and off-topic for purposes of the article. &mdash; KieferSkunk (talk) &mdash; 01:00, 12 January 2010 (UTC)


 * Agreed. (Though it might be fair to mention, Flynn himself did not have an alias while on the Grid, he just went by "Flynn." CLU was just a program Flynn created). Zargabaath 16:52, 19 August 2010 (UTC)

Budget amount
Are we sure the budget is 300 million. I want a source claiming that amount. Anyone want to lend thoughts. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.134.234.143 (talk) 23:17, 14 March 2010 (UTC)
 * Good catch, this has been added and reverted endlessly for months. About time we had a source, or not at all. magnius (talk) 23:19, 14 March 2010 (UTC)

Title wrong
Why Tron : Legacy instead of Tron Legacy ? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 95.245.234.47 (talk) 15:36, 21 March 2010 (UTC)


 * I concur with that question ... why wasn't there a move discussion before this took place? --McDoobAU93 (talk) 15:43, 21 March 2010 (UTC)
 * I agree, in fact I questioned the move at the time, but no consensus ever got reached. Time this was opened up for question again. magnius (talk) 23:53, 21 March 2010 (UTC)


 * I remember seeing someone on Tron's page (I think) change the reference to this movie to include the colon. At the time they said that all of the official movie press was listing the film that way.  No one else commented and a few days later I saw the move change log go by in my watchlist.  I just assumed someone confirmed that (since I never bothered to go look it up for myself).  Millahnna (mouse)  talk  00:18, 22 March 2010 (UTC)


 * A quick google shows imdb (yeah I know) has it listed without the colon. It is, however, in the official "info" blurb (although it seems to be absent from the movie's logo) on the official site.  SO I believe the title is correct with the colon.  Millahnna (mouse)  talk  00:22, 22 March 2010 (UTC)


 * support page move. There are enough references on the official Tron website and in released official Disney statements that show the colon is used in text, even if the colon is not displayed in the graphic logo.SpikeJones (talk) 03:34, 22 March 2010 (UTC)


 * Links? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 95.233.237.215 (talk) 18:57, 3 April 2010 (UTC)

Cindy Morgan?
"As Dr. Lora Baines, Cindy Morgan appeared with Bruce Boxleitner (as Alan Bradley) at the Encom Press Conference in San Francisco, April 2, 2010. It was revealed that Lora and Alan had married." However, Cindy Morgan is not listed under the cast. Is she in the movie but hasn't been seen yet or is she only doing the promotion? Occamsrazorwit (talk) 01:55, 29 May 2010 (UTC)


 * Last I heard, she's not actually in the movie. I haven't been following all the story behind this movie, but if it has any relation to the game Tron 2.0, then Lora Baines/Bradley would have died in a dematerialization accident before the game's (and this movie's) storyline.  I honestly don't know if there's any continuity between the PC game and the movie, so it's possible that Lora would still be alive and just not appearing in the film.  (It's also possible that she'll be in the movie uncredited - some very famous actors sometimes do that.) &mdash; KieferSkunk (talk) &mdash; 00:12, 29 May 2010 (UTC)

Not true
"At over twenty-eight years, this film marks the longest gap between a live-action film and its theatrical sequel in Hollywood history."

Actually, Return to Oz was 44 years after The Wizard of Oz. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.30.57.81 (talk) 20:42, 8 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Return t Oz isn't strictly a sequel (although admitedly set after the events of the previous film). Rather like the recent Alice in Wonderland, it uses a follow up book as it's source material, but isn't a sequel to the Disney animated feature. magnius (talk) 20:51, 8 June 2010 (UTC)
 * However, The Odd Couple 2 does prove the statement wrong, being a direct sequel that came out 30 years after the original film.
 * All true, but it doesn't stop them marketing it as such. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Kendroche (talk • contribs) 05:44, 13 August 2010 (UTC)

British?
"Tron: Legacy is a British and American upcoming 2010 science fiction film."

Is there any cite to suggest British involvment in the film? As far as I can see from the information in the article itself none of the people or companies involved in its production are British. 82.69.25.240 (talk) 20:37, 21 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Having done a fair amount of looking around, the only British involvement in Tron is that it's being released here.Where is WikiResearch? (talk) 05:43, 13 August 2010 (UTC)

"Tron 2" redirect
I started a discussion about the "Tron 2" redirect here. Any input is welcome. Rehevkor ✉  02:16, 26 October 2010 (UTC)

Citation for Alan Bradley & Lora Baines marriage
I have no idea how to link this, so I'm posting it here to let someone who does know how to add it. On the official TRON: Legacy site, under the Codex, then Users, then Alan Bradley it confirms it by saying: "After Flynn's disappearance in 1989, Alan continued at ENCOM to protect the company and married Dr. Lora Baines." You can only direct link to the user page of the codex, not the individual entries, here's that link: http://disney.go.com/tron/html/codex/tron-legacy/users.html --Maestro4k (talk) 20:14, 14 November 2010 (UTC)