Talk:U.S. Route 9 in New Jersey

U.S. Route and Route 18
Where Route 9 and Route 18 cross is that Marlboro or Old Bridge?

Nextbarker 02:52, 10 December 2006 (UTC)nextbarker


 * It's Old Bridge, it's just across the Monmouth-Middlesex county line. Just to warn you, the other junctions you added are going to be removed.  I'm not going to do it yet, though, because the whole list needs work since I wrote it when US 1 and 9 were the same article. -- NORTH talk 04:45, 10 December 2006 (UTC)

Fine, I'll get rid of them, I guess I'm not needed. Nextbarker 05:43, 10 December 2006 (UTC)nextbarker

U.S. 9 info box back to normal
Ok, shields I made in the infobox is gone, ok maybe Route 34 isn't big, but the GSP in Sayreville, certinaly is, and so is Route 33 in Freehold, but all gone, good luck to you bye. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Nextbarker (talk • contribs) 05:46, 10 December 2006 (UTC).

Sorry, I'd think NJ 33 would be major in Freehold at Route 9, and the Parkway is certainly major in Sayreville.

Nextbarker 19:10, 10 December 2006 (UTC)nextbarker


 * I agree with you on NJ 33, but the problem is that there are too many junctions to list, especially now that junctions north of Woodbridge have to be added back now that the US 1 & 9 articles are split.
 * The GSP junction at Exit 123 is not major since the other junction just north of there is already listed. -- NORTH talk 19:18, 10 December 2006 (UTC)

But I think of Parkway gets more heavily used then US Route 9 it's more jammed by exit 123 then in Woodbridge despite the NJTP or 440 or US 9.

And couldn't we add one more junction to the major junction box, cause Route 9 has a looooooot of major intersections in NJ? Nextbarker 03:15, 11 December 2006 (UTC)nextbarker

And how is U.S. Route 9 major by Route 18 there's only one direct entrance southbound to Route 18 from US 9 South unless you count, Spring Valley Road to Route 18 North major, and there's only one northbound entrance to Route 18 on the northbound side of 9.

Nextbarker 03:17, 11 December 2006 (UTC)nextbarker


 * Actually, in my experience, very few people use Exit 123, since they can just use US 9 to get from 123 to 129 without tolls, US 9 is mostly limited access through there, and the Edison Bridge has just been reconstructed (and was done before the Driscoll Bridge). Most of the backups on the parkway through there are for the toll plaza and the express/local split/merge.
 * You seem to be contradicting yourself a lot. How could Exit 123 be major by your logic, when you can only get from the Parkway southbound to US 9 southbound, or 9 north to Parkway north?  Like I said at Talk:New Jersey Route 18, the completeness doesn't matter much, but I'm baffled as to what your thinking sometimes.  You've threatened to leave at least twice, but you've come back every time asking the same exact questions.
 * I'm not suggesting you leave (I don't care whether you do or not). What I am suggesting you do is read the guidelines I've given you on your talk page, and perhaps also the discussion on WT:NJSCR they came from.
 * No, we can't extend the junction list just because there are "a lot" of junctions, just like we can't add all the semi-major junctions to Interstate 80, or Garden State Parkway for that matter. That's why we have the guideline. -- NORTH talk 05:47, 11 December 2006 (UTC)
 * Thats's what exit lists are for... --Rschen7754 (talk - contribs) 05:54, 11 December 2006 (UTC)


 * Aye, that too. -- NORTH talk 06:07, 11 December 2006 (UTC)

US 40/322 is a good candidate for a major junction, but it misses the cut because it's so close to the ACE and parallels a good portion of it.

NJ 157 is not a major junction. This should be common sense.

NJ 35 is a fairly good candidate, but also misses the cut because north of there it parallels US 1/9 so closely, and south of there parallels the Parkway.

There is no US 46 "junction" in Fort Lee, it runs concurrent with US 1/9 through there. The junction in Palisades Park is a fairly good candidate, but US 46 parallels I-80. -- NORTH talk 21:23, 14 December 2006 (UTC)

US 40/322 at Route 9
I said US 40/322 because that's the Black Horse Pike, isn't that was US 40/322 is in Pleasantville?

24.228.70.72 01:32, 16 December 2006 (UTC)nextbarker


 * US 40/322 being the Black Horse Pike couldn't possibly matter less. It's been included once again now that US 1/9 north of Woodbridge has been split off.
 * I noticed you decided to add NJ 33 Business to the junction list. Please enlighten me, why would you add 33 Business instead of 33 mainline?  I kept it (after changing it to NJ 33) against my better judgement, since it puts us at 12 11 junctions instead of 10.  If you add any more, I won't hesitate to revert them off. -- NORTH talk 02:57, 17 December 2006 (UTC)

Business Route 33
I added Business Route 33 because it tends to get more busier with the Racetrack and the Mall there, and there was once a circle by that point, and it Route 33 Business and US 9 gets more jammed up here, then at NJ 33 mainline for those reasons.

Nextbarkernextbarker

And another reason, NJ 33 mainline has no direct access to US Route 9 North, on the eastbound side, you have to take NJ 33 Business and Westbound you need Route 537, unless you take the southbound 9 exit and make a jughandle at Schanck Road.

Nextbarker 05:36, 18 December 2006 (UTC)nextbarker


 * I don't think I'm getting through to you. The completeness of an interchange doesn't really matter, and a freeway junction will win over a traffic light every time.  A mainline route wins over a bannered route every time.  -- NORTH talk 06:44, 18 December 2006 (UTC)

Route 9 & 33
I got you, but wasn't once a circle at Route 9 and 33 near the mall? I mean that's another reason why I addede BUSINESS Route 33 at first or it doesn't count.

apologizing
Sorry for the confusion, North, that's what those reason are for adding Business NJ 33, there's no mall entrance on the Route33 mainline is there?

Nextbarker 02:30, 19 December 2006 (UTC)nextbarker


 * The former circle doesn't matter. Circles (present or former) do not make major junctions.  The mall entrance does make a valid point, and because of that the business route might be included on a shorter list, but since we must choose our junctions to meet the guideline (which we're already breaking), the freeway junction at the non-bannered route wins hands-down. -- NORTH talk 02:57, 19 December 2006 (UTC)

Ok, thanx I'm sorry for the confusion for you, sir

Nextbarker 03:10, 19 December 2006 (UTC)nextbarker

infobox
The article currently has 12 junctions listed in the infobox road template, but there is supposed to be a maximum of 10. I'd remove some myself, but I don't know what are the more major junctions... --LJ (talk) 22:40, 18 March 2009 (UTC)

Discussion on US 1-9
A discussion about whether junctions for US 1-9 should be put in the articles about US 1 and US 9 in New Jersey are being discussed here. PointsofNoReturn (talk) 22:15, 26 October 2014 (UTC)

Great Egg Harbor Bridge
Does any portion of Route 9 cross the Great Egg Harbor Bridge? From what I've read, New Jersey's straight line diagram has the route crossing the Beesley's Point Bridge, but that bridge hasn't existed for going on two years. Does anyone know about this? ♫ Hurricanehink ( talk ) 17:12, 21 March 2018 (UTC)
 * The SLD probably hasn't taken into account that the Beesley's Point Bridge no longer exists as it was last updated in 2013. But for all intents and purposes US 9 uses the Great Egg Harbor Bridge to cross the bay.  Dough   4872   00:34, 22 March 2018 (UTC)