Talk:Ultima VIII: Pagan

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What kind of U8 communities do we have out there? Should we include links?

The iotas over the intro...
Some confusion over what the Guardian says in the intro. "No one here knows of the Avatar" or "No one here knows of thee, Avatar"? It's definitely the former. For a number of reasons.

Generally, Guardian speaks in "modern" 2nd person pronouns in the games (as evidenced by this intro: "You have been a thorn in my side..." and also in Ultima VII intro, "You too shall kneel before me, Avatar...")

Secondly, it's "No one here knows of the AVATAR!" in the subtitles that appear in Pentagram, and Pentagram, to my knowledge, hasn't hacked them in (the expression doesn't appear in Pentagram source tree, so it has to come from somewhere else). The string definitely can also be found in the game file STATIC/EINTRO.SKF; Not sure if there's a way to enable these in-game. I presume this is what gets displayed if the Speech Pack isn't installed. Right now, I can't verify, but I think this is pretty strong evidence on what is actually said in the game.

I'd suggest someone verify this without speech pack, please... --wwwwolf (barks/growls) 15:46, 30 July 2007 (UTC)

I agree that it is "the Avatar" and not "thee... Avatar" although I don't agree that studying the speech patterns of an enemy that is not even consistant in nature between 7, 8, and 9 is conclusive evidence, I don't see any reason to call him "thee" in this portion, especially since a portion of the game invovles introducing yourself as "the avatar" and getting negetive responses because of it. Cabbruzz 23:51, 14 August 2007 (UTC)


 * Well, Something about the truename quest the and the variable %UVAR in dialog scripting. Also telling Killandra you are the son of Mordea makes her hate you and The destroyer taunts Avatar with speech pack content "Seems like you have been missed here in Pagan, At this very moment Mordea weeps/thinks of you." 198.102.103.18 (talk) 23:53, 6 November 2022 (UTC)

things I remember about the game and interviews Richard Garriott did about it

 * Richard Garriott said they added in all the jumping to be more like Prince of Persia.
 * The instant death thing from walking too close to the water, and falling in, was the most irritating feature of them all. You see a tiny puddle of water, and step on it, and whoosh, you just drowned to death.  That should make the list.
 * The Guardian brings him to Pagan to corrupt him, he forced to lie, steal, and murder to survive.
 * The speech pack didn't work right on my computer, and others I read had problems as well, having to uninstall everything, and reinstall Ultima 8 without it. Dream Focus (talk) 21:03, 24 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Can you do this in original unpatched U8 please see twitter:kiktranny and instagram emberautumnroseleona for video of using body to blow up people also with trapped chests 198.102.103.18 (talk) 23:48, 6 November 2022 (UTC)

released for free through origin
i got it myself but as that is unlikely to be a good enough source i ask people to find one.84.213.45.196 (talk) 15:09, 1 May 2015 (UTC)

Disputed Release Dates
According to Origin, Gold Edition was released on March 4, 1994 and was released sometime after the base game was. Any insight on this? VoVillia 04:00, 31 August 2015 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Vovillia (talk • contribs)

Credits fields in the infobox
See guidelines for credit fields at Template:Infobox video game.


 * For this game artists and writers don't need to be listed since there are no specific leads for those fields. Otherwise it exceeds the guideline limit of three.
 * Programming field has one name since it has a lead.
 * Composer field is intended for music composer, not sound effect artists. Nenad Vugrinec is the only music composer for this game.

Youtube link for credit scroll for Ultima 8: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2mmoMwXoRCw --Mika1h (talk) 12:35, 14 May 2017 (UTC)

Source

 * http://twvideo01.ubm-us.net/o1/vault/GD_Mag_Archives/GDM_Sept_1994.pdf
 * https://archive.org/details/ElectronicEntertainment07Jul1994/page/n3
 * https://archive.org/stream/DengekiPlayStationVol.092December251998J/Game%20Players%20PC%20Entertainment%20Vol.6%20No.6%20%28November-December%201993%29%28U%29#page/n43/mode/2up

gog and other versions was it alt x or ctrl v for version hotkey
what version is gog and ultima collection 198.102.103.100 (talk) 04:13, 29 July 2022 (UTC)

i heard ides of march 15th was release date
double check release date 198.102.103.100 (talk) 04:15, 29 July 2022 (UTC)

NPC Schedules mentioned on box
manual says change name in diary/journal section and the box mentions cool schedules and art 198.102.103.100 (talk) 04:24, 29 July 2022 (UTC)