Talk:UPS Airlines

Importance rating
Despite this article being about a UPS subsidiary (and UPS being of high-importance to Louisville), I'm electing to make this article of low importance because of UPS Air's minimal impact on Louisville and other areas. --Carl (talk 17:22, 10 April 2007 (UTC)


 * As a clarification, if the original rating explanation was not clear enough (and I'm now sure how it isn't), this article is about the actual air service, not the company. Personally, this article needs to be merged into the main UPS article, as there is not so much information in this article that it would be unwieldy for the main UPS article. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Braindrain0000 (talk • contribs) 15:54, 25 June 2007 (UTC-8)

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747-400F orders
How is it that this article says that UPS has orders for four more 747-400F aircraft? Boeing has stopped producing 747-400F; the last one, as shown |here, left the factory in April 2009. Are these orders for used aircraft? Also, shortly after the table, it says that 747-400F orders were to be delivered starting in June 2007 and to go on through 2008. Should all of this be fixed up? C628 (talk) 23:58, 30 December 2009 (UTC)
 * UPS says they have four orders on their website...These must be used orders from other airlines. Example: FedEx Express has orders for 757s but Boeing stopped producing the 757 a few years ago.Spikydan1 (talk) 02:07, 31 December 2009 (UTC)

Furlough
Doesnt appear to be particularly notable just a way the company is dealing with a downturn, I presume that is the case because it doesnt really explain. Appears to be written like a union press release, do we need to just remove it? MilborneOne (talk) 12:41, 21 December 2010 (UTC)


 * I agree that by itself, it certainly isn't very notable. It most likely was added as a section because that was the only way to integrate it into the article (it doesn't have anything to do with destinations, the fleet, or incidents).  If there was a section with content relating to UPS Airlines and its history, perhaps this section could be deleted and added there in a brief sentence or two.  As such, there is no means of doing so.  -SteveCof00 (talk) 09:04, 22 December 2010 (UTC)

Crash Date
Does anyone else think that this is odd that a major crash happened exactly three years before 9/11? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Phillies9513 (talk • contribs) 00:31, 6 April 2011 (UTC)
 * What do you mean ? Three years is an odd number of years ? --80.185.70.238 (talk) 19:20, 28 September 2013 (UTC)

Proposed merge (2013) with UPS Airlines Flight 1354

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Not notable, fails WP:NOTNEWS & WP:NEVENT should be merged / redirected here.  LGA talk  edits   08:03, 10 September 2013 (UTC)

I disagree. A crash of a large airliner is notable, and other crashes of civil cargo aircraft have articles dedicated to them; c.f. National Airlines Flight 102 and FedEx_Express_Flight_80. —Bpogi (talk) 02:07, 23 September 2013 (UTC)
 * WP:OTHERCRAPEXISTS is no reason to keep it, without the demonstrated lasting effect it is only worthy of a mention.  LGA talk  edits   11:47, 23 September 2013 (UTC)
 * I was speaking to the "reinforced by established practice" portion of WP:NEVENT. While this may be a case of "recentism," with the investigation barely having started, it's hard to say yet whether there is a lasting effect as required by that guideline, but as it notes: "It may take weeks or months to determine whether or not an event has a lasting effect. This does not, however, mean recent events with unproven lasting effect are automatically non-notable." —Bpogi (talk) 14:44, 25 September 2013 (UTC)

disagree - Enough content to keep a separate article. If you merge it in it will add a fair length to the already longish UPS article. Very similar to other airline articles. --JetBlast (talk) 12:26, 23 September 2013 (UTC)
 * Does not address the issue with the issue of UPS Airlines Flight 1354 not meeting WP:NOTNEWS; a redirect here is better than outright deletion at WP:AFD.  LGA talk  edits   21:07, 23 September 2013 (UTC)

disagree As for what Bpogi was saying, the investigation has just started so we do not know if it will have a lasting effect, as well it is very similar to other articles, so no need to delete it. And as for not being not notable it is, because it temporarily shut down airport, there were loss of lives, and it was a hull loss. —Martinillo (talk) 02:25, 29 September 2013 (UTC)

This has now been nominated for deletion here. — Lfdder (talk) 10:15, 30 September 2013 (UTC)

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Requested move 26 May 2022

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The result of the move request was: not moved. Mainly on natural disambiguation grounds; even the company itself does the same. (non-admin closure) — Ceso femmuin mbolgaig mbung, mellohi! (投稿) 02:35, 10 June 2022 (UTC)

