Talk:UK Hazard Perception Test

"25 Clicks"
"Excessive clicking will result in that question's score being discounted from the total (the exact threshold is 25 clicks in each clip)."

I read this before going into my theory test this morning. I went in thinking I had a budget of 25 clicks to use in each clip, and so felt free to liberally sprinkle extra clicks in my responses, just to be on the safe side. On the double hazard clip, I was disqualified for inappropriate clicks, although I was far below the magical "25 clicks". There must be some more complex system in place. Googling "25 clicks" + DSA produces only this article and its mirrors. I'm taking it out as it is either entirely inaccurate, or is missing enough of the story to be misleading. I don't think it should come back unless someone can find a reliable source and can fill in the whole story. Gantlord 12:38, 20 March 2007 (UTC) p.s. I still passed though :-)


 * I believe the test also responds to systematic clicking of the mouse buttons. Alex Barrett 15:21, 17 May 2007 (UTC)


 * If it can't be sourced, it doesn't belong here (ie., no original research...). The DSA literature clearly indicates excessive clicking will result in no credit for the segment, but the DSA keep the exact criterion to themselves.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.159.215.11 (talk) 21:20, August 28, 2007 (UTC)

It is more accurate to say that the software will detect 'rhythmic clicking' rather than the number of clicks recorded, it's meant to be a failsafe to prevent cheating by just constantly clicking, you are meant to 'engage' with the scenarios mspice2215 82.34.55.108 11:27, 1 November 2007 (UTC)

Ladyman info
I'm going to try and dig out accident stats for the years in question, to see if there are relevant comments on whether drivers had hazard perception or not, but I somehow doubt it. MartinRe 18:25, 4 February 2006 (UTC)
 * Anyone have a link/date/reference for when he took the test, and what score he got, if known?
 * Similarly, anyone know what research he is referring to in the commons speech?
 * Found a report which looks like it would be useful, but it's a paid for one (http://www.trl.co.uk/store/report_detail.asp?srid=4563) MartinRe 18:34, 4 February 2006 (UTC)


 * My BSM "Pass Your Driving Theory Test" book (which is basically a 190 page BSM advert) devotes several pages to justifying the HPT but the only reference it gives is "DETR Road Safety Research Series No.2 - Novice Drivers Safety" which is used for the statistic 17-21 year old hold 7% of licenses but account for 13% of crashes, or words to that effect. Although how that tallies with "As many as one in five new drivers has a crash in the first year" is beyond me.--Pypex 19:23, 19 May 2006 (UTC)


 * The current accident rate for younger drivers is under 25s hold 11% of driving licenses, but are involved in 25% of accidents.


 * Actually, the is no evidence that the HPT increases driver skill/ reduces accidents. A report confirms this which will be published later this year - maybe someone'd like to FOI it later on?


 * And you know the findings of this un-published report how? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.159.215.11 (talk) 21:33, August 28, 2007 (UTC)

Comments
I tried to put anything non-format related into a different section, but couldn't think of anything appropriate for the Ladyman references. "Effectiveness" of the test, maybe, if sources can be found debating whether the test makes any difference or not? MartinRe 18:47, 4 February 2006 (UTC)