Talk:Tyler Ward

Cleanup tag
Could I please be linked to the appropriate section of WP:MOSNUM? Cheers, Riley Huntley talk No talkback needed; I'll temporarily watch here. 00:34, 22 July 2012 (UTC) Cheers, Riley Huntley talk No talkback needed; I'll temporarily watch here. 00:34, 22 July 2012 (UTC)
 * My mistake. I meany WP:NUMERO and there are no issues with that. Will remove. --Walter Görlitz (talk) 01:23, 22 July 2012 (UTC)

Birth year
I have no idea why this article is currently stating two different birth years, but it is something that needs to be properly sourced and addressed. Thank you. -- WikHead (talk) 00:37, 1 August 2012 (UTC)

Were did you found the information about his birth year? Because I found out, that he was born 1989. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 91.57.127.26 (talk) 23:54, 26 February 2013 (UTC)

The Band issue
Tyler Ward is known to work with many singers across YouTube as well as his created crew of his band he met in 2007 and his friends Alex G, Eppic and so on... He has also produced all of his music and songs for those like Katy McAllister. Like all bands, the members should show or at least the information about them like their names because the information you revise too deletes not only the band segment but also the page loses a lot of important information... Stop deleting it, if you wish to lose the band segment on the right, at least add to the associated acts and add that he is in a band and whom he works with, although i doubt those who are screwing around with this page wouldn’t even know who Tyler Ward is anyway, or else you would leave it alone. We can all agree we are not going to create a page just for his band which would have literally the same exact information on it excluding Tyler’s background

Cheer's. Joetri10. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Joetri10 (talk • contribs) 18:17, 4 August 2012 (UTC)

Page will stay incorrect and vandalized i guess then... Can i request deletion? Because there’s no point having a vastly incorrect and empty Wikipedia page about Tyler and his apparent non-existent band. Not my fault. Joetri10

What have you done Mike -.-... You might aswell finish the job mate. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Joetri10 (talk • contribs) 19:24, 4 August 2012 (UTC)

Looks like the page is going to stay in its vandilized state now, amusing that the "mod" deleted everything and then claimed it lacked a lot... Obviously. For all those on facebook who have been requesting me to help with the issue and gave me information and the sources, im sorry i wont be able to put them up . — Preceding unsigned comment added by Joetri10 (talk • contribs) 00:18, 5 August 2012 (UTC)

Revision 505832074 reverted by MikeWazowski
MikeWazowski, could you please explain why you reverted this edit? Specially since you did not explain in the edit summary. Also, you messed up the multiple issues template. Either way, please explain your actions next time. :-) -- Cheers, Riley Huntley  talk  No talkback needed; I'll temporarily watch here.  07:25, 5 August 2012 (UTC)

Don’t hold your breath, he's determined to get the page deleted by all means necessary since he found it. Joetri10 (talk) 13:16, 5 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Really? Would you like to explain your borderline personal attack, since I have made no edits involved in deleting the article? MikeWazowski (talk) 15:55, 5 August 2012 (UTC)

You reverted to a revision that had basic information missing in which i actually pointed out to you in your talk page, that which you deleted without reading it im presuming, all while deleting segments of the page until there was nothing left and then went to put down warnings on the page because of the lack of information and then later breaking the templates as noted above. If you were so upset about what was posted, you could of asked for the references. These are not personal attacks. Joetri10 (talk) 17:05, 5 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Mike, please communicate with us (or atleast me). Where do you see orginal research? As I noted, every sentence is referenced and there are several non-sale primary references. -- Cheers, Riley Huntley  talk  No talkback needed; I'll temporarily watch here.  04:08, 9 August 2012 (UTC)
 * The first three sentences in the career section have no sources - therefore, the original research tag is valid. As long as YouTube links are in the article, especially ones to his pages backing up certain claims, the primary sources tag is incredibly relevant. In spite of the wealth of links provided, I still don't think they indicate notability, and as long as the AfD runs, this tag should remain as well. I'm borderline on adding an unreliable sources tag too, as certain references are presented falsely, such as the Ellen one - the actual title of the linked page makes NO reference to Ward, although whoever added the link changed the title to make it appear as if it did. MikeWazowski (talk) 13:29, 9 August 2012 (UTC)
 * I am sorry that the references were at the end of the paragraph instead of at the end of the sentences, they have now been moved. Regarding the youtube references, for almost each youtube reference there is an another reference behind it that confirms it. I don't know why you are bringing up nobility because I agree with the tag and I am not trying to remove it. "the actual title of the linked page makes NO reference to Ward" - Technically, the video should say "Christina Grimmie & Tyler Ward perform 'How To Love'" since they are both equally signing the song, but either way, the title does not need to have the persons name in it as long as the text/video mentions the name. -- Cheers,  Riley Huntley  talk  No talkback needed; I'll temporarily watch here.  18:40, 9 August 2012 (UTC)

