Talk:Tropical Storm Tess/GA1

GA Review
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Reviewer: Juliancolton (talk · contribs) 02:59, 19 April 2017 (UTC)

Hi, I'll be reviewing this article. Comments to come... –  Juliancolton  &#124; Talk 02:59, 19 April 2017 (UTC)

Some editing is needed, but it's got a strong foundation. On-hold for now. –  Juliancolton  &#124; Talk 20:05, 19 April 2017 (UTC)
 * Per WP:EASTER, avoid the Easter egg pipelink in the first line.
 * ✅. YE Pacific Hurricane  06:38, 20 April 2017 (UTC)
 * "within the general proximity of" - why not just "near"?
 * ✅. YE Pacific Hurricane  06:38, 20 April 2017 (UTC)
 * Following an increase in organization, the disturbance was designated on November 3. - designated what?
 * Added TC. YE Pacific Hurricane  06:38, 20 April 2017 (UTC)
 * a remote island geographically isolated - doesn't "remote" already sort of imply geographic isolation?
 * Good call. YE Pacific Hurricane  06:38, 20 April 2017 (UTC)
 * "via" is an odd word choice in this instance.
 * I use it all the time, but changed to "due to". YE Pacific Hurricane  06:38, 20 April 2017 (UTC)
 * Per WP:EUPHEMISM, don't use "passed away".
 * I don't think "passed away" is biased, but the MOS disagrees, so changed. YE Pacific Hurricane
 * JTWC first classified - no need for "first".
 * Agreed in this context, and removed. YE Pacific Hurricane  06:38, 20 April 2017 (UTC)
 * Almost immediately after the upgrades, the storm's track shifted from southwestward to westward in response to a trough weakening to the north, which also promoted increased upper level outflow and decreased wind shear due to a thinner pressure gradient between the trough and a nearby ridge, starting on November 4. - you need to explain this in more simple terms. I'm usually pretty good with synoptics, and I got well and truly tripped up here.
 * Cut the bits about increased upper level outflow out after looking at the JTWC's wording "Almost immediately after the first warning, the track became westward. The most probable explanation for this change appeared in the low-level northeasterly gradient flow. The pressure gradient between the winter high and the lower pressure associated with Tess had sustained a persistent flow of at least 30 kt (15 m/stX) ups~am of the tropical cyclone since 1 November. This upstream pressure gradient relaxed on 4 November and the gales clustered around Tess." YE Pacific Hurricane  06:38, 20 April 2017 (UTC)
 * This decreased shear promoted intensification. - I think "allowed" might be more accurate than "promoted".
 * Does "led to" work? YE <sup style="color:#666660;">Pacific <sup style="color:#666660;">Hurricane
 * the JTWC [...] was given the name Tess
 * Rewrote. YE <sup style="color:#666660;">Pacific <sup style="color:#666660;">Hurricane  06:38, 20 April 2017 (UTC)
 * the JTWC estimates - tense.
 * Fixed. YE <sup style="color:#666660;">Pacific <sup style="color:#666660;">Hurricane
 * its peka intentness - that's a new one. :)
 * Words and phrases are invented every day. YE <sup style="color:#666660;">Pacific <sup style="color:#666660;">Hurricane  06:38, 20 April 2017 (UTC)
 * intensity estimates [...] was still a severe tropical storm
 * Better? YE <sup style="color:#666660;">Pacific <sup style="color:#666660;">Hurricane  06:38, 20 April 2017 (UTC)
 * town of Rizal was the hardest hit, where 23 fatalities happened. - Dangling modifier (or something?), and "happened" is crude.
 * Split into two sentences, though it doesn't flow well and changed "happened" to "occurred". YE <sup style="color:#666660;">Pacific <sup style="color:#666660;">Hurricane  06:38, 20 April 2017 (UTC)
 * 75 were confirmed to have been killed on November 10 - they died before November 10, presumably.
 * Probably, but on November 10, there was an abrupt increase in the death count in press reports, likely due to poor communications, but I don't really wanna make any assumptions. YE <sup style="color:#666660;">Pacific <sup style="color:#666660;">Hurricane  06:38, 20 April 2017 (UTC)
 * The Laguna Lake sentence is a run-on.
 * Split up. YE <sup style="color:#666660;">Pacific <sup style="color:#666660;">Hurricane  06:38, 20 April 2017 (UTC)
 * One person was injured. - I'm having a super hard time believing that with nearly 700 deaths and a similar number destitute, only a single person was non-fatally injured.
 * That's literally what the NDCC has reported and press reports seem to avoid the mention of injuries altogether (I just did a quick search for [typhoon tess 1988 injured] and got as many results as snow this year- zero). YE <sup style="color:#666660;">Pacific <sup style="color:#666660;">Hurricane  07:12, 20 April 2017 (UTC)
 * "accumulated" is not the right word.
 * Meh, changed to cost. YE <sup style="color:#666660;">Pacific <sup style="color:#666660;">Hurricane  06:38, 20 April 2017 (UTC)
 * I'm sure you've done your due diligence, but you know I have to ask: isn't there any more Vietnam info out there?
 * I don't think so, but let me search by looking at some other GA's not done by me, and looking at their sources, if possible. I'm not really familiar with Vietnam sources; the one time I looked it was for a different storm in 1983 and didn't turn anything up. YE <sup style="color:#666660;">Pacific <sup style="color:#666660;">Hurricane  06:38, 20 April 2017 (UTC)
 * EMDAT has 101 dead and 93k affected. Not sure what the later means exactly in EMDAT's context, and the I don't trust its death tolls over the HKO in this instance (seems odd it would shoot up from 37 to 101 somehow given the HKO report is done the following year and doesn't mention any missing people, plus the HKO is the best with impact in this area, at least compared to press reports, so I trust it more than say the NHC with impact. Otherwise, nothing else. YE <sup style="color:#666660;">Pacific <sup style="color:#666660;">Hurricane  07:10, 20 April 2017 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the review JC. YE <sup style="color:#666660;">Pacific <sup style="color:#666660;">Hurricane  06:38, 20 April 2017 (UTC)
 * Alright, looking a lot better. I made a couple minor edits to smooth out the new additions. My only complaint at this point is that I really think you should remove the one injury statistic, unless you have reliable sources aside from one database. It's just too strongly at odds with everything else we know about the disaster. –  Juliancolton  &#124; Talk 15:17, 20 April 2017 (UTC)
 * ✅. YE <sup style="color:#666660;">Pacific <sup style="color:#666660;">Hurricane  16:11, 20 April 2017 (UTC)