Talk:Turnbull Thomson Park

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I can see this place from Google Earth, and there are some images too but copyrighted. I thought if I can get the measurements or blue print of it I can recreate it Google SketchUp8, render it and take some snapshots.

Nice image from NASA Earth Observatory Free to use  I can draw a yellow dot on it with Paint. :D

Found out this person User:Willuknight took the panorama image in Invercargill. We could request some more about the park from him.

Questions
Hi RexRowan. So sorry I've taken so long about this. I've got a series of questions/comments, if you don't mind. If you could let me know where you got the information, possibly from a source, I'd appreciate it. Otherwise, I've suggested a few removals, I'd like to know your thoughts.
 * "As a natural reserve, it has unique environmental and scenic value." - Is it a natural reserve? Does it have unique environmental and scenic value?
 * The council management plan kept on calling it as a reserve. Maybe they are confused, because I think it is not formally classified as a protected area.


 * "Right below it" - below implies beneath... but it's south of it, isn't it?
 * Yes, south.


 * "Its nearest city is Invercargill" - isn't it in Invercargill?
 * Yes, it should be in the city, but I got on this place first when I created the box:


 * "To its southeast, is Peacehaven." - is this worth mentioning? Peacehaven Village appears to be a retirement home.
 * Hehehe, is it? Old people and park, a good place to be. Ok, I will cut it.


 * "The Main South railway line and Otepuni Stream bisects the reserve in the middle from horizontally." - Horizontally? I think you could just say it bisects it.
 * Yeah, I didn't realize. I was trying to reword the sentence and repeated myself.


 * "A band of industrial segment on Otepuni Avenue creates a barrier between the two eastern parts of the park. On the corner of Lindisfarne Street and Otepuni Avenue, sits a sewerage pumping station." I think that's a little more description than is necessary, I'd suggest this is a bit removed.
 * No, no, I found a document from John Turnbull Thomson writing about cleansing of the city, he actually set up the sewerage system for the city. It's good to know.


 * "Visitors are mostly locals" - any evidence of this?
 * No, I guessed. My bad.


 * "It is also a ideal place for children playing and dog walking." - ideal is a weasel word, and I'd suggest you have a few too many examples at the moment.
 * Ok, taking notes.


 * Maintenance - have you got a source for these?
 * Yes, from the council plan.


 * The first paragraph of landscaping holds a little too much detail, I'd stop at "bordered by W St, X St, Y St and Z St". Otherwise, it could do with a little tidy and a bit more sourcing.
 * Ok, no problem. I added these on later on to expand it the original was in my own words with brief description.


 * Sports clubs, do you have evidence for each of these? I'd recommend a source for each.
 * The council plan has got them all. I found a few sources for the football clubs but the others are not very famous, but they are there.


 * History needs some sources, but I really like this section.
 * "As a matter of fact" should go (OK)
 * I'd suggest removing the names of the daughters, just referring to them as the daughters. (Sure)
 * "During World War II the land was used for growing crops due to the food shortage, and the cultivation of the land helped improve the turf condition for the playing areas." That's really interesting and would make a great DYK hook. Do you have a source for that? (Yes, in the council plan)
 * I really like the history of when things were built, do you have a source for them? We could possibly even expand the information about the building into the article, because they are unlikely to warrant an article of their own, but the would fit well here. It depends what info you've found on the buildings. (also in the council plan)
 * What's a "sealed" walking/cycling track? Is it just the type of paving? (I was wondering the same, maybe not open to the road.)

I hope that's not too scary! You've done a really good job, and I can see this being a good article. When I suggested it to the other editor originally, I was expecting about a paragraph of text and an infobox - I'm amazed at how much information you've managed to pull together. Worm TT( talk ) 11:10, 18 September 2012 (UTC)
 * Activities seems to be restating something from earlier, but that isn't an issue if we make the first section into the article lead. We will need sources though. (OK)
 * Geology, you've diversified slightly into geology of Southland. Try to keep focussed on the park, which might have slightly different geology and ecology, given that it's been landscaped as part of a city. For example, I'd be unhappy with the implication that there is gold under it! Having said that, this information would be great to add to the Southland article. (Yes, the park is too small to have these sections in it.)
 * Ecology, similar to geology, you've gone slightly off topic. I like the first sentance, which plausibly refers to the history of the park, but the rest doesn't appear correct as it's about the Southland in general. Unless you've got any evidence that we can find these species in the park itself, I think much of it should really go. (Sure.)
 * Similarly with the gallery. (Pick and choose, the birds are famous in New Zealand's biodiversity, read the first section in the New Zealand article.)
 * I'm curious about the Miscellaneous section. Is that from a news article, or a letter to a newspaper? It doesn't really seem very relevant, but might point to what sort of trees are in the park. Can you let me know where you got that from? (Council plan again)
 * Much of the further reading is more appropriate for the John Turnbull Thomson article, not the park article. I also don't recommend people read something I haven't read, because it might not be relevant. If you've got a reason to think it's relevant (a review perhaps?) then fine, but otherwise I'd say take it out. (Ok, I will move them.)
 * You've got some External links which I'd suggest removed. Keep focus on the park. (OK)
 * Finally, the image in the box. I'd really hope for a picture of the park, rather than that space image of New Zealand. I'd recommend that picture is removed. (OK)


 * Not at all, I will go through the list bit by bit. My source is mainly from the council plan and Teara. Thank you for the praise! You are a good mentor! :D -- RexRowan 忍( Ninja signal ) 11:39, 18 September 2012 (UTC)