Talk:Tuvia Grossman

Who took the picture?
The Associated Press is not the photographer, so who is? I think that this is very important especially with the growing scandal of staged and faked photos in Lebanon and the long history of staging photos in Gaza during the Israeli-Arab conflict. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 64.131.184.152 (talk • contribs)

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BetacommandBot (talk) 22:26, 13 February 2008 (UTC)

Did anyone find out who took the photo?
I agree with the original poster, the photographer had to be aware of what was going on, wrote the erroneous caption and had some hand in the misrepresentation! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.217.205.143 (talk) 13:30, 9 March 2014 (UTC)

The focus should be the Border Police officer, and we don't even have his name
Gideon Tzefadi is the Israeli-Hebrew translation of his name. The Druze have Arabic names. It must be Jidun as-Safadi. Not the same, as Ibrahim isn't quite the same as Abraham/Abram/Avrum, now is it? Shameful.

In my view (or is it: in any thinking person's?), the story is supposed to be about a) anti-Israeli bias reflected in a wrong caption, and b) the non-Jew saving a Jew. Am I wrong? And then making the Wiki article about Tuvia Grossman, the man saved by the officer, is simply wrong. (That's me pretending not to understand where it comes from. This is all run by some hasbara pressure group, the actual human story is just a pretext and gets lost in the process. Grossman is Jewish, so he gets 90% of the coverage.) Not getting the officer's name right is truly shameful. Hebrew has the excuse of not using vowels, but Hebrew-speaking Israelis generally tend to casually change non-Hebrew names to more familiar, Hebrew versions; integrated non-Jewish Israelis are also often using "Hebraised" vesion of their given name in Hebrew-speaking environments (but it doesn't normally apply to surnames). However, none of that is an excuse for somebody researching the story for publication, not in Hebrew and certainly not in English. It's a lack of respect for the non-Jewish officer.

The officer hardly gets an afterthought-like mini-paragraph at the very end. Altogether shameful. Arminden (talk) 13:18, 20 October 2020 (UTC)


 * We should get his name correct if feasible, but I'm not sure why the article should be about him -- he wasn't misidentified... AnonMoos (talk) 22:07, 21 October 2020 (UTC)
 * The source has his name as Gidon Tzefadi (not Gideon), so that is what we should have in the article because we can only report what the source says. If an additional source can be found with a Druze spelling, it would be great to add that as well. – Elizabeth (Eewilson) (tag or ping me) (talk) 14:27, 2 September 2022 (UTC)