Talk:Tupolev Tu-204/Archive 1

Conflict
Both this and Il-96 say that they were the first to introduce western engines. --80.63.213.182 16:18, 7 October 2006 (UTC) Ilyushin, on the other hand, failed to fruit their goal. The Pratt and Whitney Engines were put, but due to costs, the project failed. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 221.148.216.207 (talk • contribs) 3. dec 2006 kl. 13:03
 * Answer: Tupolev was the first to introduce the Rolls Royce Engines on their planes, and three were built and flying. The first engines were introduced in 1992.
 * The engines were introduced in 1993. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 152.149.73.56 (talk • contribs) 6. dec 2006 kl. 06:42

Clumsy English
Isn't this article a bit weird? It seems to me that the different words are mixed in a weird way. Example: Is currently under certification to JAA. The aircraft has cargo version which is successfully operated in Europe and Egypt. We normally don't make sentences without subject. And shouldn't there be an "a" before "cargo"? --Ysangkok 16:51, 28 January 2007 (UTC)

Well yeah, that must be some very bad English from a Russian Wikipedian. Zero76 11:30, 30 January 2007 (UTC)

At least he's adding to it, if he adds information than other uses can correct grammar. Professional Russian websites are no better, Antonov' site and ILC's both have somewhat dodgy English. --88.107.143.158 23:40, 4 June 2007 (UTC

Merge
Yes to merger Cuvette 04:22, 21 June 2007 (UTC)
 * YES to merger as well. I added a table to the Tu-204 page, and would like to include the 214 in it. Any thoughts?-- Rob NS  22:24, 25 June 2007 (UTC)

Definetely to merge!

Operators
Scirocco as an egyptian company... but their site ends on .ru... —Preceding unsigned comment added by 213.73.173.88 (talk) 09:39, 4 May 2008 (UTC)

Market penetration
What are their actual disadvantages or advantages over "western" designs or competitors (Airbus / Boeing)? These planes do not seem to have quite made it on the international markets (Europe / the Americas). Why? Are they not reliable enough, too loud, too expensive to fly, no spares or service available, wrong plane size (like 757?) or just too far out for western airlines to be considered? Like some weirdo had it lately: 'Don't fly Aeroflot, they'll down you any way.' - that sort of prejudice? - 194.246.46.15 (talk) 07:25, 27 June 2008 (UTC)

Tupolev 204 orders
Russian and Iranian officials have agreed to start negotiations on a contract for the delivery of 100 Tupolev Tu-204 and Tu-214 airliners to Iran, said Maxim Sysoyev, a spokesman for Russia's state-controlled United Aircraft Corporation. He said that the contract was expected to be signed later this year and the deliveries could start next year. The planes would be delivered over 10 years, he said. Russian news reports said the deal could be worth up to $2.5 billion. Iran has about a dozen Soviet-built Tu-154 airliners. In 2006, Russia negotiated the sale of five Tu-204s to Iran. Russia has maintained close ties with Iran and is building its first nuclear power plant in the southern port of Bushehr, which is expected to be launched later this year. If the deal with Iran goes through, it would probably mark the single largest order for Russian commercial planes in history, including during Soviet times. It also raises doubts about the ability of the nation's beleaguered aviation industries to fulfill the contract. The twin-engine Tu-204 and its Tu-214 version were designed in the late 1980s to compete with Boeing's 757, but just a few dozen of the planes have been built. The nation's aviation industries melted down after the 1991 collapse. Amid Russia's oil-driven economic boom of recent years, the Kremlin has put forward ambitious plans for the revival of the aircraft industry and aggressively courted foreign customers. --moved from main Tupelov page Buckshot06(prof) 23:32, 25 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Russia hopes to sell up to 100 passenger jets to Iran in what would be the largest such deal ever for Russia's aviation industry, officials said Tuesday.

Aircraft looks like...
I don't really think it looks like a Boeing 757 at all, to be honest. It is very similar to an Airbus 320, however. Why is this not mentioned? Is it because of the cold war reverse-engineering by the soviets, that everything still needs to be compared to the US?--Arrows98 (talk) 01:52, 3 July 2009 (UTC)


 * Both the A321 and the 757 are listed in comparable aircraft, no sure what that has to do with reverse-engineering. The 757 list the Tu-204. It looks like a 757 to me and is a comparable size to it and the A321, the A320 is bit smaller. MilborneOne (talk) 09:45, 3 July 2009 (UTC)

Operated by Atlantic Airlines
Atlantic Airlines (Coventry, UK) have 2 freighter versions powered by RB211s- I don't know how to edit the table. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.147.182.41 (talk) 19:44, 3 October 2009 (UTC)


 * The aircraft are not operated by Atlantic Airlines just operated for them by Cairo Aviation. MilborneOne (talk) 20:02, 3 October 2009 (UTC)

Western engine package
Was the 204 really the first to offer a Western engine package? Some Ilyushin IL-96 aircraft flown by Aeroflot were re-engined with Pratt and Whitney engines to help make them more acceptable to US customers getting on at JFK Airport in New York. Or is the article trying to say that the 204 is the first to be offered at the outset with a choice of non-Russia engines? Raryel (talk) 16:26, 23 May 2010 (UTC)
 * I'd like to know the answer too. Perhaps the claim "first Russian plane with Western engines" should be removed for now? Offliner (talk) 13:35, 27 November 2010 (UTC)

Correct English designation
The correct English designation of Туполев Ту-204СМ is Tupolev Tu-204SM NOT Tu-204CM. I have edited it (sorry I wasn't logged in when I did it).--TK1244 (talk) 21:20, 30 December 2010 (UTC)

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