Talk:USS Juneau (CL-52)

"splashing"
Please introduce this word properly, or replace with "shoot down" etc 85.227.226.168 17:50, 20 May 2007 (UTC)

Pronuceation
How is the ships name pronunced? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.226.24.105 (talk) 04:56, 20 February 2008 (UTC)

Factual Innacuracy
There seems to be an innacuracy on this page:

"While awaiting rescue, all but 10 died from the elements and savage shark attacks, including Captain Swenson and the two remaining Sullivan brothers. (The other three died as a direct result of the 2nd torpedo.) (Kurzman, 1994)."

However other postings mention that all five Sullivan brothers have died on the attack. See: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sole_Survivor_Policy and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sullivan_brothers (24.170.177.103 (talk) 05:48, 10 November 2008 (UTC))

Wreck location
Is the wreck location listed accurate? The Official Chronology of the US Navy in WWII lists -10.56667°N, 161.73333°W, which is on land in the midst of San Christobal Island. The coordinates were added in 2011 as -10.56667°N, 161.06667°W (44' changed to 04') along with a link to uboat.net which lists the incorrect 44' location matching the chronology. Any of those numbers could contain a typo, do we have a source that says the typo is 44' = 04'? The reason I ask is USS Ballard lists in 20 November 1942 war diary that they recovered 2 survivors near -11.18333°N, 161.96667°W, which is about 75 miles SE of the location listed as the sinking. I know it was several days later, but still, 75 miles seems like a long distance. Are we 100% certain on the -10.56667°N, 161.06667°W location and what is our source? --Dual Freq (talk) 16:57, 25 April 2015 (UTC)


 * I don't know what source they use, but the Combined Fleet - I-26 page says "JUNEAU sinks in about 20 seconds at -10.55°N, 161.05°W." which is about 2 miles from the -10.56667°N, 161.06667°W location we are listing, so that would seem to back up the location we have. --Dual Freq (talk) 17:04, 25 April 2015 (UTC)


 * Report from Gilbert G. Hoover, Commanding Officer, USS Helena titled "Submarine Torpedo Attack on Task Unit and sinking of USS Juneau, report of" dated 14 Nov 1942 says they were at location -10.56833°N, 161.06667°W, course 180, speed 18 knots at 1101, the beginning of the attack with San Francisco 1000 yards north and Juneau 800 yards off SF's starboard quarter. There is also an attached hand drawn diagram. Which seems to validate what we have as well, so I guess the two survivors drifted over 70 miles before they were rescued by Ballard 7 days later, on the 20th. --Dual Freq (talk) 17:45, 25 April 2015 (UTC)

Results
As a result of the five Sullivan brothers being lost, the Navy no longer allows members of the same family to serve on the same ship at the same time. 209.193.29.31 (talk) 00:35, 26 October 2022 (UTC)


 * Not true. There were two pair of brothers on USS Olympia in the '80s, and one pair on USS Providence around 2001. 104.153.40.58 (talk) 15:03, 12 August 2023 (UTC)


 * I have also heard of the stated change of policy. Since the cited exceptions came 40 years later, perhaps the restriction only applied to wartime.
 * Update: Or perhaps it was unofficial policy. See Sole Survivor Policy. BMJ-pdx (talk) 03:39, 26 January 2024 (UTC)