Talk:Tunnel of Love Express Tour

East Berlin Concert
The Article says 500,000, which whould be about 3.1% of the GDR's total population (then ca. 16,000,000). But I found the guardian has a headcount of 300,000 (source: http://www.theguardian.com/music/2013/jul/05/bruce-springsteen-east-germany-berlin-wall), which whould be like 1,9%. --78.53.32.26 (talk) 10:33, 17 April 2015 (UTC)


 * That figure was inserted by someone else. I've reverted back to the two most common estimates – 160,000 or 300,000 – and expanded the description of the show, included the Kirschbaum hypothesis about its effects, and made this into its own section in the article.  Wasted Time R (talk) 22:33, 18 April 2015 (UTC)

500 000 was reported in Many newspapers. Peter Larsson 77 (talk) 16:58, 3 October 2020 (UTC)

Springsteen was paid 1 million DDR mark for this concert and another 340 000 DDR markfrigång tv and radio rights. Malung it 1 340 000 DDR mark Peter Larsson 77 (talk) 17:07, 3 October 2020 (UTC)

I try to publish my source here but nothing happens. Also try to publish source for the tour grossing almost 50 million USD but the sources does not seem to come up Peter Larsson 77 (talk) 17:11, 3 October 2020 (UTC)

Is somebody afraid of Bruces gigantic earnings between 1987 and 1988 which was 61 million USD. Because I have source and everything but it does not get posted. Peter Larsson 77 (talk) 17:28, 3 October 2020 (UTC)

And yes 500 000 was reported by about 15 newspapers Peter Larsson 77 (talk) 17:40, 3 October 2020 (UTC)

Anyone seriens to have forgotten that the Born in the USA tour had much more arena dates than stadium dates. 109 arenas and 47 stadiums Peter Larsson 77 (talk) 17:56, 3 October 2020 (UTC)

Springsteen earnings 1987 1988
Bruce made 61 million USD between 1987 and 1988 which is relevant to this tour. I have source on that Peter Larsson 77 (talk) 17:34, 3 October 2020 (UTC) Book "Rocklists" by James Bernard page 25 and 26 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 193.181.64.129 (talk) 10:12, 6 October 2020 (UTC)

Tour grossing
Tour grossed almost 50 million USD in 67 dates. Peter Larsson 77 (talk) 17:37, 3 October 2020 (UTC)

I have source on that Peter Larsson 77 (talk) 17:37, 3 October 2020 (UTC)

References To East Berlin show
https://www.reddit.com/r/europe/comments/q4nc1l/bruce_springsteen_performs_in_front_500000_people/https://learngerman.dw.com/en/bruce-springsteen-an-icon-of-freedom-in-east-germany/a-50516661#

https://learngerman.dw.com/en/bruce-springsteen-an-icon-of-freedom-in-east-germany/a-50516661#

https://www.reddit.com/r/europe/comments/q4nc1l/bruce_springsteen_performs_in_front_500000_people/

https://9gag.com/gag/anQA8o5

https://www.livefromeurope.com/bruce-springsteen-performs-in-front-500000-people-in-east-berlin-1988/

https://www.picrail.com/l/q4nau0/bruce-springsteen-performs-in-front-500000-people About 15 sources about 500 000 people. So that figure as has Bern delivered by East Germans as well might be true

https://www.lvz.de/mitteldeutschland/bruce-springsteen-in-ost-berlin-im-juli-1988-die-stasi-hoerte-mit-5LWTM7IUADQX6552C2LGDLUU7I.html?outputType=valid_amp Article in German about the 1 million 340 000 East German Marks Springsteen claimed to play

https://www.koenau.de/2018/07/berlin-1988-springsteen-bricht-die-mauer.html?m=1 Anorher German article about the 1 340 000 East German mark Bruce received. I dont understand whats so strange about that. Hi stadium garantee fee in 1988 in western Europe was 1 million USD. À drastic step from the 500 000 USD he received in 1985 in Western Europe. Bruce charges a lot thats a fact. 2 concerts in Ireland in 2016 grossed over 18 million USD. The man is super rich. Good for him. I dont see the problem. Working Class hero or not he sold his music rights for close to 600 million USD so he is probably closing in om Paul McCartney as the richest artist of them all.

— Preceding unsigned comment added by 2A00:801:236:7E05:F9A7:D096:CAF2:7C7D (talk) 20:40, 8 September 2022 (UTC)

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radrennbahn_Weissensee# — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2A00:801:236:7E05:F9A7:D096:CAF2:7C7D (talk) 20:34, 8 September 2022 (UTC)

https://www.reddit.com/r/europe/comments/q4nc1l/bruce_springsteen_performs_in_front_500000_people/ 2A00:801:236:7E05:F9A7:D096:CAF2:7C7D (talk) 19:56, 8 September 2022 (UTC) https://9gag.com/gag/anQA8o5 https://www.livefromeurope.com/bruce-springsteen-performs-in-front-500000-people-in-east-berlin-1988/ — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2A00:801:236:7E05:F9A7:D096:CAF2:7C7D (talk) 20:06, 8 September 2022 (UTC)


 * Of all these links, only two of them qualify as reliable sources that Wikipedia can use, the Leipziger Volkszeitung story from 2018 and the Deutsche Welle piece from 2019. One gives 250,000 for attendance and the other alludes to the 500,000 figure; I have incorporated both into the article, with an attributed quote on the latter.  I have also included the 1,000,000 DDM and 340,000 DDM payment figures for the show.  Wasted Time R (talk) 12:21, 9 September 2022 (UTC)

Bruces guarantee and merchandize
Bruce had a guarantee of 95 % of ticket sales for this tour. Unheard of before and a LOT more than the Born in the USA tour. Merchandize prices had more than doubled sinne the Born in the USA tour, and a LOT more merchandize were available at this tour than the Born in the USA tour. Thats why Bruce could keep the tour short. He earned a lot more per concert. T shirts that had cost 5 USD on the Born in the USA tour were now 12,50 USD. Tour book also cost more than double the price. Than there were a lot more merchandize available. Besides T-Shirts and tour book, there were jackets, sweaters, tank tops, pins, rings, posters, and actually also binocullars for short people. Also t-shirts came in a lot of different versions than the standard one on the Born in the USA tour. So Merchandize gross was a lot higher on the Tunnel of love Express tour than the Born in the USA tour. The tour clothes were given to Bruce and the Band and the stage and lightning were cheaper on the Tunnel of Love Express Tour. That the stage and lightening were cheaper was because of a good business deal With the companies that offered them. 90.235.5.198 (talk) 19:20, 4 November 2022 (UTC)