Talk:UEFA Euro 2012 squads

Squads as of which date?
What is the date we should use in determining club? Transfer window opens 1 June and some players will be changing clubs on that date. --Walter Görlitz (talk) 14:37, 7 May 2012 (UTC)
 * The first match of the tournament makes most sense to me. That's what all the other information refers to (e.g. head coach and caps). The transfer window doesn't open on 1 June in all countries by the way.  mg  SH 14:45, 7 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Since the rosters must be submitted by 29 May 2012, make that the cut-off date. --Walter Görlitz (talk) 15:04, 7 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Previous tournaments have used the start of the tournament (pre-match on 8 June) as the cut-off, so I think it makes sense to go with that, especially as some sides have friendlies between 29 May and the tournament.  mg  SH 17:03, 7 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Have seen that and will go with what has been done in the past. Should we display that somewhere to avoid the possible back-and-forth? --Walter Görlitz (talk) 17:45, 7 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Possibly in the meantime, but I don't know how. I imagine the dated note at the top of the page will suffice once the tournament has begun, but something that makes that clarification could be useful anyway.  mg  SH 19:03, 7 May 2012 (UTC)
 * We would create an edit notice here. It may require an admin to create it. Would you mind creating the copy for it? --Walter Görlitz (talk) 19:10, 7 May 2012 (UTC)
 * I don't know what the standard for creating one of those is and think we can probably manage without, so I'll leave you to it if you deem it necessary, is that's okay.  mg  SH 11:17, 8 May 2012 (UTC)

Germany player positions
Since dfb.de lists Th. Müller and Podolski as midfielders (not as forwards), shouldn't they be treated accordingly in this article? --Prof. Heizer (talk) 10:08, 9 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Must use the sources. --Walter Görlitz (talk) 13:57, 9 May 2012 (UTC)

Oh mir fuckin' god Podolski plays always as Left attacking midfielder in german national team, why he is listed as Foward? You have echt no Ahnung from gar nix. -.- too stupid to shit --84.137.51.47 (talk) 18:48, 16 May 2012 (UTC)

Walcott and Oxlade-Chamberlain - forwards or midfielders?
There seems to be a bit of confusion in the 'England' section about whether Theo Walcott and Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain are midfield players or forwards. They're both very similar players, and the little abbreviation for both says 'FW' (i.e. forward), yet Walcott is listed as an attacker and Oxlade-Chamberlain as a midfielder. Obviously, they're wingers, so I would suggest that in modern tactical discourse, they are attackers but is that the consensus on the subject or not? Just wondering. Thanks, PamukSoundystem (talk) 18:33, 16 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Similar players? I think most would disagree. Anyway, the source for England's squad (The FA's website) lists both as midfielders, so they should be treated as such on this page.  mg  SH 21:37, 16 May 2012 (UTC)

Protected
Now that this article has been protected until 17 June 2012 to keep it from well-meaning anonymous editors, could we have someone verify the rosters for correctness? I suspect that there will be a great many requests for changes as well. If you are requesting a change to this article please recognise that the rosters are based on the submitted references. Player positions are based on the positions that that national team has assigned the players, not the positions that they play for their home clubs. Also, the order is first by position (keeper, backfield, midfield, forwards) and then caps. --Walter Görlitz (talk) 18:37, 17 May 2012 (UTC)
 * I'll do Groups A and B, if you do C and D?  mg  SH 21:08, 17 May 2012 (UTC)
 * That's my half done. Whoever ends up doing it shouldn't forget to remove unsourced squad numbers.  mg  SH 22:24, 17 May 2012 (UTC)

Netherlands
Robben is a forward (not a midfielder) and Schaars is a midfielder (not a defender). Can someone with a registered account kind enough to correct their positions? Thanks. 125.161.247.198 (talk) 06:10, 28 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Done.  mg  SH 07:37, 28 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Schaars is indeed a Midfielder, however he's been called up for this campaign as a defender.
 * "Pieters’ absence will force midfielder Stijn Schaars into the left back role. The 28-year-old Dutchman has welcomed the challenge." LindaSportGirl (talk) 18:51, 28 May 2012 (UTC)

