Talk:Tyre, Lebanon/GA1

GA Review
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Reviewer: Artem.G (talk · contribs) 17:14, 2 January 2022 (UTC)

I wanted to review that article, but after a quick glance I think it's a fail, with a lot of problems that require a lot of work.


 * "This article may be too long to read and navigate comfortably." and "It has been suggested that this article be split into a new article titled history of Tyre. (Discuss) (October 2021)" - this should be addressed; article is really long and tells more about the history of the place.
 * there are three [citation needed] tags and quite a number of unreferenced sentences.
 * I find quote style to be unreadable - small sentences like "one of the deadliest days in Israeli military history.[200]" or "This angered the French who apparently encouraged an unsuccessful attempt to assassinate Sharaf al-Din.[88]" or "The Cathedral of Paulinus is considered the oldest in Church history.[20]" can be used in text, not as blockquotes that broke text. Besides, there are a lot of paragraphs that consists of a single sentence, f.e. in Independence from Seleucid Empire (126–64 BCE) or Crusader period (1124–1291), that makes the article hard to read.
 * "Public Domain This article incorporates text from a publication now in the public domain: Easton, Matthew George (1897). Easton's Bible Dictionary (New and revised ed.). T. Nelson and Sons. Missing or empty |title= (help)"
 * Galleries should be significantly trimmed or even removed - 175 (!) photos are way too much. see WP:NOTGALLERY
 * Notable people - all should be sourced
 * I would focus on just one section, Hellenistic period (332–126 BCE), to highlight some problems:
 * "Angered by this rejection and the city's loyalty to Darius, Alexander started the Siege of Tyre despite its reputation as being impregnable.[16] However, the Macedonian conqueror succeeded after seven months by demolishing the old city on the mainland and using its stones to construct a causeway to the island:[7][43][20][40][44]" - very awkward phrasing. It is a quote or just an opinion and should be more neutral; 5 refs are a lot, among them:
 * "Strolling in old Tyr – LebanonUntravelled.com". - seems to be not a reliable source for a historical event
 * "The tallest siege towers ever used in the history of war[citation needed] "
 * "Alexander's legacy still lives on today, since Tyre has remained a peninsula instead of an island ever since." not very encyclopedic - would be fine if the idea would be expanded, but right now there are a lot of such awkward phrases.
 * "After Alexander's death in 323 BCE", "In 315 BCE", "In 275 BCE, Tyre abandoned" - reads like WP:PROSELINE
 * "Anyhow, the grip of the Seleucid rulers over Phoenicia increasingly weakened during the next quarter of a century:" - unreferenced and strange tone.

I recommend to discuss splitting the article, split it (just my opinion, discuss it on talk page) to Tyre and History of Tyre, and ask help for copyediting at WikiProject Guild of Copy Editors.

Right now it's a fail, though I think it can become two GAs after splitting and major copyediting. Artem.G (talk) 17:14, 2 January 2022 (UTC)