Talk:Typhoon Nina (1987)/GA1

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Reviewer: Hurricanehink (talk · contribs) 03:59, 2 May 2015 (UTC)


 * There is no need for the disambiguation at the top. No one could get TS Nina confused with this storm. However, it would be a useful link in the see also section, more so than List of tropical cyclones.
 * Moved. YE Pacific Hurricane  04:58, 2 May 2015 (UTC)
 * Is there a reason you still have List of tropical cyclones? ♫ Hurricanehink ( talk ) 14:37, 2 May 2015 (UTC)
 * Axed. YE Pacific Hurricane  15:19, 2 May 2015 (UTC)


 * " was the most intense typhoon to strike the Philippines since Typhoon Irma in 1984." - that's only three years. Is there nothing more fancy? Like Xth deadliest Philippine storm?
 * I think the Xth deadliest Philippine storm is too trivial. But Irma was six years, not three, so I fixed that. 04:58, 2 May 2015 (UTC)
 * "and on November 19, was first classified as a tropical cyclone" - why does infobox say the 16th?
 * Changed. YE Pacific Hurricane  04:58, 2 May 2015 (UTC)
 * Why did you wait so long to link typhoon?
 * Moved. YE Pacific Hurricane  04:58, 2 May 2015 (UTC)
 * "before attaining its peak intensity of 170 km/h (105 mph)" - I was gonna ask if this was in 1-min or 10-min, but I noticed, this doesn't match either value in the infobox. So.......
 * Fixed, and sticking to JMA since it's official. 04:58, 2 May 2015 (UTC)
 * Now it says "before attaining its peak 10 minuet intensity of 175 km/h", which is still inconsistent with the infobox. And JMA wasn't official then, it didn't become an RSMC until 1989. So if you want to say 10-minute winds there, you should say who said that? ♫ Hurricanehink ( talk ) 14:37, 2 May 2015 (UTC)
 * Listen, I like to avoid that JMA/JTWC crap in leads because IMO it is confusing. Look at all my other 80s WPAC articles. YE Pacific Hurricane  15:19, 2 May 2015 (UTC)


 * Why did you link Truk Atoll twice? (its name is Chuuk Lagoon). And why is there a link to a river in England?
 * Fixed both. YE Pacific Hurricane
 * Is Weno the same place as Meon? Also, you have a link for Chuuk Lagoon Am I crazy or is that the same thing? ♫ Hurricanehink ( talk ) 14:37, 2 May 2015 (UTC)
 * Apparently it's the capital of Chuuk Lagoon, and I take it Meon is/was per the old version of the article. YE Pacific Hurricane  15:19, 2 May 2015 (UTC)


 * "After crossing the Philippines, Nina brought extensive damage to the northern portion of the island group." - so it caused damage *after* it crossed the islands? Not during?
 * Better? YE Pacific Hurricane  04:58, 2 May 2015 (UTC)
 * "The town of Matnog sustained the worst damage from the typhoon. There, 287 people died." - merge
 * Done. YE <sup style="color:#666660;">Pacific <sup style="color:#666660;">Hurricane  04:58, 2 May 2015 (UTC)
 * Boac is a dab
 * Corrected. YE <sup style="color:#666660;">Pacific <sup style="color:#666660;">Hurricane  04:58, 2 May 2015 (UTC)
 * Too much of the 2nd lede paragraph is "In [X location], [Y effects happened]." Try changing up the structure
 * Better. YE <sup style="color:#666660;">Pacific <sup style="color:#666660;">Hurricane  04:58, 2 May 2015 (UTC)
 * "a little over 90,000 houses were destroyed" - is there a reason you used this wording instead of the equally factually "about 90,000..."
 * To mix it up, but changed. YE <sup style="color:#666660;">Pacific <sup style="color:#666660;">Hurricane  04:58, 2 May 2015 (UTC)
 * Why no Philippine death toll in the lead?
 * Noted. YE <sup style="color:#666660;">Pacific <sup style="color:#666660;">Hurricane  04:58, 2 May 2015 (UTC)
 * "An area of convection developed in mid-November near the International Date Line" - this could refer to anywhere from Antarctica to the North Pole.
 * Better? YE <sup style="color:#666660;">Pacific <sup style="color:#666660;">Hurricane  04:58, 2 May 2015 (UTC)
 * Kinda, but that could still be in the SHEM. Give people some general idea where the storm formed. ♫ Hurricanehink ( talk ) 14:37, 2 May 2015 (UTC)
 * I added NHEM, but feel it's too wordy now. YE <sup style="color:#666660;">Pacific <sup style="color:#666660;">Hurricane  15:19, 2 May 2015 (UTC)