Confirmed Squad Numbers
Poland 1	Wojciech Szczęsny 2	Sebastian Boenisch 3	Grzegorz Wojtkowiak 4	Damien Perquis 5	Dariusz Dudka 6	Adam Matuszczyk 7	Eugen Polanski 8	Maciej Rybus 9	Robert Lewandowski 10	Ludovic Obraniak 11	Rafał Murawski 12	Grzegorz Sandomierski 13	Marcin Wasilewski 14	Jakub Wawrzyniak 15	Marcin Kamiński 16	Jakub Błaszczykowski 17	Artur Sobiech 18	Adrian Mierzejewski 19	Rafał Wolski 20	Łukasz Piszczek 21	Kamil Grosicki 22	Przemysław Tytoń 23	Paweł Brożek

1	Igor Akinfeev 2	Aleksandr Anyukov 3	Aleksei Berezutski 4	Sergei Ignashevich 5	Yuri Zhirkov 6	Roman Shirokov 7	Igor Denisov 8	Konstantin Zyryanov 9	Pavel Pogrebnyak 10	Andrei Arshavin 11	Marat Izmailov 12	Roman Sharonov 13	Anton Shunin 14	Vladimir Granat 15	Dmitri Kombarov 16	Vyacheslav Malafeev 17	Igor Semshov 18	Aleksandr Kokorin 19	Roman Pavlyuchenko 20	Aleksandr Kerzhakov 21	Kiril Nabakin 22	Alan Dzagoev 23	Denis Glushakov

Netherlands

1	Maarten Stekelenburg 2	Gregory van der Wiel 3	John Heitinga 4	Joris Mathijsen 5	Jetro Willems 6	Mark van Bommel 7	Dirk Kuyt 8	Nigel de Jong 9	Robin van Persie 10	Wesley Sneijder 11	Arjen Robben 12	Khalid Boulahrouz 13	Wilfred Bouma 14	Stijn Schaars 15	Ron Vlaar 16	Michel Vorm 17	Luciano Narsingh 18	Kevin Strootman 19	Klaas-Jan Huntelaar 20	Ibrahim Afellay 21	Luuk de Jong 22	Tim Krul 23	Rafael van der Vaart

Denmark

1	Thomas Sørensen 2	Christian Poulsen 3	Simon Kjær 4	Daniel Agger 5	Simon Poulsen 6	Lars Jacobsen 7	William Kvist 8	Christian Eriksen 9	Michael Krohn-Dehli 10	Dennis Rommedahl 11	Nicklas Bendtner 12	Andreas Bjelland 13	Jores Okore 14	Lasse Schøne 15	Michael Silberbauer 16	Stephan Andersen 17	Niklas Pedersen 18	Daniel Wass 19	Jakob Poulsen 20	Thomas Kahlenberg 21	Niki Zimling 22	Anders Lindegaard 23	Tobias Mikkelsen

Portugal

1	Eduardo 2	Bruno Alves 3	Pepe 4	Miguel Veloso 5	Fábio Coentrão 6	Custódio 7	Cristiano Ronaldo 8	João Moutinho 9	Hugo Almeida 10	Ricardo Quaresma 11	Nélson Oliveira 12	Rui Patrício 13	Ricardo Costa 14	Rolando 15	Rúben Micael 16	Raul Meireles 17	Nani 18	Silvestre Varela 19	Miguel Lopes 20	Hugo Viana 21	João Pereira 22	Beto 23	Hélder Postiga

