Talk:Tywysog

Meaning includes King?
Tywysog is Welsh for a ruling Prince or King (brenin), which gradually superseded the latter term as a formal title in the High Middle Ages. It's claimed by the author that it means King or Prince, see above quote. Yet no other support is provided for this position. The reason Prince was used in the Middle Ages is that the former Kingdoms were united under the King of Gwynedd as self-titled Prince of Wales. Why Prince? Well so as not to be wiped out by the King of England who annexed the land and demanded homage (money!) from the Prince of Wales. So what are you saying? That the Prince of Wales (not modern Wales of course as the marcher lands weren't in the control of Gwynedd) was in fact named "King of Wales"? A big claim for a dictionary definition of a Welsh word. This claim doesn't appear in any of the other articles. Pbhj (talk) 22:55, 7 May 2008 (UTC)

Pronunciation?
How do you say it? Rojomoke (talk) 11:08, 26 July 2008 (UTC)

LanguageBuff (talk) 17:57, 18 August 2009 (UTC)It is my belief that it should be pronounced "chee-sok" and is a derivitave of Celtic (welsh and Irish) phonetic contact with Roman culture for the word "Caesar" which was approximately pronounced as "Kaeso"  .... hence also "Kaiser" (German), "Czar or Tsar" (Russian) and even "Shah" (Iranian)
 * Might be your belief, but you'd be completely wrong - there are no silent letters in Welsh. I don't do IPA, but representatively it would be something like "tuh-WUSS-og" -- Arwel Parry (talk) 23:07, 18 August 2009 (UTC)