Talk:USS Iwo Jima (LPH-2)

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The catastrophic failure was caused by improper fasteners (nuts) installed on the valve. Shipyard workers accidentally installed brass fasteners that had a black oxide finish on them, resembling the hardened steel nuts that should have been used. This type of fasteners cam to be known as BOBCTF's. BLACK OXIDE BRASS COATED THREADED FASTENERS. The Navy had all fasteners of this type over 1/4 inch removed for it's store rooms on all ships and at all supply centers. Dave B/Evil MPA

Steam Line Rupture :: Re*Cycling Lessons Learned?
I'm surprised nobody's added anything about the Steam Line Rupture, considering its importance to the navy's QA program.

If I can find any references (so I'm not going by faulty memory), I guess I'll get a' crackin' on it. Izuko 18:40, 11 December 2005 (UTC)

- 29 Oct 90 UN passes UN Resolution 674 calling for the release of Hostages

30 October 1990 *** 10 x US sailors Killed during steam line rupture on USS Iwo Jima. Saddam puts his armed forces on "maximum extreme alert".

01 Nov 90 President & SecDef announce the plan to deploy another 100,000 to the Gulf in order that force ratios be more compatible for offensive operations. This would double forces. Decision kept Secret until 4Nov90

Source: http://www.sci.fi/~fta/Day-0b.htm RJBurkhart 14:19, 26 December 2005 (UTC) - During DESERT STORM the ship took part in deception maneuvers meant to make the Iraquis believe that an amphibious landing was about to take place which held some of their forces to defend against that eventuality.

Tragedy struck on 30 October, 1990 when IWO JIMA suffered a high pressure steam valve sustained a catastrophic mechanical failure that cost the lives of 10 of its crew but repairs kept her fully operational. A steam turbine valve in the fireroom sustained a catastrophic mechanical failure. This failure resulted in the release of superheated steam at a temperature of 850 degrees Fahrenheit in the fireroom.

Source: http://www.megalink.net/~yujack/sigh/iwo/ship.htm RJBurkhart 14:54, 26 December 2005 (UTC)

US Naval Institute Resources
US Naval Institute Military Reunions Service USS IWO JIMA (LPH-2/LHD-7) ASSOCIATION Status: Confirmed Norfolk/Virginia Beach (Hampton Roads Area) 10/16/2003 - 10/19/2003 http://www.navalinstitute.org/Reunions/reunions_past.html?CurrentPage=31&Submit=Next USS Iwo Jima Assault Amphibious Interactiva Amphibious Assault USS Iwo Jima LPH-2 facts and images (NavSource Online) > US Naval Institute www.usni.org/resources/LHA/LHA_Tarawa.htm ... www.interactiva.org/.../North_America/United_States/ http://Government/Military/Navy/Ships/Amphibious/Assault/ i4CQuest-Keywords: USNI.org Iwo Jima (LPH-2) RJBurkhart 14:33, 26 December 2005 (UTC)

Apollo 13 Primary Recovery Ship (1970)
On March 2, 1970 IWO JIMA went to sea for a week to conduct exercises off the coast of California. During this period she began rehearsing for the recovery of Apollo 13 by practicing the recovery of dummy command module and by conducting carrier qualifications for Antisubmarine Helicopter Squadron FOUR (HS-4).

On the 21st of March, IWO JIMA sailed from San Diego, California for Pearl Harbor and for the next three days finalized all preparations for the recovery operation and arrived at Pearl Harbor on the 26th.

On the March 30, 1970 IWO went to sea in the local operating area off Hawaii for an intensive three day training period during which she conducted four (4) full scale simulated exercises (SIMEX), going through the entire recovery evolution from "splashdown" to recovery of the command module.. Upon return to Pearl Harbor, the Mobile Quarantine Facility (MQF) was onloaded and on the 3rd the presail conference was held aboard.