Spain

1	Iker Casillas 2	Raúl Albiol 3	Gerard Piqué 4	Javi Martínez 5	Juanfran 6	Andrés Iniesta 7	Álvaro Negredo 8	Xavi Hernández 9	Fernando Torres 10	Cesc Fàbregas 11	Jordi Alba 12	Víctor Valdés 13	Juan Mata 14	Xabi Alonso 15	Sergio Ramos 16	Sergio Busquets 17	Álvaro Arbeloa 18	Pedro Rodríguez 19	Fernando Llorente 20	Santi Cazorla 21	David Silva 22	Jesús Navas 23	Pepe Reina

Ireland

1	Shay Given 2	Sean St Ledger 3	Stephen Ward 4	John O'Shea 5	Richard Dunne 6	Glenn Whelan 7	Aiden McGeady 8	Keith Andrews 9	Kevin Doyle 10	Robbie Keane 11	Damien Duff 12	Stephen Kelly 13	Paul McShane 14	Jonathan Walters 15	Darron Gibson 16	Keiren Westwood 17	Stephen Hunt 18	Darren O'Dea 19	Shane Long 20	Simon Cox 21	Paul Green 22	David Forde 23	James McClean

Sweden

1	Andreas Isaksson 2	Mikael Lustig 3	Olof Mellberg 4	Andreas Granqvist 5	Martin Olsson 6	Rasmus Elm 7	Sebastian Larsson 8	Anders Svensson 9	Kim Källström 10	Zlatan Ibrahimović 11	Johan Elmander 12	Johan Wiland 13	Jonas Olsson 14	Tobias Hysén 15	Mikael Antonsson 16	Pontus Wernbloom 17	Behrang Safari 18	Samuel Holmén 19	Emir Bajrami 20	Ola Toivonen 21	Christian Wilhelmsson 22	Markus Rosenberg 23	Pär Hansson

England

1	Joe Hart 2	Glen Johnson 3	Ashley Cole 4	Steven Gerrard 5	Gary Cahill 6	John Terry 7	Theo Walcott 8	Frank Lampard 9	Andy Carroll 10	Wayne Rooney 11	Ashley Young 12	Leighton Baines 13	Robert Green 14	Phil Jones 15	Joleon Lescott 16	James Milner 17	Scott Parker 18	Phil Jagielka 19	Stewart Downing 20	Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain 21	Jermain Defoe 22	Danny Welbeck 23	Jack Butland http://www.thefa.com/England/News/2012/england-euro-2012-squad-numbers.aspx — Preceding unsigned comment added by KarimM3mara (talk • contribs) 09:12, 28 May 2012 (UTC)


 * Source?  mg  SH 09:19, 28 May 2012 (UTC)

Preliminary Squad Numbers
Czech

1	Petr Čech 2	Theodor Gebre Selassie 3	Michal Kadlec 4	Marek Suchý 5	Roman Hubník 6	Tomáš Sivok 7	Tomáš Necid 8	Tomáš Pekhart 9	Jan Rezek 10	Tomáš Rosický 11	Milan Petržela 12	Daniel Pudil 13	Jaroslav Plašil 14	Václav Pilař 15	Milan Baroš 16	Jan Laštůvka 17	Tomáš Hübschman 18	Daniel Kolář 19	Petr Jiráček 20	František Rajtoral 21	David Lafata 22	David Limberský 23	Jaroslav Drobný 24	Tomáš Grigar 25	Vladimír Darida

Greece

1	Kostas Chalkias 2	Giannis Maniatis 3	Giorgos Tzavelas 4	Stelios Malezas 5	Kyriakos Papadopoulos 6	Alexandros Tziolis 7	Giorgos Samaras 8	Avraam Papadopoulos 9	Nikos Lyberopoulos 10	Giorgos Karagounis 11	Kostas Mitroglou 12	Alexandros Tzorvas 13	Michalis Sifakis 14	Dimitris Salpigidis 15	Vasilis Torosidis 16	Giorgos Fotakis 17	Theofanis Gekas 18	Sotiris Ninis 19	Sokratis Papastathopoulos 20	Panagiotis Kone 21	Kostas Katsouranis 22	Grigoris Makos 23	Giannis Fetfatzidis 24	Kostas Fortounis 25	Iosif Cholevas

