Talk:U2360° at the Rose Bowl

Details on filming
U2.com interview with Tom Krueger here. Part one of two. Could go into section on setting up cameras/filming. Not DVD exclusive, so could also add info to main Tour article for details on screen visuals. Melicans (talk, contributions) 18:58, 28 June 2010 (UTC)

Larry on vocals.
he songs on Unknown Caller, Moment of Surrender, and Elevation. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.231.239.198 (talk) 18:07, 9 July 2010 (UTC)

Requested move

 * The following discussion is an archived discussion of the proposal. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. No further edits should be made to this section. 

The result of the proposal was moved. --BDD (talk) 22:31, 4 November 2013 (UTC)

360° at the Rose Bowl → U2360° at the Rose Bowl – "U2" is officially part of the title as every source on U2.com indicates. Page was previously moved from original title without discussion. Relisted. BDD (talk) 23:40, 28 October 2013 (UTC) – Dream out loud (talk) 02:15, 17 October 2013 (UTC)
 * Comment: Shouldn't there be a space between "U2" and "360°"? Before October 2012, the article title had a space. The space seems to make it more readable. On the cover art, the "U2" and "360°" are on separate lines of text, which similarly separates them. The references that I noticed seem to include the space. Some of the referenced sources include the space in the title and some do not. Some of them list the title only as "360° at the Rose Bowl" and list "U2" separately as the name of the band. Generally, I get an impression of inconsistency in the sources (but I didn't study the situation especially carefully). —BarrelProof (talk) 14:53, 17 October 2013 (UTC)
 * I agree a space would make more sense, but all the references seem to lack the space, so I don't think we can just add one in because it looks right. Although, I have seen U2360° Tour written as one word, but much less common.  – Dream out loud  (talk) 23:04, 17 October 2013 (UTC)
 * In fact, now that I look into it "U2360°" in general seems to be more common than "U2 360°" The liner notes for the live album U22 reference the tour as "U2360°" as do the track listings for Artificial Horizon and Wide Awake in America.  U2.com has more hits for "U2360°" than "U2 360°".  The official book about the tour, From the Ground Up, also formats it as "U2360°", so it seems its more common without with the space. – Dream out loud  (talk) 23:29, 17 October 2013 (UTC)


 * Oppose As written. The word styling seems inappropriate. I would Support U2: 360° at the Rose Bowl.--Labattblueboy (talk) 20:14, 17 October 2013 (UTC)
 * What is your basis for formatting it as such when none of the official sources include a colon? – Dream out loud (talk) 23:04, 17 October 2013 (UTC)
 * IMDB (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1694546/) and amazon (http://www.amazon.ca/U2-360-at-Rose-Bowl/dp/B003ELOQCU).--Labattblueboy (talk) 00:44, 18 October 2013 (UTC)
 * IMDB and Amazon.com are not reliable sources. Amazon.com is just a online store that can format things however they want and I've seen them format things wrong before - any user can submit a correction on a listing.  IMDb is mostly user-created, similar to a Wiki, and again, any users can submit corrections or additions on their own.  There are no more official sources than U2.com and a physical book from the band published about the tour. – Dream out loud  (talk) 06:20, 20 October 2013 (UTC)
 * IMDB is certainly a reliable source and is employed as such on wikipedia. The use of a space or colon seems to be rather widespread (rotten tomatoes, Rolling Stone, not to mention sources in the article itself including inthenews.co.uk or allmusic. That being said, I'm not dead set on the colon. I am however opposed to U2360° at the Rose Bowl because U2360° is simply word styling, which wikipedia does not normally follow (MOS:TM). Since there is usage out there for U2 360° (or in the case of Uncut magazine U2 - 360°), and it's not a fabrication, I'm supporting some derivative of that.--Labattblueboy (talk) 13:42, 20 October 2013 (UTC)
 * IMDb is not a reliable source by any means. Yes, it is frequently used in many film articles, but such references are constantly being removed and are a violation of WP:VS. In fact, the template Unreliable sources has a separate parameter for IMDb sources.  You have to look at the official source for such items and formatting.  U2.com is the official source and press release for the video formats it in such the way I listed above. – Dream out loud  (talk) 01:38, 21 October 2013 (UTC)
 * Additionally, it is formatted as such on the release's cover itself! – Dream out loud (talk) 01:41, 21 October 2013 (UTC)
 * Official names are largely irrelevant for Wikipedia and I would not consider u2.com an unbiased reliable source in this case. I don't see us coming to agreement on this issue; you want to employ stylistic formatting and find it inappropriate and other options are employed by reliable sources. There isn't really any room to meet in the middle.--Labattblueboy (talk) 03:31, 21 October 2013 (UTC)
 * We are not talking about what names are "official" vs. "unofficial". We are talking about a simple formatting issue.  I would like to get some feedback from other editors on this.  With or without a space, the article title needs to change regardless. – Dream out loud  (talk) 06:17, 23 October 2013 (UTC)


 * Agree with U2360° at the Rose Bowl. We should name the article as it is at u2.com.  Miss Bono  [hello, hello!]  13:20, 29 October 2013 (UTC)
 * The original reason I proposed the move was to reinstate "U2" back into the title. I can say that I support both U2360° at the Rose Bowl and U2 360° at the Rose Bowl as titles, whether or not the space is included.  For now I think we should just add "U2" back as it was originally, and debate the space formatting another time. – Dream out loud  (talk) 03:02, 4 November 2013 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the proposal. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

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