A SIMEX was conducted on April 8th and again on April 11th. The 11th marked the launch of Apollo 13 and found Iwo on station for a possible abort.

After the successful trans lunar insertion of Apollo 13, IWO proceeded slowly north again following an imaginary (virtual) point in the ocean which would mark the (spacecraft's) splashdown if anything went wrong and the spacecraft had to return to earth prematurely.

On the April 13th another SIMEX was conducted and it was that night that IWO received word that an abort was indeed to occur due to an explosion on board the spacecraft.

Source: http://www.megalink.net/~yujack/sigh/iwo/apollo.htm RJBurkhart 15:54, 26 December 2005 (UTC)

Search and Rescue (SAR) Sea Surveillance Systems
The Assistant Navigator (TAD) detached from FOCCPAC at Kunia Hawaii observed high-precision navigation results acquired from the DARPA Satellite navigation system (SRNS-1) loaded into two sea-land cargo containers. These were secured onto Iwo Jima's flight deck during the series of off-shore capsule recovery simulation exercises (SIMEX) cited above.

This pioneering SAR use of advanced radio technologies off-set known LORAN limitations Also see: Radio navigation and 20th Century History of radio Wikipedia articles.

Sources ... Wikipedia: Satellite "Radio Navigation System"

This peaceful application of high technology pre-staged development of more advanced WWMCCS Ocean Surveillance Systems (OSS) for "Navy Control" and "Protection of Shipping" (NCAPS)

See also: USS Indianapolis (CA-35) leadership learning relationships RJBurkhart 14:58, 2 January 2006 (UTC)
 * NCAPS Movement Reporting: for Pacific Rim

Precision Navigation Systems
Precision navigation systems also improved NTDS Interoperability for Anti-Submarine Warfare between interdependent operating units. RJBurkhart 22:28, 29 December 2005 (UTC)
 * "Navy Tactical Data Systems" (NTDS) "Human Factors" "Network Centric Warfare"

Sea Surveillance Sidebar (1970-2005)
The FOCCPAC-Kunia Naval Data Center (C322) coordinated a ship movement data integrity assurance prototype.

This decision science pilot graphically displayed estimated location differences for underway surface ships:

[A] Position of Intended Movement (PIM) from operatonal movement reports (MOVREP) [B] National Weather Service (NWS) synoptic weather report position reporting. [C] Position estimates based upon shipboard Loran-C information resources. [D] DARPA-funded SRNS-1 global positioning systems for precision navigation. Don Bennett Information warfare Mass concentration MH-53 Pave Low Microwave Landing System Positioning Reflection seismology
 * Precision navigation: Where cited?

Decision science: Applied operations research results
Further US Navy applied operations research efforts by Naval Reserve Systems Analysis Divisions (NRSAND) ... included:

[E] Exception detection using differential calculus to improve time-critical GDSS capabilites for Anti-Submarine Warfare (ASW).

[F] Forwarding derived feedback loop protocols as a vital Ocean Surveillance future systems requirement.

[G] Refining automated data exception detetion programs later adapted as computer-assited audit techniques (CAAT) by Certified Information Systems Auditors (CISA) after 1982 to help combat expanding Computer insecurity...

[H] The Oklahoma Mesonet, a state-of-the-art network of environmental monitoring stations that are an OSU-OU Partnership, won a special award from the American Meteorological Society (AMS), the nation's leading professional society for those in the atmospheric and related sciences. This program's data integrity information assurance traces its roots to innovative FOCCPAC (C32/C35) operations research.

[I] OK-First: Wins recognition for innovative government programs.

[J] Crisis Management Presponse: Poster session prepared for WCDM-2005 Conference in Toronto, Canada. It distills reusable learning objects to stimulate new World Conference on Disaster Management futures studies.