Im sorry, i mean no offence but in regards to that Ellen link, are you blind or just that incapable of understanding very basic websites. It clearly has a video (with a screenshot of him!) where if you click it, you will see Ward, infact he's in the very frame so does it matter at all what the title says. If you don't like the guy, just say because your arrogance is building... Joetri10 (talk) 16:43, 9 August 2012 (UTC)

Regarding Information We Can Add
So with the page not being deleted now yet still being lackluster, I’d like to know what we can in fact add to this now...

Ofcourse there will be his upcoming album information in some months to come that may prove to be very notable for Tyler but what about his work touring work, his band information (including who he has worked with from YouTube, some whom have their own Wikipedia page too and the snippet we have about his Football life..

There is also his basic information that is still missing like his age, years active, full name etc..

I can provide the references but i need to know what we can add before i just add information for it later to be taken down for things i still don’t really understand... Thanks

Joetri10 (talk) 00:35, 14 August 2012 (UTC)

Why is Tyler Ward even considered notable? So what, he does covers on youtube, what the hell is so special about that? None of these so-called youtube celebs will ever make it big the way Justin Bieber had done, and even now people are quickly starting not to care about Bieber because of his antics. Anyone can put up a cover on youtube. Hell, I can put up a cover on youtube right now, doesn't mean that makes me worthy of an article. So what, he went on a talk show, when was the last time that happened, like, 4, 5, 6 years ago? What's so special about that? He independently puts out an album and some EPS of covers on iTunes to try to profit off of other artists, and has his own studio. Ok that's great, nobody cares. His fans are on the internet, who cares. With all those millions of views on youtube on his shitty covers of already popular hits of the moment, some of which are nothing special even when sung by the original artist, what makes him notable or worthy of a page on Wikipedia? And why haven't those millions upon millions of youtube views from his so-called fans ensure him to be signed by a major label like RCA Records or Columbia Records? And why hasn't he appeared on any major chart. Ok, he appeared on some minor charts... in Germany? Ok that's great, it's nice he accomplished something, but still, nobody cares, and it's certainly nothing to brag about. Perhaps it's safe to list him as one such example in the article, "Nobody Cares About Your Garage Band" — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.196.120.234 (talk) 03:35, 14 January 2014 (UTC)


 * I feel your pain, friend, but he actually seems to be notable. I found a number of articles in major newspapers that actually discuss the guy and I have no doubt that he meets the GNG.  I'll put more info in if I'm up to it, but the AfD went the right way.&mdash; alf laylah wa laylah (talk) 01:26, 20 January 2014 (UTC)

