Talk:UFC 121

Hey guys, can you fix the page. It's been vandalised. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Barragan L (talk • contribs) 12:46, 23 October 2010 (UTC)

"The sport itself was actually banned from mr. Jarrett Guzzo, head butting the principle and it had been broadcast prior to 11pm[3] in Germany in March 2010[4]  due to "extent of violence shown to be unacceptable."[5]"

As far as I know (and I live in Germany), the UFC / MMA has been banned from TV alltogether. I cannot hand you an international article but the 11pm limitation as been there since DSF began to show UFC-Events.


 * I'm only going off what the source says to me. If you can find a source arguing against me, then by all means, remove the 11pm section of the sentence. Paralympiakos (talk) 15:57, 8 June 2010 (UTC)

In your own source it says that it has been banned : ''has banned mixed martial arts from being broadcast on the Munich-based cable network German Sports Television (DSF). ''

Sherdogs article (http://www.sherdog.com/news/news/Update-UFC-Banned-from-German-TV-23317) says

The Ultimate Fighting Championship has been banned from German television.

'' The BLM decision did not state an exact date when the UFC programming would no longer be allowed to air. ''

''“That is why we deem the sudden ban unusual as the content of our programming has not changed. We have also had a commission for youth protection in the media review the situation and they deemed the broadcast legal if televised after 11 p.m.” '' (the situation beforce it was banned)

Therefore I will edit this sentence, and by no means I wanted to pick on the article. I think it is great there is someone like you doing this great work.

Regards —Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.79.159.105 (talk) 17:09, 8 June 2010 (UTC)


 * No worries then. Good work. Paralympiakos (talk) 17:07, 9 June 2010 (UTC)

Machida vs Jackson
Does anyone have an additional source for this? I'm getting a 404 when I click the cited link. I'm removing it until we get something concrete. Linknumbers (talk) 04:23, 10 July 2010 (UTC)

another fight added
camozzi yang now official —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.183.253.122 (talk) 07:47, 19 August 2010 (UTC)

WHY DOES CAIN HAVE THE ANGOLIAN FLAG NEXT TO HIS NAME?! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.181.5.172 (talk) 21:38, 16 October 2010 (UTC)

Cain Velasquez and Flag for UFC 121
I changed Chain Velasquez's flag to Mexico as per MOS:FLAG because the UFC is advertising he is competing in this event and will be representing Mexico. Specifically they state he is "trying to become the first Mexican UFC Champion." The MoS state that an athlete's flag should be of their sporting nationality, not true nationality. Therefore, for this event, the Mexican flag is the most appropriate. --TreyGeek (talk) 14:40, 18 October 2010 (UTC)

The advertising says Cain is trying to be the first Mexican Heavyweight champion. Not Mexican UFC chmapion as there have been fighters with mexican heritage you have been champion (Tito Ortiz) It doesn't matter what the advertising says. Wait until the Pay Per View. you will see the flag under Cain's name will be American. He was born and raised in America therefore making him an American of Mexican decent. The UFC is hyping this Mexican thing to appeal to the Mexican and the rest of the Latin American community. Solidmemory (talk) 18:09, 18 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Again, I would urge you to actually read MOS:FLAG. Particularly the bit that says, "Flags should never indicate the player's nationality in a non-sporting sense; flags should only indicate the sportsperson's national squad/team or representative nationality."  In other words, it doesn't matter where Velasquez was born.  If he wants to represent India for UFC 121, then he gets an Indian flag for UFC 121.  In this case, it appears from the advertising that he is electing to represent Mexico and thus the Mexican flag is the most appropriate.  --TreyGeek (talk) 04:49, 19 October 2010 (UTC)

MOS:FLAG Needs to be changed--N2492004 (talk) 04:59, 19 October 2010 (UTC)


 * If we're going by MOS:FLAG then technically the flag should be where the fighter's training camp is, as Bruce Buffer states, "fighting out of.." (Justinsane15 (talk) 23:59, 20 October 2010 (UTC))


 * No.....because they aren't representing that nation; they're just training in it.  Paralympiakos  (talk) 19:07, 21 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Tell that to the guys from AKA who refuse to fight each other... or better yet tell that to the boys from Cesar Gracie.(Justinsane15 (talk) 01:04, 22 October 2010 (UTC))
 * This brings up a good issue (probably more suited for the MMA WikiProject talk page). I agree that fighters represent their gym or training group moreso than any particular country.  Using that argument, there should be no national flag placed next to fighter's names, only flags representing the gym they are representing (if those flags existed).   --TreyGeek (talk) 20:10, 21 October 2010 (UTC)

Edit request from 24.131.187.17, 19 October 2010
Cain Velasquez is American not Mexican. He's from Mexican heritage but he was born in the US so he's technically an American.

24.131.187.17 (talk) 01:26, 19 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. Thanks, Stickee (talk)  01:46, 19 October 2010 (UTC)

Apparently advertising campaigns means more than being born and raised in a certain country--N2492004 (talk) 02:31, 19 October 2010 (UTC)


 * Cain is quite clearly representing Mexico in this fight. Not a single thing has been made of his American citizenship in the build-up. I would change the flag back to Mexico, but I know that troublemakers such as yourself will just revert it.  Paralympiakos  (talk) 13:58, 23 October 2010 (UTC)

Incorrect information about the Cain vs. Lesnar fight outcome. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 206.116.194.4 (talk) 12:36, 23 October 2010 (UTC)

Fight's no longer "upcoming"
Subject says it all. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Erlandish (talk • contribs) 04:42, 24 October 2010 (UTC)