Talk:Tropical Storm Octave (1983)

Damage
It is unclear as to how much damage it caused. I see 3 values on the page, the one in the article part should be noted what year. I also see no reason for a 2005 USD in the infobox. Who cares about 2005 USD, the current year is 2010, and the storm occurred in 1983. atomic 77  32  01:24, 27 November 2010 (UTC)
 * That is the year that the article was written. There is an estimation on $300 mil in 1983 but that is just about it. YE  Tropical   Cyclone  01:27, 27 November 2010 (UTC)

Was it just Octave?
Same concern applies here that was stated for Tropical Storm Paul (2000). Cyclonebiskit (talk) 18:36, 27 November 2010 (UTC)
 * I am well aware of such. Ill try and add more details later. YE   Tropical   Cyclone
 * CB, NWS recognizes it as the remnants of Octave. atomic  77  32  20:57, 27 November 2010 (UTC)
 * I'm just wondering, it seems like a similar scenario what I was talking about on the project page, where the actual tropical storm didn't do anything. This article only exists due to the remnant impact, and it seems that impact is rarely even called "Octave". In fact, aside from the MWR and the best track, only one of the refs connect Octave to the flooding, and the NWS actually says "Tropical storm remains...including those from Hurricane Octave" - which implies it might not have been solely Octave. IMO, the article should be moved to October 1983 Arizona flooding - a Google search shows that gets plenty of hits. It seems like a combination of storms, so I don't think it'd be appropriate to call it solely Octave. Hurricanehink ( talk ) 16:00, 5 December 2010 (UTC)
 * Ok, I am planning to move it to a floods article soon. YE  Tropical   Cyclone  01:17, 11 December 2010 (UTC)
 * Scratch that, there is non-Arizona data that includes Mexico here. YE  Tropical   Cyclone  01:41, 11 December 2010 (UTC)
 * Not much though. It still remains that most of the impact was in the southwest United States, caused by a combination of systems. Hurricanehink ( talk ) 07:28, 11 December 2010 (UTC)
 * It is debatable. We could re-title it Fall 1983 Sonoran Desert flood? YE  Tropical   Cyclone  17:15, 11 December 2010 (UTC)
 * I believe "Autumn" is more appropriate for seasons, but I think most of the flooding happened in October, so I'd opt for that instead of "Fall". --Hurricanehink ( talk ) 17:20, 11 December 2010 (UTC)
 * Was there actually any damage or flooding in Mexico? All that we get out of the rainfall graphic is that it rained there. Cyclonebiskit (talk) 17:22, 11 December 2010 (UTC)
 * Good point, CB. If there wasn't, we can still simply call it "October 1983 Arizona floods". --Hurricanehink ( talk ) 17:24, 11 December 2010 (UTC)
 * There was damage in New Mexico per this. Maybe Autumn 1983 Southwest flood? YE  Tropical   Cyclone  18:12, 11 December 2010 (UTC)
 * I oppose YEs suggested title per WP Policy's that say you can not use Autumn in the topic since Autumn is March, April, and May.Jason Rees (talk) 20:49, 11 December 2010 (UTC)
 * Then, Fall 1983 Southwest (U.S) floods? YE  Tropical   Cyclone  21:01, 11 December 2010 (UTC)
 * Fall is similarly not allowed.Jason Rees (talk) 21:11, 11 December 2010 (UTC)

(un-indented) How about, "October 1983 Southwest United States floods" Cyclonebiskit (talk) 22:45, 11 December 2010 (UTC)
 * Well, the flood started in September. I like Autumn 1983 Southwest United States floods the best. We could also re-title September/Ocotber 1983 Southwest United States floods, but it is against the naming convention policy. We could also keep the current title. It is debatable. YE   Tropical   Cyclone  03:15, 12 December 2010 (UTC)
 * But, as with the event not being entirely in United States (only primarily), the worst of the floods were in September. We're going for simplicity but accuracy. I agree with CB's suggestion. Hurricanehink ( talk ) 03:26, 12 December 2010 (UTC)
 * Fair enough, if nobody objects during the next 12-24 hours, ill re-title the article. YE  Tropical   Cyclone  03:35, 12 December 2010 (UTC)

The conversion from storm to flood article should be done now. Hurricanehink ( talk ) 17:59, 14 December 2010 (UTC)

Given how-known the event was as Octave, perhaps the article should be moved back? This is clearly a different case than Paul 00 or Noel 01, which were barely related to their events, and the historic topic isn't associated much with them. ♫ Hurricanehink ( talk ) 18:14, 1 July 2013 (UTC)
 * Agreed. I had prepared this article in case this would get moved back. YE Pacific  Hurricane 18:24, 1 July 2013 (UTC)
 * Go ahead and convert it back. I'll move it now. ♫ Hurricanehink ( talk ) 18:28, 1 July 2013 (UTC)

Useful book?
This book may contain some information relevant to preparations (mostly flash flood watches) and impacts (lots of pictures). Tito xd (?!? - cool stuff) 18:53, 21 July 2011 (UTC)

This USGS report is also very relevant. Tito xd (?!? - cool stuff) 22:46, 31 January 2012 (UTC)

NCDC
Don't forget to use the Storm Data -. ♫ Hurricanehink ( talk ) 13:08, 2 July 2013 (UTC)
 * Oh, I totally forgot. Ill add it in a sec. YE Pacific  Hurricane 14:18, 2 July 2013 (UTC)
 * ✅. YE Pacific  Hurricane 15:03, 2 July 2013 (UTC)