Notability
First of all, why does Tyler Ward, or any other "youtube artists" for that matter (and I use the term artist loosely), even have a Wikipedia article? As others have stated many times before around here, he is not a star, has not appeared on any charts, at least not in America, and if he's supposedly known worldwide and goes on tours all the time, wouldn't you think by now he would've had a record deal? Second of all, he's what, 26 or 27, something like that, and he's covering teeniboper songs from shitty flash-in-the-pan artists who are younger than him by at least a decade? That speaks volumes about his ambitions to start a serious music career, it's really quite sad that he doesn't feel any ounce of shame that at 27 years old, he's not managed to find success with his music because he couldn't be bothered to learn how to get some originality. BTW, you can't really argue that he's doing things independently, because his original music, if he even has any, is on iTunes and as popular around the world as he supposedly is, he fails to reach the iTunes top 100. He isn't even on the indie albums charts, something only a real independent artist who was serious about a music career and being original could achieve. Neither of his songs are on American Radio, and for crying out loud, who the hell does he think he is trying to sell covers of songs by other artists on iTunes and make money off of it? Is he going to be a cover artist all his life, or is he actually going to quit fucking around and actually get serious with his music career? I know if it was me, I'd hate to have the tag "youtube artist" attached to me forever. So much for him having ambitions of starting a music career. There are people who work their asses off for many years who aren't as fortunate as him, who go out to bars and clubs and perform for people who a majority of them couldn't even give two shits that someone is singing, and this kid thinks that all of a sudden because he puts out covers of songs that other artists have done on youtube, that he thinks he's a star? People like him can be found anywhere you go. Average voice, average looks, nothing special about him, so why is Wikipedia even wasting server space on a youtube covers artist? If they ever become real huge famous stars, I could justify an article being written about them. But let's be real, he will never be as huge as Justin Bieber once was, nor will he ever be as huge as even Cody Simpson or even Austin Mahone, and that's saying a lot because neither of the others that came after Bieber are huge stars themselves. How the hell does he expect to be taken seriously as an artist if every single song he puts out is a cover of a song that's already been done before? I've followed his Youtube channel closely for about at least a year but quickly got sick of it. I'm not sure when, but he uploaded a video where he was showing everyone his home studio where he supposedly makes his music. For crying in the bucket, the guy has his own home studio and he uses all his money and resources on cover songs? Give me a break. It's no wonder why his page keeps getting vandalized, talk about a Captain Obvious moment. Like I mentioned before, he's not a star, he is not notable in any way, and he shouldn't be. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 172.56.9.24 (talk • contribs) 15:08

Semi-protected edit request on 27 January 2016
Birthdate and age are incorrect. Should be March 12, 1984. His website is incorrectly portraying him and should not be used as a viable source. Please see page four of this document. Name, parents and history all match up. http://grfx.cstv.com/photos/schools/ncol/sports/m-footbl/auto_pdf/04-Football-SigningDayb.pdf

Focusonthebeer (talk) 17:36, 27 January 2016 (UTC)
 * Pictogram voting comment.svg Note: Very unsure about this one. Anyone better with the topic at hand can comment? Also, for some reason my own comments were reverted. Not nice. --allthefoxes (Talk) 23:16, 27 January 2016 (UTC)
 * Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done for now: Marking as "not done for now" because I'd say WP:ABOUTSELF trumps this single source. It's possible the source is mistaken. However, if more sources can be provided that claim March 12, 1984, is the correct date of birth, then I could see it being changed or both being presented in the article. If you have more sources, please provide them. (Note, because this is a biography of a living person, sources provided will need to be high quality). ( since they asked for second opinion)  Eve rgr een Fir  (talk) Please &#123;&#123;re&#125;&#125; 03:22, 3 February 2016 (UTC)

Discography
I just removed the following commentary by James Duggins from the article. Huon (talk) 21:19, 9 April 2017 (UTC)
 * This is James Duggins Here, I am a Editor on Wikipedia, Please Do Not Delete the Album Honestly Table OR EP Album Yellow Boxes Table and Not Even the Singles Below, That I just Made which took Me Over 1 Hour to 2 Hours, to do the 1 Album, 1 EP Album and the Singles Table as Well.


