Talk:Two Worlds (video game)

Sequel
Someone should mention that a sequel is in the works...I'm not exactly qualified, since I don't have much information on what's going on with it. 62 Misfit (talk) 02:35, 28 July 2009 (UTC)

edits (heading added by87.102.14.233 16:05, 30 August 2007 (UTC))
The introduction to this article is appalling. It sounds like the creator themselves typed it out, POV and hyperboles galore. Don't get me wrong, I love the game and enjoy it very much, but this intro is SO complementing, when one reads it it instantly comes off as an exaggeration. This kind of introduction is doing the game no favours. GBobly 23:17, 23 August 2007 (UTC)

This article needs a complete overhaul. Spelling, grammer, the works. 01:01, 19 April 2007 (UTC)

After taking WP:CP and WP:BB into consideration, I've decided that the best course of action is to reinstate the last version of the page with everything that is probably a copyvio from the official website stripped out. guiltyspark 16:42, 27 April 2007 (UTC)

Comparison?
Why is the game being compared to Oblivion or other RPGs in just about every second paragraph? I can see the similarities, but this is an encyclopedia entry, not a review! --89.139.141.55 (talk) 20:29, 30 January 2008 (UTC)
 * This is a heavy theme in secondary sources (Which are mostly reviews). However the article should focus on the game itself and not how it compares to product x.--Crossmr (talk) 22:53, 30 January 2008 (UTC)

Reception?!
I thought this game was poorly received by the mass media? I remember Gamespot giving it a 7 or something along those lines, but most reviews listed are perfect 10s. I know for a fact Gamespot didn't give this game a 10, it's only given a few games 10/10 in its entire history. A game THAT good would have a much more in-depth Wiki page, and, frankly, I would have it and be playing it. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 131.109.99.2 (talk) 15:30, 12 September 2007 (UTC)


 * Maybe thats because it WASN'T praised as you imply... Stabby Joe 12:44, 15 September 2007 (UTC)

Gamespy totally ripped the game in its review: they gave the game 1/5 stars and eviscerated it in the review.

Which is deserved, This game branded itself as "Oblivion on steroids", if thats true then Fuck knows what oblivion would be like on anti depressants, After buying this game i took it back to woolworths, said it was broken, got a fresh copy and refunded that for my £40 which were totally wasted and much better spend on The shivering isles frankly. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 90.207.77.86 (talk) 09:11, 30 October 2007 (UTC)

Fansites
Why are they not allowed? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 87.49.59.140 (talk) 16:09, 6 May 2007 (UTC).
 * They are by no means 'not allowed', however please see: here and here. The gist seems to be that include external links if they add something not in the article, or are being used as a source, but not just because they are a site related to the subject. In this case, if a reader wanted to find a fansite they would be better off using google. If there are no further objections I will remove the links again in a week guiltyspark 13:56, 7 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Okay, you are harsh in your judgement, but perhaps it is necessary if we want to have Wikipedia as an accepted source of information. Personally I see no reason to delete the fansites, because they add something substantial to further exploration, which is a help to the reader. Only two English Two Worlds websites exist so I don't see them posing any spam threat either, but it isn't something I will "fight to the death" to have included, so if you judge the fansites reference not necessary then OK. 87.49.59.140 18:48, 8 May 2007 (UTC).

Release date?
The article says the release is in June 26th, but in the official website it says "PC game in the stores as planned on 9th May" in a post dated May 3th, but the console version won't get out on that date. So, was the PC version released on May 9th or not? They already have a patch for the game there, so I'd say yes, but I can't be certain of it. --M.A. 09:35, 11 May 2007 (UTC)


 * Conflicting ideas. Patch 1.1 is out and some people seem to already have their hands on the game though it's not out in shops yet. Beta?
 * It's not in beta, the website lists it as having been released in Germany on the 9th of May, and this is confirmed by amazon.de. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 129.2.202.140 (talk) 19:46, 11 May 2007 (UTC).

The PC version was released in Germany at the 9th of May 2007 but the rest of the world won't receive the game until later. It differs from country to country. The 26th of June is the release date in North America and the UK. The X360 version has been delayed indefinitely and hasn't even been released in Germany. 87.54.65.173 17:46, 12 May 2007 (UTC)

I found the release date description to be incredibly confusing. The article could use a release-date-by-country breakdown like many other games have on wiki.71.178.239.55 05:57, 14 May 2007 (UTC)

US version isn't coming out til August http://www.eurogamer.net/article.php?article_id=77777. JAF1970 21:17, 14 June 2007 (UTC)

Gameplay
Having played the game I included some information on gameplay.

