Talk:UK drill

Dispute over year of origin
Hello. The first line of the article states that UK Drill originated in the year 2012. In reality, the sources cited refer to Chicago Drill originating in 2012, not UK Drill. The sound of UK Drill began in 2015-2016, and before that it was just UK rappers copying Chicago. Sources:

https://www.vice.com/en/article/k7e4xe/third-phase-uk-drill https://pollen.co/article/the-evolution-of-uk-drill-and-why-its-set-to-stay https://www.ft.com/content/7ebb9caa-c632-11e8-86e6-19f5b7134d1c. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2600:1700:4030:8310:D16D:6886:801B:FC4D (talk) 23:00, 6 July 2021 (UTC)
 * This isn't true. UK Drill gained its own unique sound circa 2015, yes, but 150 were making drill music all the way back in 2013 at the earliest. While it was heavily influenced by Chicago, it was still 'UK dril'. Much in the same way New York Drill pre-2016 vs New York Drill post-2016 sounds very different.

UK drill is a subgenre of drill music and road rap that originated in the South London district of Brixton from 2012 onwards.[1][2][3] Initially borrowing heavily from the style of Chicago drill music before creating its own unique sound, UK drill artists often rap about violent and hedonistic criminal lifestyles.[4][1] Typically, those who create this style of music are affiliated with gangs or come from socioeconomically-deprived neighbourhoods where crime is a way of life for many.[1] — Preceding unsigned comment added by KLJBeatz (talk • contribs) 02:05, 25 May 2022 (UTC)

Typical instruments
Does any uk drill producer really use "sampler" or "drum machine". It seems to me like all they use is DAW of some sort and that's about it. Also consider that most of them are heavily impoverished so owning expensive hardware isn't really for them, speaking about uk drill producers. 178.121.33.109 (talk) 10:01, 2 July 2022 (UTC)

Groups
Several Gangs Emerged at the Forefront of UK Drill Notable Sets Include: 410 (Myatts Field, Brixton) 150 (Angell Town, Brixton) Siraq (Somerleyton, Brixton) KuKu (Kennington) 37 (Wandsworth/Southfields/Roehampton/Battersea/Clapham Junction) LxDrive (Roehampton) Lettsom (Camberwell) MNS (Pollards Hill) Silwood Nation (Rotherhithe/South Bermondsey) 814/14th (New Cross) 8th (Deptford) Pepys (Deptford) AR (Brockley) Block 6 (Catford) 31.94.21.5 (talk) 23:17, 28 March 2023 (UTC)