– I can't find any sources referring to this airline as "UPS Airlines". Over here, neither the media:,, nor official sources: , ,  are referring to this airline as "UPS Airlines". It seems that UPS (United Parcel Service) is not only the common name, but also the official name of the airline. Should be moved per WP:COMMONNAME. Idmsdmsalescaleneiviq (talk) 08:03, 26 May 2022 (UTC) — Relisting. >>> Extorc . talk  09:44, 2 June 2022 (UTC)
 * UPS Airlines → UPS (airline)
 * UPS Airlines Flight 6 → UPS Flight 6
 * UPS Airlines Flight 1354 → UPS Flight 1354
 * Oppose. UPS Airlines appears to be its name.  The official twitter account and the official YouTube page are for UPS Airlines.  The UPS Document, "Preparing for Tomorrow's Supply Chain", at  (pdf) repeatedly refers to UPS Airlines.  Press releases appearing in publications such as  (requires subscription to see beyond the headline and first sentence) show the use of UPS Airlines.   That's just what I turned up when I did a google search for "UPS Airlines" with the quotation marks.  There were enough examples of it being used that I didn't search further.  RecycledPixels (talk) 07:35, 3 June 2022 (UTC)
 * Oppose WP:NATURALDAB per RecycledPixels -- 64.229.88.43 (talk) 03:55, 4 June 2022 (UTC)
 * Even then, the WP:COMMONNAME is still UPS not UPS Airlines, even in official sources seen above. And there is a dedicatedwebsite for the airline mentioning it as "UPS Air Cargo": . And also, Natural Disambiguation still does not quite take a higher level of authority than COMMONNAME does. See this: Idmsdmsalescaleneiviq (talk) 01:52, 5 June 2022 (UTC)

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 * Oppose WP:NATURALDAB per RecycledPixels, as we can't move the article to UPS. And please beware of WP:BADGER. BilCat (talk) 03:35, 5 June 2022 (UTC)

Any passengers at all?
I wonder if the less-used routes are used at all for passengers. For instance, no direct passenger routes between Edmonton AB and Calgary AB or anything north from Sioux Falls. Alternatively is extra 1000 miles / hours to Denver. 49.147.202.34 (talk) 06:57, 29 January 2023 (UTC)


 * UPS does not offer passenger flights. UPS employees can jump seat but only when pre-approved by the Chief Pilot and Management. 108.86.215.183 (talk) 22:07, 15 July 2023 (UTC)


 * Along with the above answer (which applies only to flight crew employees) there were a few aircraft that were converted back-and-forth for use on passenger charter flights (during the early 1990s). This is mentioned in the article (the aircraft have been retired for a long time now).  But outside of the flight crew, it's pretty much just what ends up on the brown trucks that flies on the UPS planes.  -SteveCof00 (talk) 09:16, 14 August 2023 (UTC)

Requested move 13 May 2023

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The result of the move request was: Not Moved (non-admin closure) >>> Extorc . talk  18:14, 19 May 2023 (UTC)

UPS Airlines → UPS Air Cargo – Cannot find any UPS sources confirming that the airline is indeed called “UPS Airlines”. Meanwhile https://www.aircargo.ups.com/ exists, leading me to believe that that is the real name of the airline. It seems any sources calling the airline “UPS Airlines” likely got that title from Wikipedia itself, as I don’t see where else they would have. SurferSquall (talk) 04:30, 13 May 2023 (UTC) The discussion above is closed. <b style="color: #FF0000;">Please do not modify it.</b> Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
 * Oppose - UPS Air Cargo seems more about the service than the airline itself. There isn't all that much out there for either name, but the official UPS Airline Twitter account, the IATA website, and the FAA are extremely unlikely to have gotten the name from Wikipedia. BilCat (talk) 04:41, 13 May 2023 (UTC)
 * Oppose – Per the issues BilCat identified above -- RickyCourtney (talk) 16:27, 13 May 2023 (UTC)
 * Oppose - The title definitely predates sources outside of Wikipedia (both company and government-supported websites) and UPS Air Cargo is a heavy-freight air service that coexists with the small-package volume aboard the aircraft (overnight air delivery service competing with FedEx, Amazon).  -SteveCof00 (talk) 10:41, 14 May 2023 (UTC)

Information
Besides the article information about UPS the background lacks knowledge and key aspects about how UPS successfully distributes it's business worldwide 105.12.6.110 (talk) 10:12, 24 April 2024 (UTC)