RJBurkhart 01:51, 6 January 2006 (UTC)
 * WCDM-2005_Burkhart-5107pm.htm Visual Learning Labs for Changing Face …

Copyvio: boiler accident
I rewrote the boiler accident section to remove a massive copyright violation from the source. — Johan the Ghost seance 04:11, 19 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Actually, since that site is produced and maintained by the united states military and hence the federal government, it is in the public domain. Thus, not a copyright violation. I have reverted accordingly. -MBK004 04:25, 19 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Hey MBK, I appreciate your thoughts, but actually I think you may be wrong: the article starts with this author info:

Anatomy of a Catastrophic Boiler Accident By David G. Peterson Loss Control Inspector Indiana Insurance Company
 * and ends with

©2002, The National Board of Boiler and Pressure Vessel Inspectors. All rights reserved.
 * The fact that it has been uploaded to a Navy web site is irrelevant -- the notices in the article indicate that this is not a creation of the US government. Eg. if I gave the Navy permission to quote an article of mine on their web site, that wouldn't make it suddenly public domain.  Am I right? — Johan the Ghost seance 04:53, 19 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Absolutely, I did not see that. I've undone my revert. -MBK004 05:05, 19 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Thanks! — Johan the Ghost seance 05:08, 19 June 2008 (UTC)

10 Degree List?
An unamed officer in the November 2008 issue of The Marine Corps gazzette (page 16) states "the first LHA(R) USS America (LHA 6), could be the old USS Iwo Jima (LPH 2) without the ten degree list." Does anyone know what ten degree list is being discussed? Thomas.j.schmidt@usmc.mil (talk) 21:32, 29 December 2008 (UTC)

Ten degrees is too much!. The Oliver Hazard Perry class FFG are build/designed with a minor list when pierside, and engines shutdown. When operation the torque of the engine/propeller and shaft brings the ship to an even keel. This ship is again a single shaft vessel, it might be something similiar here. Wfoj2 (talk) 01:41, 18 March 2012 (UTC)

Fire of summer '73
I remember a fire on board in the summer of 1973. We were on a training mission. It was near the armory and the fuel tanks. I remember black smoke and people getting hurt. At first it was believed to be an enlisted man, but was found out to be an Officer who was quickly taken off the ship. Please hit me up if u remember. keriro74@yahoo.comKeriro74 (talk) 20:54, 10 March 2011 (UTC)

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Not the 1st amphibious assault ship
Hello, the statement "the first ship to be designed and built from the keel up as an amphibious assault ship. " should be removed. Even the referenced article amphibious assault ship writes: ''Shinshū Maru (神州丸 or 神洲丸) and Akitsu Maru (あきつ丸) were ships of the Japanese Imperial Army during World War II. She was the world's first landing craft carrier ship to be designed as such, and a pioneer of modern-day amphibious assault ships. '' Is there any argument not to remove the statement? --JuergenKlueser (talk) 19:48, 23 May 2020 (UTC)


 * Several arguments, actually. Amphibious assault ships operate helicopters, which these ships did not, and that's a key part of the role. More importantly, Wikipedia depends on what reliable sources say, and neither claim is cited. Also, amphibious assault ship and amphibious warfare ship are often used interchangeably, but the former is a subset of the latter, which is a much broader category. I'd certainly like to see what reliable sources consider the Japanese ships to be amphibious assault ships in the modern sense, which the Iwo Jimas obviously are. There is a tendency to take modern terms and retroactively apply them to earlier designs, often to be able to claim that these designs are the first. But again, we don't do our own research, but publish what reliable sources state. - BilCat (talk)


 * The use of modern terms is a good argument. When I follow the link to her class, there is written The Iwo Jima-class amphibious assault ships of the United States Navy were the first amphibious assault ships designed and built as dedicated helicopter carriers. IMHO this makes it very clear and does not provide room for misinterpretation. Would you also this as a good solution? --JuergenKlueser (talk) 07:08, 24 May 2020 (UTC)


 * After no objections we can assume that the statement in the main article is more exact and understandable. --JuergenKlueser (talk) 05:33, 27 May 2020 (UTC)