Talk:U.S. export of democracy

About this article; December 2009
This is a CHUNK of the getting-too-huge article Foreign policy of the United States. Numerous editors on the talk pages of the FP of the US article have advocated for six months and more to break the article into smaller articles. It's having trouble loading quickly. This is the third major spinoff. Here's the overall structure:--Tomwsulcer (talk) 20:13, 31 December 2009 (UTC)

Foreign policy of the United States <---MAIN article
 * History of U.S. foreign policy <---spinoff article
 * Criticism of U.S. foreign policy   <--- another spinoff article
 * History of U.S. exporting democracy militarily  <--- this article

I didn't write this particular article. I copyedited it. Still, I think there are serious POV concerns with it for this reason: it appears slanted against the U.S.; even the title presumes something wrong; so I added the WP:NPOV tag. Basically, most of the text in this article is talking negatively about U.S. interventions, failures, pushing democracy and having it backfire, etc etc. I think the U.S. record, while checkered, has many positive things which are not reflected here; the balance of the text addresses negative concerns. I think the topic is more fairly addressed in the article and subsection Criticism of U.S. foreign policy which I wrote, which I think has a fairer treatment of both sides, of course, since everything I do is totally perfect. I'm joking. I strive for WP:NPOV.--Tomwsulcer (talk) 20:13, 31 December 2009 (UTC)--Tomwsulcer (talk) 00:00, 9 January 2010 (UTC)

Whatever happened to the No Point of View Policy??123Mike456Winston789 (talk) 20:18, 31 December 2009 (UTC)


 * What do you mean? Remember, I didn't write this; I copyedited it; and I'm the one that put the tag on.--Tomwsulcer (talk) 20:47, 31 December 2009 (UTC) Do you mean the WP:NPOV?--Tomwsulcer (talk) 00:00, 9 January 2010 (UTC)
 * I think the WP:NPOV issue with this article stems most strongly from the title, which by its nature states that the United States DOES "export democracy militarily." This is a serious problem but one that can be fixed with a title change. The article's content could probably use a bit of tone-neutralizing but it's not nearly as egregious as the title, which I think is pretty clearly (if inadvertently, I suspect) pushing a POV. ɠǀɳ̩ςεΝɡ  bomb  08:47, 23 February 2010 (UTC)
 * Maybe 123Mike456Winston789 (talk) is hinting about changing the  # redirect to the "Abu Ghraib torture and prisoner abuse" article instead of the "Foreign policy of the United States" one... what do you think Tomwsulcer (talk)?   M  aurice    C arbonaro     11:18, 11 February 2013 (UTC)