Talk:Troughman

BLP compliance explanation
It is uncertain if Troughman is currently alive so treating him as BLP is the best way forward. I relied upon his self witnessing of sexual biography in an edited peer reviewed journal article whose article editor was an expert and who commented on the piece which was published in an on topic academic journal for the sexual biography. For fame and myth I relied upon pieces published in the major broadsheet for Sydney and official blogs edited on that broadsheets online content pages. I think given that the subject self witnessed in an academically reviewed space and the media articles were subject to editorial process mindful of NSW libel law that this is BLP compliant. The tone is certainly dispassionate. Fifelfoo_m (talk) 00:56, 5 November 2010 (UTC)


 * I agree - in the absence of any evidence that he is dead, we must assume that he is alive for BLP purposes. – ukexpat (talk) 18:12, 5 November 2010 (UTC)

Uncensored
Yes, Virginia, Wikipedia is uncensored. I shall bookmark this article to refer to whenever notability issues arise. Since it made the Main Page I was relieved, you might say, that it did not read "laying down in urinals."--Wetman (talk) 02:24, 5 November 2010 (UTC)
 * Given his mythic status I was not going to include speculation. But the myth seems to accord with the reported practice.  Lying down in urinals was a sexual practice in itself in the academically reported material.  However, the myth seems to accord with the academic reports: in myth he simply lies down and soaks in the ambience.  (I am so glad I got the verb right, I double checked to see if you were being ironic!)  As far as notability goes, I remember there having been far more passing mentions in Sydney media, and there were Sydney Star Observer (a GLBT paper) items but they don't have deep searching.  I used a few academic databases with results from 1986 for the Sydney Morning Herald, but didn't get other hits.  SSO, while reliable, isn't online, and I suspect I'd be getting into primary-research territory.  Troughman is often mentioned in passing in chapters in non-academic books, but these appear merely to be stroking the myth rather than substantive coverage.  I suppose it makes for an interesting notability case, but from a Sydney perspective, with multiple independent reports beyond a single party or mythic expression, he's notable to me.  As far as censorship goes, I went for simple style, and used his own words for his sexual practice, highlighting only the most important moment in terms of myth rather than going into non-notable details.  Censorship didn't have anything to do with that writing, only an attempt to explain the encyclopaedic content.  I wrote the damn thing because I wanted to casually refer to him in a discussion of urinal practice, and didn't find a wikipedia hit. Fifelfoo (talk) 03:57, 5 November 2010 (UTC)