Talk:Turkish archery

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The references seem to be more Arab than Turkish, and more generically Middle Eastern than either. I'd suggest merging this article with Archery, in a section on Middle Eastern archery form, and deleting this article.Richard Keatinge 15:19, 25 June 2007 (UTC)

Turkish archery takes its roots from central asian archery and is very different from middle eastern disciplines such as Arabic or Persian in terms of technique, equipment and historical evolution. Some elements of Turkish discipline were adapted by middle eastern cultures when Turks converted to İslam and migrated to Western Asia. So merging this article with general "archery" article under middle eastern section would be a great mistake and an orientalist generalisation. Do we merge kendo with fencing? Do we put judo under general "wrestling" article? Does japanese archery Kyudo have a specific article in this wikipedia or is it under south east asia section of general "archery" title?

By the way, references might be written in arabic but most of those books were written by Turks from Mameluke Empire which was a Turkic state. 78.184.37.139 (talk) 11:54, 5 June 2009 (UTC)

Nowadays the main language that everybody learns in Europe is English, back in the old days in the Middle East, and some parts of Central Asia, Arabic was the language of "science" and Persian was the language of "poetry". Turks wrote books in Arabic or Persian. Compare it to a German scientist of e.g. IT sector writing a book in English today.

The Turks started gradually to appear in the Middle East in the 8th cc and the following centuries. Before that the Arabs had primitive self bows and their main type of soldier used in warfare was the camel rider armed with lance and straight sword. — Preceding unsigned comment added by MMORPGgamer (talk • contribs) 16:56, 15 February 2011 (UTC)


 * Turkish archery has specific topics and concepts than regular archery, also it has historical importance. Maybe you can translate from the Turkish wikipedia. --Dr.tolga (talk) 00:21, 12 December 2011 (UTC)

I am the webmaster of tirendaz.com. I could not establish to what extend text were copied onto Wikipedia. Can someone please help me out with that? All in all, we do not have a problem with info from our site being published on wikipedia, as long as it is properly referred/quoted. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 176.27.18.14 (talk) 21:36, 17 July 2012 (UTC)

It was a complete cut and paste form what looks like a PhD abstract. If you click on history and look on an earlier version you an see and also restore. My advice is just to start another article. It doesn't have to include everything right away - the copy paste besides the copyright issue is just a lazy. I really did like the web site - thought it was informative and well done.Peter Rehse (talk) 00:22, 18 July 2012 (UTC)

Copyright problem removed
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 * Note, I have reduced this article to a stub to prevent it from being deleted altogether. The material cannot be copied from the above websites. The first one states clearly "© 2009 tirendaz". The second one (turkisharchery.info) does not have a compatible license. It does not allow commericial use. Editors are free to expand this article but you must do so in your own words. Voceditenore (talk) 13:59, 2 September 2012 (UTC)