Talk:Tropospherical

Moved out of userspace
OK. After much lonesome and clumsy work in my userspace, I've written so far what you see here, and have now moved it out of userspace. There's not really all that much more I can add/subtract to/from it on my own. Hopefully some of you other wonderful people will also come and edit this one.

'''At this point, please consider that there may be gross factual inaccuracies - at least untill another editor takes an interest too. --Crimsone 11:55, 13 October 2006 (UTC)

Distinction/purpose of article
I made a query over at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject_Meteorology that I'm unclear what the goal of this article is that will make it distinct from Earth's atmosphere, atmospheric circulation, atmospheric physics or troposphere. I thought this is a better place to continue any discussion. Admittedly, some of those articles listed are underdeveloped, but so far this article appears mostly to repeat information from them. I'm not suggesting deletion of this article, rather clarification so that I can contribute to it effectively. My thoughts on the articles in the above list are,


 * Earth's atmosphere: uber-article describing briefly main features: layers (troposphere, stratosphere, etc.), composition, history, chemistry, circulation. Similar to current format, but devolving more of the detail on each section to subarticles.


 * atmospheric circulation: Article describing in general processes that govern the motion of planetary atmospheres (not necessarily Earth).


 * atmospheric physics: There is possibly scope for seperate articles on physics (e.g., radiation budgets) and dynamics (e.g., fluid motions), but there's probably quite a bit of overlap with atmospheric circulation


 * Earth's atmosphere (Meteorology): Article describing main observed meteorological features of Earth's atmosphere. This would be one of the sub-articles from Earth's atmosphere.  This would replace much of the information currently in atmospheric circulation.

Maybe I'm wide of the mark on the intention of this article, let me know if I am.

Deditos 14:10, 31 October 2006 (UTC).


 * Kind of, except this article supplements the article, not replaces it.Earths Atmosphere comes at the subject from a purely fluid dynamics angle. This article (while admittedly haveing a short section on the "three-cell model") is aimed more at a meteorological perspective. The primary purpose of this article was to add information on the three observational levels of weather (upper, middle and lower) which are nothing to do with the atmospheric circulaton, and would look misplaced in the tropopause article - at least so while the section is so stubby. It just so happened that I saw an opportunity in the article to explain a few other meteorological terms that have no meteorological explanation on wiki while writing it. Perhaps they could be moved out to their own articles later. Of course, if desired, Atmospheric circulation could be merged into this one to create on fuller and wider ranging article, but I would consider that a long way out at the moment, if it's ever the case.


 * It was always really an interim thing, and doesn't really do any harm exixsting as it does at the moment, in fact it points people in the right direction and otherwise fills in holes in meteorological concepts/terms on wiki for the time being.


 * When everything mentioned in this article has it's own place to merge to (and I'm not referring to the maths pages on divergence and convergence :), but meteorological explanations), it may be that there's no longer a case for this article. For now though, its really a meteorology/weather specific page hat fills in gaps in some semblance of order that seem out of place explained elsewhere.Crimsone 18:26, 31 October 2006 (UTC)

merge into Atmosphere of Earth
Is there any reason not to merge this into Earth's atmosphere in a section? I fail to see the point of this standalone orphan. --Joy &#91;shallot&#93; (talk) 23:05, 13 February 2011 (UTC)