Talk:Twm

Pronunciation
A suggestion for the article: could someone add a note on how to pronounce twm? I say "tomb" to rhyme with the Welsh word cwm (as in Cwm Rhondda) but I really have no idea. --Northernhenge (talk) 22:30, 11 April 2008 (UTC)


 * I just pronounce each letter individually. :P Pegasus &laquo;C&brvbar;T&raquo; 06:35, 18 September 2008 (UTC)


 * I've never heard it described other than as "T-W-M" - David Gerard (talk) 10:43, 4 December 2008 (UTC)

New name
Timeless Windows Manager - that's "Windows", not "Window" - is the name in X.Org git at http://cgit.freedesktop.org/xorg/app/twm/ ... let's see if they change it ;-p - David Gerard (talk) 00:02, 25 January 2009 (UTC)

Misinformation
After many years of being unmaintained, twm is now being maintained and updated in the X.org distribution by Eeri Kask as the "Timeless Windows Manager."

Eeri Kask is definetly not the current maintainer, in the cited mailing list post he said he would look into it but he has never been heard of again.

Neither is the codebase unmaintained, twm has not seen significant changes in many, many years but received a handfull of bugfixes from time to time

The last paragraph should be deleted.

Sources: http://cgit.freedesktop.org/xorg/app/twm/log/ http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/xorg —Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.196.196.209 (talk) 17:27, 14 October 2009 (UTC)

Standard?
If something like twm is rarely used anymore, can it really be considered the standard? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.117.239.16 (talk) 19:08, 7 November 2009 (UTC)
 * Sure. Ever heard of ed? inclusivedisjunction (talk) 12:15, 29 December 2009 (UTC)

It is still used. On servers which have a GUI (most are text based though) they generally just install the core X, xterm, and twm (maybe xdm as well) in order to use tools such as the graphical system-config-* under redhat. Its much less bloated than gnome etc... —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.23.50.232 (talk) 23:40, 24 January 2010 (UTC)

Requested move

 * The following discussion is an archived discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. No further edits should be made to this section. 

The result of the move request was: not moved. Favonian (talk) 19:12, 28 February 2012 (UTC)

Twm → Timeless Window Manager – There are more people who use a Tiling Window Manager than people who use Timeless Window Manager. Therefore, it should have priority in using the abbreviation Twm. This abbreviation is already often used for Tiling Window Managers, and people who look it up will be confused. I will link the articles through hatnotes. 81.71.110.7 (talk) 19:44, 21 February 2012 (UTC)
 * Strong oppose WP:COMMONNAME is "twm" with it not meaning anything. Ask most people familiar with X11, and twm is this window manager, and it's pre-Motif pre-OpenLook pre-CDE pre-GTK pre-KDE toolkit. 70.24.251.71 (talk) 04:49, 22 February 2012 (UTC)
 * "Most people familiar with X11" seems like an overexaggeration: it depends to which degree they're familiar with it. I doubt most of the people familiar with it to just any degree would tell me the same. Most people just have it installed but don't use it, and have perhaps never done so either. I'm sure that if I ask the right person, they'll tell me the same as you. But what's more important: which use was older, or which use is more popular? The article itself says that Twm now stands for Timeless Window Manager, so, even disregarding where this page redirects to, Timeless Window Manager is a better title for this article. Can this at least get the same treatment as Gentoo and be a disambiguation page? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.71.110.7 (talk) 12:59, 22 February 2012 (UTC)
 * Strong oppose per WP:COMMONNAME (most sources refer to twm as twm, and not as Timeless Window Manager) and principle of least astonishment (the executable of twm is called twm, as are the packages and menu items in the window managers that allow switching WM). And I've never seen tiling window manager referred to as twm. — Dmitrij D. Czarkoff (talk) 01:32, 23 February 2012 (UTC)
 * Oppose. No evidence that titling window manager is ever referred to as "twm", much less that this occurs often enough to be a consideration here.  Even if there were such evidence, that would suggest making Twm a dab page.  --Born2cycle (talk) 00:23, 28 February 2012 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.