I've included character creation, movement and basic gameplay, if anyone feels they can expand, please do. GBobly 12:35, 13 May 2007 (UTC)

Misc
"Two Worlds is a 3 Dimensional Role-Playing Game which has often been compared to both Diablo and The Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion." Logical...Error...Does...Not...Compute... —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.174.5.23 (talk • contribs)

Seconded. Has anyone actually played either of those games, or is someone just throwing in RPGs that had received good reviews? 131.30.121.23 22:17, 18 June 2007 (UTC)
 * It's definately been compared to oblivion (many times), as for diablo I've haven't seen many comparisons. All the previews mention oblivion (large map, 3d role playing fantasy world) - the two games are without doubt of the same type.83.100.251.27 13:12, 21 July 2007 (UTC)

Someone might want to mention that while the game only installs on XP or newer systems, it plays fine on win2k. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.153.102.50 (talk) 07:34, 5 September 2007 (UTC)

I did not add either, but I played both of those games, and on the fan forums it is wildly considered "Diablo's spirtual successor" if you will. I own Diablo, Oblivion and Two worlds, and all three are similar, but it reminds me of Diablo than anything else.Stimulatedmonke 17:45, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

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 * You should've used the image's own discussion page for arguing of such things and not some article's that uses the said image, I think. --M.A. 07:12, 5 June 2007 (UTC)

Marketplace Demo???
Any ideas on when they might have a marketplace demo for xbox360, or if they will even have one at all? PS real funny on changing my name --Damion Nickolai 06:53, 9 June 2007 (UTC)
 * [] there is mention of a demo available from 21st aug. Doesn't say what for though...87.102.93.50 16:07, 4 August 2007 (UTC)
 * http://www.worthplaying.com/article.php?sid=44911&mode=thread&order=0 seems to say yes for xbox 360..87.102.34.140 09:22, 6 August 2007 (UTC)

New Release Date
Hey guys, I corrected the North American Release date. It was pushed back another week to the 21st.

Dcluett 07:11, 8 August 2007 (UTC)

Actually, it is the DEMO release date.--Sherk 23:29, 11 August 2007 (UTC)
 * according to http://www.southpeakgames.com/TwoWorlds/TwoWorlds.html it's already out 14/8/07 US and 10/8/07 UK (the 8 is august) - that said I haven't seen it in the shops yet - GAME (retailer) is quoting the 31st of Aug..87.102.66.187 16:52, 14 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Checking topwares site gives 9/07 - I'll add that for now..http://www.topware.com/game_projects/project.php?l=en&game=1887.102.66.187 19:21, 14 August 2007 (UTC)

Massive revert
I had to revert a big edit on 20th aug 2007 - because the info is just copied directly from the website. (Which can be considered copyright violation)

Also 'best buy' may not be the best source for release date if we have an official date..or not?87.102.2.76 10:51, 20 August 2007 (UTC)

New Release Date info:
Hollywood Video is showing the game as releasing on 21 August. This is not as per a website or anything, but straight from a friend in management at Hollywood video, so if they are planning to have it on the shelves tomorrow, I would say that's pretty accurate. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Special:Contributions/ (talk)
 * That sounds fair enough - the publishers haven't really kept their websites up to date regarding the release date so we'll just have to wait and see - according to southpeakgames it's already out!87.102.2.76 19:26, 20 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Zuxxez site says 5/9/07 so if it isn't out tomorrow that will be the new date...87.102.2.76 19:27, 20 August 2007 (UTC)

Multiple online sites say 8-24-07. Check Gamespot and IGN. "My buddy works at Hollywood Video" falls under WP:NOR, No Original Research. And yes, the game IS out and has been out for over a month... in Germany. So the Southpeak is correct, just not on a English language Wikipedia article except as a foot note. BURNyA 19:54, 21 August 2007 (UTC)
 * This site (SouthPeak Games) http://www.southpeakgames.com/TwoWorlds/TwoWorlds.html says it's already out in UK,US and AU
 * Whereas this site (official two worlds http://www.2-worlds.com/) says 29th for UK.87.102.18.211 12:19, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