Germany

1	Manuel Neuer 2	Ilkay Gündogan 3	Marcel Schmelzer 4	Benedikt Höwedes 5	Mats Hummels 6	Sami Khedira 7	Bastian Schweinsteiger 8	Mesut Özil 9	André Schürrle 10	Lukas Podolski 11	Miroslav Klose 12	Tim Wiese 13	Thomas Müller 14	Holger Badstuber 15	Cacau 16	Philipp Lahm 17	Per Mertesacker 18	Toni Kroos 19	Mario Götze 20	Jérôme Boateng 21	Marco Reus 22	Ron-Robert Zieler 23	Mario Gomez 24	Julian Draxler 25	Sven Bender 26	Lars Bender 27	Marc-André ter Stegen

Croatia

1	Stipe Pletikosa 2	Ivan Strinić 3	Josip Šimunić 4	Dejan Lovren 5	Vedran Ćorluka 6	Danijel Pranjić 7	Ivan Rakitić 8	Ognjen Vukojević 9	Nikica Jelavić 10	Luka Modrić 11	Darijo Srna 12	Ivan Kelava 13	Gordon Schildenfeld 14	Nikola Kalinić 15	Domagoj Vida 16	Tomislav Dujmović 17	Mario Mandžukić 18	Ivica Olić 19	Niko Kranjčar 20	Ivan Perišić 21	Šime Vrsaljko 22	Eduardo da Silva 23	Danijel Subašić 27	Goran Blažević 26	Jurica Buljat 25	Ivo Iličević 24	Milan Badelj 25	Ivo Iličević 26	Jurica Buljat 27	Goran Blažević

France

1	Hugo Lloris 2	Mathieu Debuchy 3	Patrice Evra 4	Adil Rami 5	Philippe Mexès 6	Yohan Cabaye 7	Franck Ribéry 8	Yoann Gourcuff 9	Olivier Giroud 10	Karim Benzema 11	Samir Nasri 12	Blaise Matuidi 13	Anthony Réveillère 14	Jérémy Ménez 15	Florent Malouda 16	Steve Mandanda 17	Yann M'Vila 18	Alou Diarra 19	Marvin Martin 20	Hatem Ben Arfa 21	Mathieu Valbuena 22	Gaël Clichy 23	Cédric Carrasso 24	Laurent Koscielny 25	Mapou Yanga-Mbiwa — Preceding unsigned comment added by KarimM3mara (talk • contribs) 09:21, 28 May 2012 (UTC)

Greek Player	Dimitris Salpigidis, Tzavelas,Giorgos, Nikos Lyberopoulos
Dimitris Salpigidis is called Salpingidis -> Salpi(n)gidis Tzavelas,Giorgos is Tzavellas,Giorgos -> Tzavel(l)as Nikos Lyberopoulos is Liberopoulos,Nikos -> Nikos L(ie)beropoulos

- These errors may occur on other wikipedia entries — Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.78.64.197 (talk) 14:49, 28 May 2012 (UTC)

Wrong numbers in Poland national football team
There is correct: source uefa.com Goalkeepers 1 - Wojciech Szczęsny, 12 - Grzegorz Sandomierski, 22 - Przemysław Tytoń. Defenders: 2 - Sebastian Boenisch, 3 - Grzegorz Wojtkowiak, 4 - Marcin Kamiński, 13 - Marcin Wasilewski, 14 - Jakub Wawrzyniak, 15 - Damien Perquis, 20 - Łukasz Piszczek. Midfielders: 5 - Dariusz Dudka, 6 - Adam Matuszczyk, 7 - Eugen Polanski, 8 - Maciej Rybus, 10 - Ludovic Obraniak, 11 - Rafał Murawski, 16 - Jakub Błaszczykowski, 18 - Adrian Mierzejewski, 19 - Rafał Wolski, 21 - Kamil Grosicki. Forwards: 9 - Robert Lewandowski, 17 - Artur Sobiech, 23 - Paweł Brożek.

