Talk:Tulsa metropolitan area

Collaboration Goals and Tips
''Note: these tips and goals are not official in any way, but simply suggestions from editors and can be discussed, changed, added to, or deleted at will. In fact, please add any and all suggestions -- anything!''

This article needs to come out of this as either a great B-class article, an A-class, or one that can be considered for GA Class!


 * Take a look at some of the articles under Category:Metropolitan areas of the United States to find well written examples that can be a guide for this article.
 * This should be like an article for a city and an article for a state combined, so not as specific as a city article but not as general as an article for a state.
 * Sections needed:
 * Cities
 * Sub-headings could describe either the first ring and second ring with subheadings for each city in the respective ring, or headings for direction from Tulsa (I.E. cities to the east, cities to the west, etc.) with further subheadings for each city.
 * Transportation (or infrastructure) in the Tulsa M.A.
 * Education in the Tulsa M.A.
 * RSU, NSU-BA, Northeast Technology Center, etc.
 * Economy in the Tulsa M.A.
 * This should be more of a description of regional economic value rather than each city's economic value.
 * Try to capture how the metropolitan area economy is as a whole. For example, manufacturing is important in the entire area and every manufacturing hub in the area is aided by the port of catoosa and the Tulsa airport, and other things. If I think of more examples I'll put them in.
 * Geography
 * Topography, climate, etc.
 * Recreation and tourism(?)
 * The suburbs are beginning to match the city of Tulsa in recreational opportunities, with Jenks and Sand Springs developments, etc.
 * The area has many lakes and state parks.

IMPORTANT REMINDERS

 * Think of the Tulsa Metropolitan Area as a whole. This article is about the Tulsa Metropolitan Area, and should not be thought of as an article about the cities or towns that occupy it. Try to consider the Tulsa Metropolitan Area its own entity, much like you would consider the state its own entity when writing about Oklahoma, instead of writing specific things about the counties that make up the state.
 * Green Country and the Tulsa Metropolitan Area are not the same. Try to not stray outside of the Statistical Metropolitan Area (the map is on the page). Whereas "Green Country" officially occupies all of northeast oklahoma, the census-designated "Tulsa Metropolitan Area" occupies only 7 counties (8 if the Tulsa-Bartlesville Combined Statistical Area is included). Okiefromokla•talk 18:42, 7 June 2007 (UTC)

Map
I've replaced the previous map, as the previous one showed the entire CSA as a single entity, despite being on the MSA article. The new one highlights the MSA in red, with Washington County (the only part of the CSA not in the MSA) in yellow. Nyttend (talk) 13:10, 26 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Thanks! Although the red/yellow contrast isn't very easy on the eyes. Would you re-upload with maybe red/light red or red/light orange? Okiefromokla questions? 14:14, 26 July 2008 (UTC)


 * In 2010, the definition of the Tulsa metropolitan area readded Mayes County, Oklahoma between the city of Pryor to the east and Siloam Springs, Arkansas on the state line. In 1980 to 1985, Mayes county was included in the Tulsa metro area until population decline there have made the census remove the county from the metro area. Washington county was added due to the economic growth in the north end of Tulsa, with an affluent city Bartlesville facing the Kansas state line. 71.102.30.215 (talk) 16:37, 10 April 2011 (UTC)


 * Do you have a citation for this definition? As of today, the Census Bureau web site does not include Mayes County. Hence, I deleted it and Pryor Creek from the info box.

Broken Arrow population
This page states: "Broken Arrow is the metropolitan area's second largest city, with 109,714 people in 2007."

The page on Broken Arrow states: "The population was 74,859 at the 2000 census. The 2008 U.S. Census estimates placed the city's population at 92,931."

Which is right? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Rvallenduuk (talk • contribs) 16:59, 7 February 2010 (UTC)


 * Overtaken by events. Populations for major cities have been updated to reflect the 2010 census. Bruin2 (talk) 00:28, 23 July 2011 (UTC)

Requested move

 * The following discussion is an archived discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review. No further edits should be made to this section. 

The result of the move request was: Move. Jafeluv (talk) 15:07, 21 April 2013 (UTC)

Tulsa Metropolitan Area → Tulsa metropolitan area – Conventional title for a metropolitan area. Buaidh 20:04, 6 April 2013 (UTC)


 * Comment There are very few sources that use the term at all. It would be better to fix the articles's sources so we can establish what the proper capitalization should be. Sionk (talk) 23:06, 6 April 2013 (UTC)


 * Support – might as well fix the case of this descriptive term, while considering other possible names. Dicklyon (talk) 03:41, 7 April 2013 (UTC)


 * Strong support and speedy close "Tulsa metropolitan area" is unquestionably the correct title format that Wikipedia uses, per precedent. See Los Angeles metropolitan area, Chicago metropolitan area, Pittsburgh metropolitan area, Miami metropolitan area, Seattle metropolitan area, and the many other United States "metropolitan area" articles. In terms of common name, the U.S. Census Bureau officially recognizes it as the "Tulsa metropolitan area" and the following list of quotes are examples of its usage in the media:
 * "The Tulsa metropolitan area will receive a $2.16 million grant from the U.S. Department of Homeland Security" Tulsa World
 * "New housing starts in the Tulsa metropolitan area increased 1.6 percent" The Journal Record (Oklahoma City)
 * "Single-family homes sales climbed 17.5 percent in May in the Tulsa metropolitan area" Chicago Tribune
 * "Gov. George Nigh says he remains committed to establishing a prison pre-release center in the Tulsa metropolitan area" The Durant Daily Democrat (Durant, Oklahoma)
 * "The crash was the second in the Tulsa metropolitan area in six weeks" NBC News
 * "Only 30 percent of respondents in the six-county Tulsa metropolitan area thought sending more troops would help" The Associated Press
 * "Five of the Thursday tornadoes, which hit the Tulsa metropolitan area" USA Today
 * "The first pilot effort will be launched in the Tulsa metropolitan area" Pryor Daily Times (Pryor, Oklahoma)
 * "About a half-inch of ice has encrusted the greater Tulsa metropolitan area" Bloomberg
 * --76.189.111.2 (talk) 10:05, 8 April 2013 (UTC)


 * Support per WP:NCCAPS. --BDD (talk) 16:24, 8 April 2013 (UTC)
 * Support per WP:NCCAPS and others' comments.--Cúchullain t/ c 14:12, 12 April 2013 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page or in a move review. No further edits should be made to this section.

Article classification
A great deal of work has gone into improving the content of this article since it was originally assigned a Start class. It certainly meets the criteria for Class C now, I have made the change accordingly for the Tulsa Task Force. Bruin2 (talk) 22:38, 1 July 2013 (UTC)

Naming of Areas
The MSA appears to be officially called Tulsa Metropolitan Area since at least 2013. Moreover, the 2020 guidance from the OMB only shows two Tulsa-related areas: Tulsa Metropolitan Statistical Area, and Tulsa-Bartlesville-Muskogee Combined Statistical Area ([Https://www.whitehouse.gov/wp-content/uploads/2020/03/Bulletin-20-01.pdf see this OMB bulletin]. Naming definitions must have changed so that Broken Arrow and Owasso no longer qualify to be included in the MSA name as component cities. -Furicorn (talk) 15:40, 28 March 2022 (UTC)

Muskogee and Washington
Washington county is in yellow but not Muskogee. 2A00:801:7AF:8C8:4284:7AF4:C88A:F864 (talk) 06:44, 3 December 2023 (UTC)