 * BUT I do Need Help Please which is From the Lead Single The Way We Are released in 2012 to SOS in 2014, I cannot fit it all in 1 Album, which the Seven Singles are in the Honestly Album, including SOS Which I cannot get the Album Honestly which is In it. Below and What's It Like To Be Lonely is in the Yellow Boxes Album and if You Don't believe me look at Itunes. Thank You Kind Regards from James Duggins


 * The Lead single from the Album Honestly by Tyler Ward is "The Way We Are", which came out on October 18, 2012. Here is the Link attached for The Way We Are. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R1EjzNL-Lks


 * The Second Single from the Album is "Falling Featuring Alex G", which is a Official German Release version which came out on October 5, 2013. Here is the Link attached for Falling. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UWcvmXssyak


 * The Third Single from the Album is "Forever Starts Tonight", which came out on October 9, 2013. Here is the Attached link for Forever Starts Tonight. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5WIYBKfWJPk


 * The Fourth Single from the Album is "Some Kind of Beautiful Featuring Lindsey Stirling", which came out on October 19, 2013. Here is the Attached link for Some Kind of Beautiful. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CIX-rI-9quM


 * The Fifth Single from the Album is "Beginning of a Bad Idea", which came out on April 5, 2014. Here is the Attached link for Beginning of a Bad Idea. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eUinXx6Kci4


 * The Sixth Single from the Album Honestly is "Hoopty Hoop", which came out on June 14, 2014. Here is the Attached link for Hoopty Hoop. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QFoOanov4kU


 * The Seventh and Last Single from the Album Honestly is "SOS", which came out on June 28, 2014. Here is the Attached link for SOS. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HPC15TvmQuE


 * Ward released a EP Album on October 1, 2015 titled Yellow Boxes. Here is the album on Itunes attached Link. https://itunes.apple.com/us/album/yellow-boxes-ep/id1042792022


 * The Lead Single from the EP Album Yellow Boxes is "What It's Like To Be Lonely", Which came out on March 11, 2017. Here is the Attached link for What It's Like To Be Lonely. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LpDDg_fPM30

Birth year dispute
I see that the birth year has been disputed for some time. I don't understand how the twitter ref could be considered reliable. Ethnicelebs.com is not reliable. I've removed the year in the meantime, and have requested the article be protected to stop the edit-warring and get editors to discuss the matter. --Ronz (talk) 17:30, 14 July 2019 (UTC)
 * https://www.greeleytribune.com/news/making-it-bigunc-graduate-breaks-into-the-music-scene-after-posting-covers-on-youtube/ States he graduated from UNC in 2008. --Ronz (talk) 17:53, 14 July 2019 (UTC)

My initial impression is that 1984 is most likely, sourced by the UNC recruiting release. I don't think it's a good enough source to settle this. --Ronz (talk) 18:13, 14 July 2019 (UTC)
 * An ip identified https://newspaperarchive.com/colorado-springs-gazette-dec-13-2002-p-88/ as verifying he was a senior in high school in 2002. Can anyone access it to verify? --Ronz (talk) 22:27, 14 October 2019 (UTC)
 * https://extras.denverpost.com/preps/5acaps0827.htm probably refers to the same person. Still, I don't see this as enough to resolve the dispute. --Ronz (talk) 22:44, 14 October 2019 (UTC)
 * Since another editor pointed it out on my talk page, https://web.archive.org/web/20170223130257/http://grfx.cstv.com/photos/schools/ncol/sports/m-footbl/auto_pdf/04-Football-SigningDayb.pdf verifies 1984, he graduated from Cheyenne Mountain High School in 2002, and attended Air Force Prep Academy. It identifies his father as his high school football coach.
 * https://www.greeleytribune.com/news/making-it-bigunc-graduate-breaks-into-the-music-scene-after-posting-covers-on-youtube/ (mentioned above) also says, "If you recognize Ward, it’s probably not for his football career at UNC, even if he graduated in 2008. He was a fullback. UNC signed him after he played for his father, who was head coach at Cheyenne Mountain High School." --Ronz (talk) 01:25, 15 October 2019 (UTC)

Repeated birth date removal
Hello, on two occasions now, I have reverted an edit you made to this page, where you removed Tyler Ward's birth date without providing an edit summary. Can you please explain why you insist on doing this, and why you don't include edit summaries? Thank you. Revirvlkodlaku (talk) 14:05, 5 September 2021 (UTC)