Talk:Typographer (typewriter)

I question the sources used for this article
Allow me to lead off by presenting two passages taken from the present article:
 * It was the first practical typewriting machine ever made in America or any country worldwide.

And this one:
 * American typewriters have been recognized in all parts of the world as superior right from the beginning of the United States patents. There has been a tendency in history records to give credit to English inventors for the typewriter invention. This could be due to the Patent Office fire in 1830 that destroyed the patents and models or just due to enthusiastic British historians of inventions.

These passages and, indeed, the entirety of this article only use reference material originating from the United States, and, as far as I can tell, none of the reference material is scholarly or academic. This leads to me to question the veracity of bold claims in passages such as those quoted above. Indeed, the article for typewriter suggests a far more nuanced and complex history than that presented in this article. I think the claims herein should be reworked with a keen eye for balance, appropriately weighing available evidence against other historical documentation from the United States, Europe and elsewhere. --50.136.244.254 (talk) 04:28, 23 July 2013 (UTC)

I would agree with this comment. The comments above seem very difficult to reconcile with the Wikipedia typewriter article which states that the first typwriter sold commercially, and the first to be faster than handwriting was invented by a Dane, Rasmus Malling-Hansen. I think the language needs some considerable toning down, and the article could do with a broader range of references. If American typewriters were really recognised "in all parts of the world as superior", then it should be easy to find contemporary references from outside the USA stating this.

Baska436 (talk) 08:30, 23 July 2013 (UTC)

I also have to agree with the above comments. In particular the latter paragraph excerpted above appears to violate a number of Wikipedia policies, being someone's soapbox rant of their position of American vs. British typewriters. It is inappropriate in an encyclopedic article and should be removed. DigitalRevolution (talk) 13:10, 23 July 2015 (UTC)

✅ Martin of Sheffield (talk) 10:53, 23 July 2018 (UTC)

First letter ever typed on a typewriter done in 1829
This example uses proportional fonts (note size of "i"), which would probably have been difficult to appropriately space by the mechanism. The entire letter is justified, which is also unlikely for such an early machine. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Emesz (talk • contribs) 21:46, 24 July 2013 (UTC)
 * Agreed. Compare the even lines to the wavy lines of the letter to his wife.  He says: "You will observe some inaccuracies in the situations of the letters;" and yet they are professionally laid out.  This must be a printer's copy, not a facsimilie.  Martin of Sheffield (talk) 13:15, 23 July 2014 (UTC)


 * Justification is not only unlikely, it's absolutely impossible. It would require a crystal ball to be interfaced with the mechanism so that the machine could accurately predict what the operator was going to type throughout the line while he typed it.  Right justification requires a knowledge of the content of the whole line particularly when proportional spacing is used.  Speaking of proportional spacing: does anyone else think that the em dash after the salutation is unbelievably wide for a mechanical typewriting machine.


 * The second letter in the article is much more believable. DieSwartzPunkt (talk) 18:08, 23 July 2014 (UTC)

"...that ultimately was not accomplished at first."
Huh??? Ghmyrtle (talk) 17:30, 23 July 2018 (UTC)
 * No interest, so I'll remove the last two words. Ghmyrtle (talk) 08:24, 25 July 2018 (UTC)

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