Talk:Turkish lira/Archives/2012

Merge
I'm a bit lost when looking at these two articles, they contradict themselves a bit ("is" vs "was" for example"). I think both articles would benefit from a merge (especially since Turkey is using the "Lira" again). -- lucasbfr  ho ho ho 08:12, 2 January 2009 (UTC)
 * The articles have now been merged. --Informatico (talk) 11:45, 5 January 2009 (UTC)

Structure of the article
I'm not at all sure that it was a good idea to have one article covering the whole history of the lira. The infobox has been edited and reverted several times recently, with the question of whether it should include the para as a subunit of 1/4000th of the lira, which was true in the nineteenth century but not true of the late 20th century/21st century liras. -- Arwel Parry (talk) 23:04, 21 January 2009 (UTC)
 * I don't really see a problem here. The infoboxes are about the current incarnation of currencies, and the current lira (TRY) has no 'para' subunit. The article as such, however, may well cover the history of the currency, as well as previous currencies of that name. --Informatico (talk) 21:22, 24 January 2009 (UTC)

Semi-protection
OK, I've had enough of the recent constant IP vandalism to this article. It's now semi-protected for a month. -- Arwel Parry (talk) 17:58, 25 January 2009 (UTC)

Coin of 1 kuruş
Considering the composition of this coin —70% copper and 30% zinc— it's possible that it costs more to mint than its face value. Are there any plans to phase it out? Q43 (talk) 05:03, 2 March 2009 (UTC)

Persistent vandalism by anon editors in the 85.x.x.x IP address range.
OK, I have tried for a very long time to assume good faith, but an examination of the edit history of this article and related articles shows a long history of edits by IP addresses in the 85.x.x.x range which have continually been reverted. I have tried to assume lack of knowledge, rather than maliciousness, but this edit today to the Southwest Asia article, where the Turkish GNP and GDP figures were altered to astronomical values, and these edits to Malaysian ringgit has convinced me that the person who uses this IP address range is not acting with Wikipedia's best interests in mind, particularly with regard to currency articles. I therefore propose that the following action be taken: All anonymous edits from the 85.x.x.x address range, particularly those attempting to instate use of the "£" symbol, or state that piastres are a sub-unit of the current currency, shall be IMMEDIATELY reverted. -- Arwel Parry (talk) 12:52, 7 March 2009 (UTC)

Pound Box
I was wondering if we could add the "currencies named pound or similar" box. or would that be stepping on toes? NoWay555 (talk) 20:24, 11 November 2009 (UTC)

Hyperinflation
This article states "Turkey...has never suffered hyperinflation", yet the "hyperinflation" page this links to lists Turkey as an example. Shouldn't one of these statements be deleted?

16:38, 10 May 2010 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 168.156.40.253 (talk)

New Turkish Lira Time Period
Turkish Lira and YTL were currency in 2005. YTL was the only currency between 2004 and 2009. In 2009, it changed as TL. In 2010, Ytl has removed. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 212.253.148.230 (talk) 18:11, 24 January 2010 (UTC)

How about an article about the gold lira?
There are gold liras circulating even nowadays such as the ceyrek and the yarim and the tüm - why not mention or even an article? --188.99.185.19 (talk) 09:18, 6 October 2010 (UTC)

Completely wrong!

 * 1980 — 1 U.S. dollar = 0.0001 new lira
 * 1988 — 1 U.S. dollar = 0.0013 new lira
 * 1995 — 1 U.S. dollar = 0.045 new lira
 * 1996 — 1 U.S. dollar = 0.107 new lira
 * 2001 — 1 U.S. dollar = 1.65 new lira
 * 2004 — 1 U.S. dollar = 1.35 new lira

= COMPLETELY WRONG! (No "new lira" before 2005!) Böri (talk) 15:07, 23 January 2012 (UTC)


 * This article has clearly been completely POV edited to reflect someone's opinion that TL never suffered hyperinflation despite at one point being forced to use notes up to denomination 20,000,000. This retroactive pretence that new lire existed in the 80s and 90s is obviously part of this effort. Would suggest someone with greater knowledge on the subject edit the article to reflect the reality. Roobens (talk) 17:10, 27 January 2012 (UTC)


 * There was a hyperinflation! I can write the correct numbers from the Turkish newspapers-archive. Böri (talk) 16:30, 28 January 2012 (UTC)
 * I wrote the correct numbers now... (I'll look at the newspaper-archive later.) Böri (talk) 16:37, 28 January 2012 (UTC)


 * We are still using "New Lira"... (but now we call it just "Lira"!) Böri (talk) 11:03, 29 January 2012 (UTC)

Move proposal related to this article
There is a merge proposal that editors of this article may wish to comment on at Talk:Turkish new lira D O N D E groovily   Talk to me  05:09, 28 February 2012 (UTC)

New lira symbol
The first problem encountered here in Wikipedia is how the symbol should be rendered in the same pitch as the usual font size. And of course, that's going to be a universal problem: it doesn't seem to have been selected with computers in mind. The Euro symbol was. I'll put the Euro sign text character side by side with Wikipedia's Euro sign svg-image that's scaled down to the same size: €. See how they look very nearly identical. Now look at how the new lira symbol appears if it's scaled to the same size:. Those two tilted bars are just going to blur together. Maybe font designers will simply use a single bar, unless the Turkish government realizes the problem and re-thinks the symbol.--Farry (talk) 14:41, 1 March 2012 (UTC)


 * Anyway, here's my attempt to make a bit-mapped version, which is a somewhat inelegant way to get around the blurring problem, which actually doesn't look too bad (in my humble opinion) even though that's my first ever attempt at a bitmapped symbol. No doubt a font expert could do better: [[Image:Turkish lira symbol 8x10px.png|baseline]], [[Image:Turkish lira symbol 8x10px.png|baseline]]530, [[Image:Turkish lira symbol 8x10px.png|baseline]]9. I've put it in the template file that somebody created this morning, so you use it by inserting: TRY . --Farry (talk) 17:34, 1 March 2012 (UTC)


 * The template wasn't looking same as the original sign,i changed it.78.172.38.68 (talk) 17:27, 2 March 2012 (UTC)


 * I'll leave your change in the info box, but the currency sign at the top is intended to be inline with the text. Reducing the SVG image to 12px still leaves it far to large and it starts to become blurred and greyish. It doesn't work as an inline symbol: Turkish_lira_symbol_black.svg, Turkish_lira_symbol_black.svg. If it's made smaller, then the blurring becomes worse.  The point of an inline character is that it should be sharp. ALL currency symbols are changed slightly from their "official" description when they have to be fitted in the pixel-resolution at the small font size used on the web. Seriously, do you see any other currency symbol look huge and blurry? --Farry (talk) 23:16, 2 March 2012 (UTC)

World's first coin
Deleted this section as off-topic. This article is about the Turkish Lira. Meowy 23:04, 29 March 2012 (UTC)