I just checked the official website and it said that Two Worlds is coming out on the 29th. LedZeppelin84 05:19, 23 August 2007 (UTC)


 * Just my 2 cents: It's been out in Germany for a couple of months now (it was released V.1.0 and is now in 1.5 so yeah, quite a while :P Think of it as a nation-wide Beta test. This means that some sites say it's released and some say it isn't (the German version isn't only in German so some English sources state it as released). GBobly 23:17, 23 August 2007 (UTC)

And now this (uk) 7/9/07 http://www.eurogamer.net/article.php?article_id=8201387.102.79.29 12:43, 24 August 2007 (UTC) I assume that it did come out in the US today - anyone know?87.102.79.29 12:51, 24 August 2007 (UTC)


 * I don't know if the release was the 24th or not, but I picked up a copy on the 26th, so it has been released in the US (StarkeRealm 22:29, 29 August 2007 (UTC))
 * Probably right then..87.102.14.233 09:57, 30 August 2007 (UTC)

gameplay
I made some sections into subheadings of gameplay, seemed like the right thing to do.

Looks like the 'factions' section is a bit long - we don't need a game guide.. As the game has only just come out I'm not changing it yet since it's still in an embryonic stage..83.100.249.228 15:37, 1 September 2007 (UTC)

Reception: Nice try...
I've noticed the previously balanced reception section has been turned into a overlly positive section even though this game wasn't as popular as this article indicates... if you're a fan don't start doing this... the truth is it wasn't praised much. Interesting tactic by just adding the German scores although most people reading these would care about English scores. Stabby Joe 12:31, 15 September 2007 (UTC)

edits..
I removed some excess info, and after that couldn't see any 'peacock terms' so I've removed that template..87.102.10.230 13:49, 16 September 2007 (UTC)

There were also some 'weasel type' stuff(s) in the 'reception' section so I've changed that a bit.

Does anyone want to add a section listing the main criticisms of the game - ie why many people gave the game less than 2/10 ...?87.102.10.230 13:55, 16 September 2007 (UTC)


 * I would but the way editting has been working, it seems most edittors here are fans and want it to sound as good as possible, IE outway the bad... even though there were plenty of negative critisisms, IE biased. Stabby Joe 21:29, 16 September 2007 (UTC)0

Overall
This page reads very much as a review -- and a positive one at that. Every section seems to describe the game positively, regardless of actual opinion. This entire article needs to be re-done, with opinions/reactions added at the end.

On playstation 3
Where's the mentioning about the game on the PS3? I came across Two Worlds on the list of PS3 games,  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Atreusk (talk • contribs) 01:56, 22 December 2007 (UTC)
 * Actually that list refers to the expansion as being on the PS3. However, it hasn't been confirmed by the publisher, and is only a speculative listing by Gamespot and gamestop .--Crossmr (talk) 14:24, 31 December 2007 (UTC)
 * That's why I removed the PS3 category, at least for the moment. Punkalyptic (talk) 20:31, 20 May 2010 (UTC)

Kit Rae
I know many of Kit Rae's designs are in the game, but has anyone commented on the fact that a lot of the mythos seem the same too? How much money is he raking in off of two worlds, perchance? Plenty, I hope. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.44.29.49 (talk) 06:53, 10 February 2008 (UTC)
 * http://www.google.com/search?q=kit+rae+two+worlds&rls=com.microsoft:en-gb:IE-SearchBox&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&sourceid=ie7&rlz=1I7GGLL_en-GB
 * You could e-mail and ask if you must know. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 77.86.67.245 (talk) 20:43, 25 April 2009 (UTC)

Release dates/regions
Please differentiate between the Xbox and PC release dates in the infobox. Thanks. SharkD (talk) 01:43, 6 September 2008 (UTC)

Voice acting by Reality Pump Staff? Unlikely.
The article states: "The game was criticized for its poor [...] voice acting, which was done by Reality Pump staff rather than professional voice-actors." I read the source for this statement but it's still rather unlikely. Reality Pump Studios is a rather small Polish developer so it's unlikely that they did the voice acting themselves. Also the list of voice actors is surprisingly long and there is only British or American names which certainly are not part of the game's actual team. In Reality Pump's staff there might of course be some English native speakers with corresponding names but the list is simply too long and the acting (despite being pretty bad) too professional. --94.223.89.252 (talk) 13:01, 15 August 2011 (UTC)

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