Talk:USS Constitution

How many people are actually running this ship?
60 enlisted--or 6 + 46? This article conflicts with itself in the Intro and the "Present Day" sections.

"As she is a fully commissioned Navy ship, her crew of 60 officers and sailors participate in ceremonies, educational programs, and special events while keeping her open to visitors year round and providing free tours."

versus

"The mission of Constitution is to promote understanding of the Navy's role in war and peace through active participation in public events and education through outreach programs, public access, and historic demonstration.[218] Her crew of 6 officers and 46 enlisted participate in ceremonies..."

I don't know if I need to cite a source for the math here... but 60 <> 46 + 6

--Cal1gula (talk) 22:25, 29 December 2021 (UTC)


 * The part of the lead that stated "60 officers and enlisted" was not sourced, but was likely dependent on the the "1925 restoration and tour" section, that stated the ship had a crew of 60 in 1931.


 * The "Present day" section that stated a crew "6+46", had two refs attached, but one ref actually stated a crew of "75" while the other ref didn't mention any crew numbers at all. I corrected that to say "75" and changed the lead to state "75" as well, as it's referring to the present day and is dependent on that section. The article should be ok now, wrt to current day crew numbers. -  wolf  09:32, 30 December 2021 (UTC)

The chase needs clarification
how is it that the British ships were able to chase constitution since they were sharing the same winds? Also, my past reading said that the British were unable to kedge, presumably because their boats would have been under fire from constitution. some support is given by the Fischer painting, which shows no British boats out. The situation leads to the same question, how could they close with Constitution in the first place? I think this needs an explicit reference. Humphrey Tribble (talk) 02:29, 29 May 2022 (UTC)

Correction to HMS Bonne Citoyenne cargo
"[HMS] Bonne Citoyenne was reportedly carrying $1.6 million in spices to England"

No. Not spices. Specie; that is, coined money; silver and gold coins. The line should read "[HMS] Bonne Citoyenne was reportedly carrying $1.6 million in specie to England"

J Fenimore Cooper, History of the Navy of the United States of America, v2, Chapter VI, pp 67-68. 180.229.94.40 (talk) 06:21, 8 December 2022 (UTC)
 * Today, someone (was it you?) using 72.204.54.180 made this same suggested edit, but did not attach a source to it. - w o lf  13:44, 16 December 2022 (UTC)

Corrections to the Quasi-War
Can someone verify that the first ship engaged by the USS Constitution, as mentioned by reference 32? Please and thank you. 128.177.55.100 (talk) 03:27, 24 January 2023 (UTC)
 * Re: "
 * Yes, this appears to be correct. the French ship Niger was the first ship captured by Constitution in 1798.