Talk:USAAF Boeing B-17 crash on North Barrule

Which squadron?
All of the internet sites I have found so far which mention the squadron, state it was the 534th, not the 533rd. YSSYguy (talk) 07:53, 8 May 2014 (UTC)


 * , the quoted source definitely says 533d. tThat source gives the identifier "M" but not the squadron codes. According to List of accidents and incidents involving military aircraft (1945–49), the squadron codes were GD-M, per a book source which I do not have. We know the tail number and where the aircraft took off from. Question is, where were the 533d and 534th based in April 1945? Mjroots (talk) 21:35, 13 May 2014 (UTC)
 * according to its article, the 381st BG was made up of the 532nd, 533rd, 534th and 535th Bomb Squadrons, so it could have been either. Baugher's site has it as a 534th machine, and "GD" is the code for the 534th. This says 533rd, but this from the same website says 534th and squadron code "GD". YSSYguy (talk) 22:50, 13 May 2014 (UTC)
 * I have just searched the American Battle Monuments Commission website; there are eight records for those on board, of which there were personnel from three squadrons of the 381st BG (none of them the 533rd), and one each from the 858th Engineer Squadron, 432nd Air Service Group and the 432nd Squadron, 432nd Air Service Group, the pilot was from the 534th. Findagrave lists every person on board; two of the crew have no unit specified, the other five were all from the 534th. Most but not all the passengers have a unit specified; of those that do, only one was from the 533rd BS, most were from the 532nd and 534th. One was from the 881st Chemical Company. YSSYguy (talk) 00:14, 14 May 2014 (UTC)

What was he doing at 500 feet anywhere near that area. Equates to suicide-murder.--Petebutt (talk) 23:51, 8 May 2014 (UTC)

Number of crew vs. passengers
This web page has the aircraft flown by a crew of seven. While I doubt that the website would pass muster as a reliable source, I also doubt that there were only the two pilots acting as crewmembers - a B-17 would be impossible to fly from England to Ireland without a radio operator and navigator at the very least. YSSYguy (talk) 22:56, 14 May 2014 (UTC)