Changes: Kamiński   15 -> 4 Perquis   4 -> 15 Wolski    17 -> 19 Sobiech   19 -> 17  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Neo1991pl (talk • contribs) 05:16, 30 May 2012 (UTC)

Markus Rosenberg
Markus Rosenberg (Sweden) should be listed as a player of Werder Bremen instead of free agent, since his contract does not expire until 30 June 2012 and other players with expiring contracts (eg Sebastian Boenisch, Khalid Boulahrouz) are listed as players of their current clubs. — Preceding unsigned comment added by M zu dem U (talk • contribs) 07:00, 30 May 2012 (UTC)

Spanish (and portuguese) names
Why everyone has the whole name, except some of the spanish and portuguese players? The three spanish players I talk use their first name because they have extremely common surnames, but they should have their whole name in a list. They are Xavi Hernandez, Pedro Rodriguez and Juanfran Torres. Same thing for some of the portuguese names, so a portuguese guy should suggest how to put it properly. Thanks.. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Txabs77 (talk • contribs) 15:54, 31 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Probably because of WP:COMMONNAME and these are the common uses of their names in English. While that applies to article titles it is commonly used for names in articles. --Walter Görlitz (talk) 16:06, 31 May 2012 (UTC)
 * The common use of the name of English players is only the surname, and they appear with their full name. But specially Juanfran is important, because another different Juanfran (Garcia), played the 2002 World Cup, and in the 2002 WC squad article is listed as Juanfran too, and they both play as right defenders for Atl. Madrid, and it could drive to mistake. This one is Juanfran Torres. Xavi and Pedro are usually referred in spanish media as Xavi Hernandez and Pedro Rodriguez, specially since Xabi (alonso) get to Real, to distinguish them Txabs77 (talk
 * As has been mentioned, in the English media and in everyday life, you'll only ever see it as Xavi. Xavi Hernández? Never or very rarely. Given that this is an English-speaking encyclopaedia, I don't think the Spanish media is too relevant.  mg  SH 17:13, 31 May 2012 (UTC)
 * The English media also refer English players by their surnames only and it doesn't stop it to write them properly. And given that English is international speaking language, I assumed this article is not only for English speaking countries, but for everyone. http://www.uefa.com/uefaeuro/season=2012/teams/team=122/squad/index.html http://rfef.es/index.jsp?nodo=39&ID=5152  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Txabs77 (talk • contribs) 07:48, 1 June 2012 (UTC)
 * It is common to use family names. It is uncommon to use given name only and so when it happens there is generally a good reason for it. Sobriquets and nicknames are are also frequently used in sports media however we don't use them. COMMONNAME is the key here. --Walter Görlitz (talk) 13:18, 1 June 2012 (UTC)
 * I dont want to bore you guys, but just try to type Pedro or Juanfran on the search box (You're right with Xavi in English, not in Spanish). We have at least 4 football players named Pedro (only one in La Liga now, plus one in Belgium and two in second division), and two Juanfran (both in la Liga, both in Spain national team). If an encyclopedia cannot be ambiguous, I cant understand why so many problems just to call them as Spanish Federation or UEFA do. Thank you for your attention. Txabs — Preceding unsigned comment added by Txabs77 (talk • contribs) 10:18, 2 June 2012 (UTC)
 * Please change them then. It's not hugely important to me either way and I was mainly aiming for consistency with older articles in truth.  mg  SH 21:37, 2 June 2012 (UTC)

Celtic players
Please note - Poland's Paweł Brożek is Trabzonspor player (NOT Celtic, he was there on loan), Ireland's Darren O'Dea is free agent (NOT Celtic player, his contract expired in May) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 95.108.67.168 (talk) 16:42, 1 June 2012 (UTC)

