Talk:True Grit (1969 film)

Seven deadly sins
I removed the paragraph about the seven deadly sins because it didn't seem very credible; the seven deadlies are a fairly Catholic notion, and Mattie is about as Protestant as they come.Ilyaunfois 00:18, 10 November 2006 (UTC)

88.111.171.168 07:04, 22 November 2006 (UTC)≠Hello, as JW greatest fan I have read this article with interest, very factual until the last scene in True Grit. Mattie Ross gives Rooster her father's gun not the horse. He bought the horse from Stonehill after his horse was shot under him by Neds gang. While stating that " this is the first time I;ve had to cuss you" keep up the good work have only just found your site. mattieross—

I didn't see the paragraph about the seven deadly sins, so I'm not sure what you're talking about. However, you're right in saying Mattie was very Protestant. In the book, she was a Presbyterian and a strict Calvinist.97.73.64.169 (talk) 22:01, 18 March 2010 (UTC)

True Grit split
When folks are looking for information about True Grit, it's most likely they are looking for information about the movie, therefore, I would propose that the film article be retained on this article, and details about the novel be split to True Grit (novel). — WiseKwai 10:53, 1 June 2007 (UTC)
 * Thats some pretty brave talk for a one eyed wikipedia editor... —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.128.80.170 (talk • contribs) AFBorchert 12:32, 19 July 2007 (UTC)

True Grit Locations
I do not know if this should be added, but here is a youtube video showing some locations from the movie then and now http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0EUP9rOLf30 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 122.107.50.158 (talk) 01:18, 24 December 2009 (UTC)

It is obvious Oklahoma ( the I.T, then) was not used as the location, but Colorado. The book said: "the winter of 1880"; but it is obviously Fall until the very last scene.68.231.189.108 (talk) 19:32, 13 March 2010 (UTC)

Much of the book took place in the Winding Stair Mountains of Oklahoma. I agree the scenes in the movie bear little resemblance to that part of the country. The book also states there was "snow on the ground", but you don't see any of it in the movie. On the other hand, the town in the movie does look remarkably like Fort Smith, Arkansas, including the location of the jail and the courthouse.97.73.64.169 (talk) 21:58, 18 March 2010 (UTC)

"Booger-Man?"
It was "Boogie Man in the book. I Neville heard the term "Booger Man" as a child; nor do I find a reference to it any where. I don't know if the screenwriter took license or John Wayne.68.231.189.108 (talk) 19:32, 13 March 2010 (UTC)


 * It was "booger-man" in the book:


 * ""If I had a big horse pistol like yours I would not be scared of any booger-man."
 * "I am not scared of the booger-man. I don't know the way over there."


 * Page 56 (or Page 79) depending on which version of the book you have.


 * Maybe you read like you wrote the word "Neville"? > Best O Fortuna (talk) 01:59, 14 March 2010 (UTC)


 * PS: Try doing a |Google Book search and you find 613 instances of it. Maybe "any where" isn't the same as "anywhere"? > Best O Fortuna (talk) 02:12, 14 March 2010 (UTC)

Judge Isaac Parker and his marshals.
Judge Isaac Parker was a real person. He presided over the Federal Court in Fort Smith, Arkansas, and had jurisdiction over the Indian Territory. The movie depicts him as clean-shaven and bald. In real life, he had a full head of hair and a goatee beard. He was known as the "Hanging Judge" because he sentenced 160 men to the gallows. His marshals, like the fictional Rooster Cogburn, were often men of questionable character and backgrounds. As one writer put it, "[Parker] detested gunfighters, but he knew it took one to catch one." Unlike Rooster Cogburn, his marshals seldom shot to kill if they could avoid it. They were paid two dollars for each live prisoner they brought in, but nothing for dead prisoners.97.73.64.163 (talk) 01:39, 20 March 2010 (UTC)

Jeff Corey's age
"Jeff Corey, who played Chaney in the movie was 55 at the time and was clearly much older than that."

????? That doesn't make any sense. Did the writer mean to say "...was 55 at the time and appeared to be even older"? WilliamSommerwerck (talk) 16:40, 29 April 2010 (UTC)

Only movie where John Wayne curses?
Is True Grit the only movie where John Wayne used a curse stronger than "hell" or "damn"? I believe that "son of a bitch" are the strongest words he ever used in a movie role.Bill S. (talk) 04:32, 6 November 2011 (UTC)

Dollor age
Final paragraph of 'Production' seems to say that the two tear old horse had been Wayne's favourite for ten years. HPotato (talk) 19:22, 8 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Still does. This is such an oddly-written piece for a film article, starting with the cold plot summary. Seems to want to denigrate Wayne, the film's popularity, or both, although that's likely just my own prejudice talking. This film had virtually a cult following (because of Wayne) from its first run in theaters. But there is way too much work to be done here to overhaul, so good luck to some future editor.--Reedmalloy (talk) 10:48, 3 January 2016 (UTC)

Errors in the article; 'Plot' & 'Differences from Novel'
La Boeuf uses Mattie's horse to pull Cogburn and Mattie from the pit, not his own; which is why 'Little Blackie' is the only horse around to carry the two away (leaving the dead La Boeuf) on the dash back to McAlester's. La Boeuf had previously arrived at the camp on foot (left his horse somewhere unseen), and presumably one of the four gang members' horse was used by Cogburn to reach the camp from the site of the shootout (it was brown). There is no real explanation how Little Blackie gets to be there, probably brought up by Cogburn unseen (who is previously said by La Boeuf to have Little Blackie when asked by Mattie just after he has saved her). Alternatively it could be a continuity error and Cogburn should have been riding Little Blackie up to the camp after the shoot-out.

As an aside here, there are continuity errors in the film. For example, after the revolver mis-fires as Chaney tries to rush Mattie, it is not seen being picked up from the ground, yet a short time later, back at the camp, Chaney has it rather limply in his left hand (Chaney's rifle is seen being picked up).

Last paragraph of the plot section contradicts previous details as well as being plain wrong. Cogburn had already received the $75 balance of Mattie's reward - given by Lawyer Daggett (and an additional $200 for saving Mattie's life). I assume the final scene back at the graveyard by the farm occurs as Cogburn has fulfilled Mattie's request (made via Lawyer Daggett as a condition (?) on the additional $200) to take her home when she's well enough. In the mean time Cogburn comments that had been down to Wako, Texas to bury La Boeuf and claim the reward for the Bibbs murder (the Texan Senetor) by Chaney. He certainly wouldn't be getting that reward by visiting Yell County! It's not stated how much of the reward money for Chaney for the Bibbs murder he actually received.

It is stated in the article that in the film Cogburn regularly visits McAlester's; while that is true, the first place they visit (after Mattie has become part of the posse) is Bagby's (where Mattie and La Boeuf briefly discuss their respective demoninations).


 * I'm breaking a five year self imposed silence due to previous flame - unjustified IMO - from whatever the moderators are called around here; that's why I have not signed in or started a new account.** — Preceding unsigned comment added by 62.249.253.14 (talk) 20:30, 2 March 2013 (UTC)

--- 62.249.253.14 is partially wrong in the first point. Cogburn does arrive at Pepper's camp on 'Little Blackie' (it is black); but here and in subsequent scenes, Little Blackie is played by a different horse than in the early scenes. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 62.249.253.79 (talk) 09:21, 3 March 2013 (UTC)