Talk:Ukrainian Premier League/Archive 1

Merge
I totally agree. It is the same article with a few minor differences. A merge is a great idea.


 * Support merger under the different name. Ukrainian Premier League is a literal aquisition of British term; Вища ліга Чемпіонату України з футболу is a local official name. Ukrained 18:56, 13 December 2005 (UTC)

We do not need to vote on such an obvious merger. Just someone needs to write the merged info into this article and blank the other one into a redirect. I am just too busy these days but please anyone, feel free. --Irpen 19:01, 13 December 2005 (UTC)

Collaboration
Where is there information availible on this topic in english, all I can find are past final league standing and a few obscure random statistics, anyone have any resources? this is beginning to look like a job for someone who speaks Ukrainian (or whatever the native langauge is) to me. Philc T+C 17:27, 16 April 2006 (UTC)
 * See, for example, rsssf. Conscious 04:23, 17 April 2006 (UTC)
 * Exactly my point!! not sure if you intended to support or oppose my argument though, ;) Philc  T+C 20:05, 17 April 2006 (UTC)

Use of Club Emblems in Templates
Resolving a previous conflict about football logos, according to Fair_use,


 * 9. Fair use images should only be used in the article namespace. Used outside article space, they are often enough not covered under the fair use doctrine. They should never be used on templates (including stub templates and navigation boxes) or on user pages. They should be linked, not inlined, from talk pages when they are the topic of discussion. This is because it is the policy of the Wikimedia Foundation to allow an unfree image only if no free alternative exists and only if it significantly improves the article it is included on. All other uses, even if legal under the fair use clauses of copyright law, should be avoided to keep the use of unfree images to a minimum. Exceptions can be made on a case-by-case basis if there is a broad consensus that doing so is necessary to the goal of creating a free encyclopedia (like the templates used as part of the Main Page).

Though this is the current official policy as of May 15, 2006, it is subject to debate and it appears that many people disagree with this issue Wikipedia_talk:Fair_use (Item 7). Feel free to add to the discussion and maybe this rule will be overturned.

On the contrary, if you think there is a problem with my templates, read here, Section 1.1, Line 10, titled Objects Not Covered by Protection.

--Palffy 22:53, 15 May 2006 (UTC)
 * Indeed, Ukrainian club logos are public domain, not fair use. Conscious 07:11, 16 May 2006 (UTC)


 * What happened to the templates of Karpaty Lviv, Shaktar Donetsk, and Zorya Lughansk? Xioyux 19:41, 19 August 2006 (UTC)


 * +1 Lunich 13:05, 22 August 2006 (UTC)

Naftovyk Okhtyrka
I don't understand why the name of the city of Okhtyrka is included in the name of the club. Naftovyk plays its home games in Sumy, therefore it should be called as Naftovyk Sumy.
 * Fyi, start signing your statements, User:Aleksandr Grigoryev. Second, they actually play their games in Okhtyrka which is where they've been based out of. The pulled out of a last second deal to play at Yuvielinuy in favor of their home stadium in Okhtyrka, and I haven't gotten around to updating that in wikipedia. Cheers, -- Palffy 23:11, 26 July 2007 (UTC)

Manager Ratings
I'm not sure I like these "manager ratings" on both this page and the Ukrainian Cup page. They're really arbitrary and they come off as an unencyclopedic---thoughts anyone? -- Palffy 17:58, 28 January 2008 (UTC)
 * I see what you mean, but I thought that it should be known who is who in the league, not just what teams there are. Aleksandr Grigoryev (talk) 01:30, 28 May 2008 (UTC)

Ideas for the competition reorganization
I believe that Ukrainian league competition needs some reorganization. A post league competition of some sort of play-off would add some interest to the League. It is being practiced more and more across the European continent. It also might help out with the Cup competition, interest to which is somewhat extinguished when the final game comes.

Here is my vision of the post league competition. At the conclusion of it the bottom teams, of course, will be due for relegation. The top eight teams will play a home-away quarter-final, while the teams from 9th through 14th would be split into groups either by a territorial principle or, in better case, the teams of 9th, 12th, and 14th in one group and the rest in another. Those middle-League placed regrouped teams will play also home-away tournament of a sort of mini-league competition with the bottom teams being eliminated for the rest of the season.

The winners of the top quarter-finals will advance further into the semis and to the final, while the losers will be given another chance to play-off the better teams of the mentioned mini-league tournaments for another berth of the Europa League. This way the teams will not be just stuck with their fate, but will be given a chance to continue on.

The Cup finals would be scheduled prior to the after league play-offs which would add some suspension for the European competition qualification. And the champions with the runner-up of such play-off would qualify to the Champions League. Aleksandr Grigoryev (talk) 17:39, 17 March 2010 (UTC)

A section on corruption added to this article?
I believe a section on corruption should be added based on this, this and this. Agree? —  Mariah-Yulia  • Talk to me!  18:05, 20 August 2010 (UTC)