Talk:Tulpa/Archive 1

Dream Yoga
I wrote this article from my own realization. Now I am finding scholarship and citation to authenticate. On waking this morning and starting to progress the Dream Yoga article and writing on the "yid lu" (Tibetan), the orthography "sprul pa" manifested unbidden in my mindstream. Vajrayana is profound. This is a blessing for me to not doubt my inner knowing, my 'gnosis' (Sanskrit: Jñāna).


 * A poem doubtless
 * To honour and commitment:
 * I dishonour due to humility and doubt.
 * I, today, am yielding the fruit of samaya.
 * Seminal dissemination!
 * Empty vessels: Bumpa are filled;
 * As full vessels: Kumbha empty.
 * To propagate, to cultivate!
 * Truth takes the form of the vessel
 * By WITCH it is housed!

Ah B9 hummingbird hovering (talk • contribs) 03:11, 1 February 2008 (UTC)
 * A further annotation to the above, I read the above again today and it doesn't convey why this experience was seminal. You see, at this stage in 2008 I didn't know Tibetan and I had no idea how a T could be yielded from a Spr but it still arose spontaneously in my Mindstream upon waking and it was heard as well as seen and felt, it was a unity of body-voice-mind-quality-activity experience. I know of such experiences in science under the rubric of hypnogogia that may entail auditory experience. B9 hummingbird hovering (talk • contribs) 13:37, 7 March 2010 (UTC))

Runemal: Runic Oracle
Consulting the Oracle of the Runes to access energetic processes supporting the emergence of thoughtform phenomena, three energetic signatures identified themselves as key:
 * [[Image:Runic letter isaz.svg|14x30px|i]] îsaz "ice"
 * [[Image:Runic letter jeran.svg|14x30px|j]] jera "year" or "harvest"
 * [[Image:Runic letter pertho.svg|14x30px|p]] perþô "chance, fate, orlog"

Ice = strange attractor

Harvest = factors, processes and resources that yield emergence

Chance = Orlog; birthing; holy well

These ruins in triune relate to the Norn (phase space): the spinners of Wyrd and/or the scourgers of the Tree of Time.

NB: All those oracular lies...they lay in ruins...they rest in Runes (pronounced "ruins")!

Thoughtform = yidam = imaginary friend = deity (God is no more [n]or less 'real' than human beings). Refer: (accessed: during Losar in Melbourne) B9 hummingbird hovering (talk • contribs) 01:45, 6 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Ice 'fixes' the Harvest 'fruit' of Orlog. B9 hummingbird hovering (talk • contribs) 14:16, 7 March 2010 (UTC)

Further exploration
tul: [Tib.] patterns = sprul

yang-tul: [Tib.] secondary tulpa = yang sprul

nying-tul: [Tibetan] tertiary tulpa = nying sprul

B9 hummingbird hovering (talk • contribs) 10:54, 1 February 2008 (UTC)

Carlos Castaneda
It should perhaps be noted that there is dispute over whether or not Castaneda's books are genuine. I would suggest make it more clear, instead of implying that Castaneda actually did create a Tulpa. It's not a legend, it's a contemporary work of fiction or non-fiction, depending on who you talk to. Dead Horse 18:57, 10 December 2006 (UTC)


 * I have removed the fiction tag and made some changes to reflect that some of his claims have been disputed.(Ghostexorcist 22:44, 10 December 2006 (UTC))

Many thanks Dead Horse 01:55, 12 December 2006 (UTC)

Proposal to merge with "Thoughtform"
I've observed that both articles cover pretty much the same topics, and even use both terms interchangeably almost all the time. Also, subsections concerning any of the terms are intermixed within both articles. I guess it would be sensible to merge those two and integrate all that properly, while removing duplicate information. I'm not sure which should be merget into which, so I'll leave that open to debate. There is also a possibility to sort both texts not to include duplicate materials, and those belonging to the other one... arny (talk) 11:02, 9 September 2009 (UTC)
 * I am the principal editor and contributor of both Thoughtform and Tulpa. They were indeed one article but a group of editors started to gang up on me and ritually cannibalized my work and separated them into two distinct articles. A Tulpa is a Thoughtform, but a Thoughtform is not necessarily a Tulpa. Hence, let the different articles play out their manifestation. Just to nail it, Tulpa is culturally specific; thoughtform is culturally generic, inclusive.
 * Svaha
 * B9 hummingbird hovering (talk • contribs) 00:20, 10 February 2010 (UTC)
 * I have removed the merge tag. B9 hummingbird hovering (talk • contribs) 13:21, 7 March 2010 (UTC)

