Talk:Twenty-one Conditions

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A twenty-second condition
From Victor Serge's Memoirs of a Revolutionary (p. 108 on the edition available on the Internet Archive):

"The Congress [laid down] twenty-one stringent conditions for the affiliates of the International, or rather twenty-two: the twenty-second, which is not at all well known, excluded Freemasons".

After a cursory search it seems that this was at least proposed by some members of the Italian Socialist Party during the Congress (for example, Serrati on July 23 and Balabanova and Graziadei on July 29), and was perhaps adopted, but it's unclear how it should be seen in relation to to the other conditions.

Is there any other source discussing this? Daydreamers (talk) 14:29, 9 October 2022 (UTC)