 * "a Tropical Cyclone Formation Alert (TCFA) was issued by the JTWC" - avoid passive voice
 * Tweaked. YE <sup style="color:#666660;">Pacific <sup style="color:#666660;">Hurricane  04:58, 2 May 2015 (UTC)
 * "Continuing to rapidly become better organized while moving west-northwest, the JTWC " - the JTWC was becoming organized?
 * Right :P YE <sup style="color:#666660;">Pacific <sup style="color:#666660;">Hurricane  04:58, 2 May 2015 (UTC)
 * You have another one of those - "Following a significant increase in organization, the JTWC issued..." Don't use these dangling participles. ♫ Hurricanehink ( talk ) 14:37, 2 May 2015 (UTC)
 * I was afraid you were gonna bring this up. Should be fixed though. YE <sup style="color:#666660;">Pacific <sup style="color:#666660;">Hurricane  15:19, 2 May 2015 (UTC)


 * " 110 km (68 mi)" - round?
 * Whoops. YE <sup style="color:#666660;">Pacific <sup style="color:#666660;">Hurricane  04:58, 2 May 2015 (UTC)
 * The MH is a bit long, but not because of excessive details. You mention a lot about intensification slowing, continuing, and small changes in movements. In the grand scheme of things, I think these can be cut down a bit
 * Cut back a little. Better, worse, or the same? YE <sup style="color:#666660;">Pacific <sup style="color:#666660;">Hurricane  04:58, 2 May 2015 (UTC)
 * Little better, but could you merge two of the paragraphs? ♫ Hurricanehink ( talk ) 14:37, 2 May 2015 (UTC)
 * ✅. YE <sup style="color:#666660;">Pacific <sup style="color:#666660;">Hurricane  15:19, 2 May 2015 (UTC)


 * " 215 km/h (135 mph), making it a low-end Category 5 system" - 135 mph is C4. But lead says 165 mph. Which one is right?
 * Fixed. YE <sup style="color:#666660;">Pacific <sup style="color:#666660;">Hurricane  04:58, 2 May 2015 (UTC)
 * Where was the Luzon landfall?
 * That's unfortunately quit vague in the ATCR. YE <sup style="color:#666660;">Pacific <sup style="color:#666660;">Hurricane  04:58, 2 May 2015 (UTC)
 * Do you have the landfall point? If so, you can give the mileage to the nearest major city or province. ♫ Hurricanehink ( talk ) 14:37, 2 May 2015 (UTC)
 * No. YE <sup style="color:#666660;">Pacific <sup style="color:#666660;">Hurricane  15:19, 2 May 2015 (UTC)


 * "After passing near Truk, which has a population of 42,000, Typhoon Nina brought heavy damage to the area." - after or while?
 * Changed. YE <sup style="color:#666660;">Pacific <sup style="color:#666660;">Hurricane  04:58, 2 May 2015 (UTC)
 * "Hundreds of people were evacuated while the typhoon also inflicted severe crop damage" - neither relate to each other, so why are they mentioned in the same sentence? The whole section just seems like a jumble of text without much flow.
 * Better? YE <sup style="color:#666660;">Pacific <sup style="color:#666660;">Hurricane  04:58, 2 May 2015 (UTC)
 * No. Why did you get rid of the bit about crop damage? ♫ Hurricanehink ( talk ) 14:37, 2 May 2015 (UTC)
 * Brought back, but I don't like the wording at all. YE <sup style="color:#666660;">Pacific <sup style="color:#666660;">Hurricane  15:19, 2 May 2015 (UTC)


 * "many fisherman ignored the aforementioned warnings and refuse to feel to higher ground" - what does this mean?
 * Was I drunk? Anyhow, fixed. YE <sup style="color:#666660;">Pacific <sup style="color:#666660;">Hurricane  04:58, 2 May 2015 (UTC)
 * Are you still drunk?! "many fisherman ignored the alters and refused to flee to higher ground" - the alters?? ♫ Hurricanehink ( talk ) 14:37, 2 May 2015 (UTC)
 * Maybe. Fingers crossed, but I think it is fixed. YE <sup style="color:#666660;">Pacific <sup style="color:#666660;">Hurricane  15:19, 2 May 2015 (UTC)

Overall the article is in decent shape, but it needs some more loving before I pass the nomination. On hold for now. ♫ Hurricanehink ( talk ) 03:59, 2 May 2015 (UTC)
 * "where 287 people drowned due to storm surge" - were all of the deaths due to storm surge? Or just most
 * All it seems. YE <sup style="color:#666660;">Pacific <sup style="color:#666660;">Hurricane  04:58, 2 May 2015 (UTC)
 * " Initially, only eleven provinces were declared a state of emergency,[35] but by November 29, this total increased to 17" - use the same number format
 * Good call. YE <sup style="color:#666660;">Pacific <sup style="color:#666660;">Hurricane  04:58, 2 May 2015 (UTC)
 * "Around 11,000 lb (5,000 kg) of rice was withdrawn for uses in eight provinces" - what do you mean, withdrawn?
 * Cleared up. YE <sup style="color:#666660;">Pacific <sup style="color:#666660;">Hurricane  04:58, 2 May 2015 (UTC)
 * Still needs a bit more loving. ♫ Hurricanehink ( talk ) 14:37, 2 May 2015 (UTC)
 * The article is beloved by all :P! YE <sup style="color:#666660;">Pacific <sup style="color:#666660;">Hurricane  15:19, 2 May 2015 (UTC)