Talk:Tudor rose

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Moved this because the capitalised "Tudor Rose" would indicate a brand name or the title of something. Deb 11:43, 25 Oct 2004 (UTC)

Chelsea F.C.
Their logo, is that allowed on this page? Mallerd (talk) 23:51, 22 May 2009 (UTC)

Technical terms - italics or quotes?
Some technical heraldry terms are in italics in this article and some are in ordinary type within inverted commas. Is there any norm for such heraldic terms? Plain text within quotes looks more natural to my eye, but I am no expert on the treatment of heraldic terms At all events, the practice should be consistent within the article. Tim riley (talk) 14:54, 29 March 2012 (UTC)
 * Italics tend to be used, since most heraldic terms are of foreign origin (old French, Latin, etc.). Zacwill16  ( talk ) 10:46, 10 July 2015 (UTC)

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Incorrect Identification
At the time of my writing, this articles contains the text

"The Tudor rose was used in the coat of arms of William, Count of Schaumburg-Lippe.[9]"

but if you trace Footnote 9, those aren't TUDOR roses. They have no white for petals. They are "Lancastrian roses" if his relationship to Great Britain is involved, or just "roses" if it isn't. They lack any white. That sentence is false and should be removed. Since Wikipedia might consider me to be too impolite for their rules if I do so, I shall refrain now from the strongest possible denouncement of that editor for intellectual incompetence when they have read this entire article and STILL failed to grasp the CENTRAL point, which is that "Tudor roses" MUST in some way include white from the petals of Yorkist roses.2604:2000:C682:2D00:4983:DD1:23A9:990 (talk) 01:40, 7 December 2018 (UTC)Christopher L. Simpson

Can the Gallery find examples of Tudor roses with split petals?
I believe that I have seen, although I cannot now find, at least one example of a Tudor rose with five petals, each petal divided by a radial line into a red half and another half that is, but for being colored white, the radial mirror-image. The PROBABLE explanation is an existing Yorkist rose with five white petals, rendered in a three-dimensional medium (not flat paint but stone, wood, or plaster) where it would have been very difficult (vs. the ease in flat paint) to add an entire new inner ring of five petals. That being the case, no sculptural change was made, and the rose was simply repainted with each petal split. (Before starting, one would see the impossibility of coloring petals alternating red and white without coming round to end with two adjacent petals of the same color.) It's rather like the plant that is, down the middle, half-rose, half-thistle, for the joining of England and Scotland (or the earlier joining of their Monarchies). I believe I have seen this split-petal Tudor rose. Can someone find one and add it to the Gallery? Thanks, if so.2604:2000:C682:2D00:4983:DD1:23A9:990 (talk) 01:40, 7 December 2018 (UTC)Christopher L. Simpson