Jordan Henderson and Scott Parker's squad numbers
Jordan Henderson will wear the number 8 shirt for England; Scott Parker will wear #17. http://www.uefa.com/uefaeuro/season=2012/teams/team=39/index.html — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.28.169.76 (talk) 16:47, 1 June 2012 (UTC)

What happened?
Not sure what happened, but when editing the article you can see the number of goals scored, but when checking the article they are not visible. I'm not long enough on Wikipedia to find out what went wrong here, to solve the issue. LindaSportGirl (talk) 21:11, 2 June 2012 (UTC)
 * Someone removed them in favour of sortable tables. I've reverted them to regain consistency with previous articles and provide more relevant information, so that we're on the safe side.  mg  SH 15:04, 5 June 2012 (UTC)

Arshavin
Arshavin is still an Arsenal player, only on loan at Zenit. http://www.arsenal.com/first-team/players/andrey-arshavin

Edit request on 4 June 2012 Player Presentation number of clubs in "http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UEFA_Euro_2012_squads"
Could you please check the appearance number of Werder Bremen which should be 4 instead as 3.

Also could you please check the appearance of Birmingham City and West Ham United which should appear as 1. And PSV has 7 players in the EURO 2012 (all listed in the selection tables), but is in the table at 6 players. So this should be 7. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.159.126.246 (talk) 10:11, 6 June 2012 (UTC)

Best Regards

88.235.12.255 (talk) 08:35, 4 June 2012 (UTC)
 * ✅ thanks for pointing this out. Egg   Centri  c  14:45, 5 June 2012 (UTC)

Players should be listed as representing the team they played for last season, not their recent transfer
Every club receives 270,000 Euros for each player they have participating in the tournament, so here is my issue, Dirk Kuyt is listed as a Fenerbahce player with the Netherlands, however he was called up as a Liverpool player, and Liverpool are the club which will be entitled to the money not Fenerbahce, I think the squads on the actual Wikipedia pages should be updated to represent their current club, but this list should stay true to where the players were last season. Dirk Kuyt was a Liverpool player when the squad was announced. Lasse Schone from Denmark is a good example of this, he transfered to AFC Ajax at the beginning of this month, however he is rightfully listed as an NEC Nijmegen player in this list, because they are the club who will be getting compensated for the player and not Ajax. That is also where he played at the end of the 2011/12 season. I'm sure there are other players with this issue in the list, but these were the two I noticed and felt compelled to bring attention to.

Club count wrong
Someone may need to redo the club count, I can't as I don't have an account. Liverpool are listed as having 8 players but they have 9.

This is because in the club count Kuyt is already listed as a Fenerbahce player, even though he only signed for them and still did not play for them. Fenerbahce should be removed from the list and Liverpool's number of players should be fixed to 9.Celtic1985 (talk) 16:12, 16 June 2012 (UTC)

Ćorluka
Ćorluka is a Tottenham player on loan. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vedran_%C4%86orluka — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.29.142.112 (talk) 10:49, 13 June 2012 (UTC)

Caps and Goals
The appearances and goals shouldn't be only up to 8 June? Someone his updating with the Euro 2012 caps and goals. For instance: Portuguese Cristiano Ronaldo on 8 June had 90 caps and 32 goals. As of today, 19 June, he has 93 and 34.
 * I think it should be kept before Euro commences (8 June). Demon Witch (talk) 11:04, 21 June 2012 (UTC)
 * The article says "Caps and goals correct as of 18 June 2012", but a user has been updating without updating that statement. Will we be updating this page every time a player gets another cap or another goal in the next 10 years? I think we should freeze the numbers at the pre tournament levels. Nczempin (talk) 08:42, 29 June 2012 (UTC)
 * The article is turned into a complete mess. Figures should remain frozen with the starting date of the tournament. Somoene has updated the caps and the scored goals gradually with the tournament.--Preacher lad (talk) 10:13, 15 July 2012 (UTC)
 * This issue is still unresolved and needs attention.Tffff (talk) 10:02, 1 January 2014 (UTC)