Talk:Tropical Storm Helene (2000)

Todo
Good start, but some things are needed. You should mention that operationally the storm was declared extratropical, with links to tropical weather outlooks after it became extratropical and HPC discussions. The whole thing needs a copyedit. Also, where did the $16 million in damage occur? Was it primarily in Florida, Carolinas, ??? Also, are both fatalities direct? I thought automobile-related fatalities were indirect. Hurricanehink ( talk ) 20:38, 10 August 2006 (UTC)
 * When during its lifetime was it operationally declared extratropical? íslenska hurikein | #12 (samtal) 20:48, 10 August 2006 (UTC)
 * Whoops, I remembered incorrectly. The final NHC advisory predicted for the storm to become extratropical, and the HPC dropped it without saying its final status. In the NHC's TWO, they said that tropical cyclone advisories could have been re-initiated, but moved over cooler waters. Note in the Outlooks that the storm was considered a low pressure system, and they said the possibility of it regaining tropical characteristics. That's why I said that. I still think the fact it wasn't carried as a storm after North Carolina operationally should be mentioned. Hurricanehink ( talk ) 21:04, 10 August 2006 (UTC)
 * Now what? íslenskur fellibylur #12 (samtal) 16:40, 28 August 2006 (UTC)
 * I still think you should mention that the NHC considered re-instating advisories. Hurricanehink ( talk ) 16:46, 28 August 2006 (UTC)
 * Also, you should add the fact that before Bonnie and Charley, Helene and Gordon is the most recent example of two storms hitting Florida in a short amount of time. The source is on the Tropical Storm Bonnie page. Hurricanehink ( talk ) 16:48, 28 August 2006 (UTC)
 * Done. íslenskur fellibylur #12 (samtal) 17:02, 28 August 2006 (UTC)
 * Not quite. You should use the original source, not sourcing the Bonnie article. You should also mention, per the TWO, that the NHC considered reissuing advisories. Hurricanehink ( talk ) 17:15, 28 August 2006 (UTC)
 * I'll look for an original source, but I did write that the NHC considered reissuing advisories
 * Sorry, I missed the NHC thing. The original source is in the Bonnie article. Hurricanehink ( talk ) 17:21, 28 August 2006 (UTC)
 * Done, I think. íslenskur fellibylur #12 (samtal) 18:03, 28 August 2006 (UTC)

So, what now? íslenskur fellibylur #12 (samtal) 00:02, 13 September 2006 (UTC)
 * I'd recommend an outside copyedit before putting it up for GA, but it looks good enough for B class, IMO. Hurricanehink ( talk ) 00:06, 13 September 2006 (UTC)
 * Any ideas for who would do a nice outside copyedit? íslenskur fellibylur #12 (samtal) 16:48, 24 September 2006 (UTC)
 * Tito's usually pretty good with that. Hurricanehink ( talk ) 17:03, 24 September 2006 (UTC)

Taking another look at it, more info is needed, particularly Florida impact. Try and find a damage total. Hurricanehink ( talk ) 22:17, 20 December 2006 (UTC)

NBSP?
Any particular reason some articles are using machine-mediated spaces? I ask because this edit added a whole bunch of them, which of course makes it harder to read the code. Captainktainer * Talk 21:17, 27 August 2006 (UTC)
 * The reason is in the Manual of Style, WP:MOSNUM. That is done so that the value and the unit will display on the same line (hence the no-break spaces).--Nilfanion (talk) 21:30, 27 August 2006 (UTC)
 * Thanks, I'd been looking for that. Now I know not to edit that out when I see it. Captainktainer * Talk 19:15, 28 August 2006 (UTC)

flooding in South Carolina
This article includes the statement: "The rains caused flooding along Highway 47 near Elgin." There are two places named Elgin in South Carolina and I attempted to resolve the disambiguation. Highway 47 is only 6 miles long and it is not near either Elgin. It is near Elloree, SC (verified by the (Wikipedia) article on Highway 47 and by searching google maps). I assume that is where the flooding was. The citation is a newspaper article that refers to Elgin. I assume the newspaper article was wrong. I could only find that this report of flooding along Highway 47 near Elgin came from "the local weather service".

Mb66w (talk) 05:11, 21 October 2015 (UTC)

ISSUE RESOLVED (following text copied from User talk:Fyrael):

I see you disambiguated the link to Elgin. I tried to do so a year ago and could not determine which Elgin it was because I could not find Highway 47 near either Elgin. I suspected it wasn't Elgin at all. I put this on the talk page. How did you make your conclusion? MB 21:42, 22 November 2016 (UTC)
 * I would agree with you that "Highway 47 near Elgin" is probably incorrect since the highway is supposedly contained within Orangeburg county and neither Elgin is within that county, but that part is a direct quote from the newspaper source. I was actually thinking that the Elgin I picked was in the next county over and maybe they were using an extraordinarily generous definition of "near", but looking again I see that Kershaw doesn't even border Orangeburg. It's hard to know what to do with a situation like this where the source is probably wrong (unless there's actually another Elgin in Orangeburn which Google isn't finding). If you have any better solution, feel free to discard my edit.&#32;-- Fyrael (talk) 03:57, 23 November 2016 (UTC)
 * I've done a bit of Google mapping just for curiosity's sake and didn't find anything (town, road, whatever) near 47 that's called Elgin. I'm pretty convinced that the newspaper printed the wrong thing and I'm just going to remove that sentence.&#32;-- Fyrael (talk) 05:41, 23 November 2016 (UTC)
 * Oh ha, you already did it. Very nice.&#32;-- Fyrael (talk) 05:44, 23 November 2016 (UTC)
 * (Just had an Edit Conflict trying to leave this message:) Since the highest rainfall was in Bamberg County, which is adjacent to Orangeburg County, and there was also very high rainfall in Orangeburg County, and Highway 47 is in Orangeburg County, I decided to just drop the mention of Elgin and say "Highway 47 in Orangeburg County". That much agrees with the source.  Leaving out something from the source that can't be verified elsewhere should not be a problem. I also note that the source was the National Weather Service, reported by AP - so not local people.MB 05:50, 23 November 2016 (UTC)

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