External links failing WP:ELNO and sources failing WP:RS
Reviewing the external links below, none appear to meet the requirements of WP:ELNO or WP:NOTDIRECTORY. I have included them here for reference or in case anyone wishes to justify why they are a valid external link for this article in compliance with WP:EL: —Ash (talk) 08:39, 17 September 2009 (UTC)
 * Besant, Annie and C. W. Leadbeater. http://www.anandgholap.net/Thought_Forms-AB_CWL.htm Thought Forms. Illinois, USA: The Theosophical Society
 * http://www.swami-center.org/en/text/Juan_Matus.html The Teaching of Juan Matus
 * http://www.chaosmatrix.org/library/chaos/texts/gegregor.html Egregore Definition Compilation
 * http://www.mystae.com/restricted/streams/scripts/tulpas.html Thought Forms: Paranormal Materializations
 * http://home.tiscali.nl/gibbon/exploring/thoughtform-rating-scale.htm Thought Form Rating Scale: On Healthy and Less Healthy Thought Forms
 * http://www.swami-center.org/en/text/Juan_Matus.html The Teaching of Juan Matus
 * http://www.chaosmatrix.org/library/chaos/texts/gegregor.html Egregore Definition Compilation

rywiki.tsadra.org wiki
This is an open wiki and so fails to meet the requirements of WP:RS or WP:ELNO. The site is referenced multiple times in the text of the article. Would anyone care to justify why there is an exception to WP:RS or shall I remove references to this wiki site?—Ash (talk) 08:45, 17 September 2009 (UTC)
 * it is not an open wiki per se, unlike Wikipedia an editor needs to be registered... there is internal quality control, it is authoritative. Moreover, it is the Dharma Dictionary and it's seat is the University of Virginia
 * B9 hummingbird hovering (talk • contribs) 00:23, 10 February 2010 (UTC)

anandgholap.net
This site is the personally registered site of Anand Gholap of Pune, India. He has a disclaimer that he is not responsible for the use of anything on his site (http://www.anandgholap.net/Terms_Of_Use.htm). He makes no special claims of expertise or any affiliation. A number of texts and images from books are on his site but copyright status is uncertain as he does not have specific permission to make these public domain but has added these on the basis of his understanding of copyright law which is not the same as Wikipedia's. His site fails WP:RS and WP:ELNO and should not be used as a reference or link for any article apart from (possibly) an article about himself.—Ash (talk) 08:51, 17 September 2009 (UTC)

swami-center.org
The site is registered to Mikhail Nikolenko under the organization name of CERN (though there is no valid evidence that this means the well known research organization) and titled "Divine Way of Spiritual Heart". The site's about page (http://swami-center.org/en/text/about_us.html) is rather lengthy but does not make any particularly verifiable special claims of expertise or official status (apart from claiming to have created a new branch of science called "Methodology of Spiritual Development"). They do claim that their publications were created under the "direct guidance of God" but provide no verifiable evidence of God as an approving authority or third party evidence to substantiate this. The site fails WP:RS and WP:ELNO and should not be used as a link or reference on any article not directly about the swami-center.org site or organization.—Ash (talk) 11:30, 17 September 2009 (UTC)

Devanagari as "divine language of the god snakes (naga)
http://books.google.com.au/books?id=Q1C0yjQoN4AC&pg=PA1428&lpg=PA1428&dq=devanagari+god+snakes&source=bl&ots=xMbpoZPYN5&sig=E3OZQEUq9dbakX-HN0pGqScJQJk&hl=en&ei=o9uHTJbdEI-AvgORkYSTCQ&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=3&ved=0CB0Q6AEwAg#v=onepage&q=devanagari%20god%20snakes&f=false

In perfection. Beauford aka B9hummingbirdhovering