Talk:Ultimate Victory

Question: what happened to "Not A Criminal"? According to this, it's not in the final tracklisting. Which is weird because that was a hard track. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.89.251.228 (talk) 00:41, 1 September 2007 (UTC)

why is 50 cent listed to produce q trqck on the album First of all 50 cent is just a rapper he dose not produce And If The Game Is Appering On The Album And The Game And 50 cent are currently involved in a big beef Why Would he produce a song for him if h e's working with game

I Also Rember Reading Somewere that he Was Working With 50 but Nolonger will work with him Because He Appered On the One Blood Remix And Now he is working with game And The Song That He Is Doing With Game Is Going To Be Produced By Dr.Dre

Can you please use full stops? its hard to read.

Did anyone hear about chamillionaire limiting swearing on this record? I think it was on allhiphop.com, but I'm not sure.

You can read about his swearing-free record on this site -> http://www.muchmusic.com/news/story.asp?id=19201

Man, why is everyone saying there is no swearing even though there was but it was all censored. So there was profanity but censored. Like Rock Star and Welcome to the South had censored tracks go check out the lyrics —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.19.180.252 (talk) 02:40, 25 September 2007 (UTC)


 * I think the idea is that Chamillionaire is the one who's not swearing. He doesn't use any profanity on the entire album (I'm 95% sure of this), only the featured artists do. --Josh1billion 16:53, 23 October 2007 (UTC)

save the mixtape messiah 4 article from deletion!
The article can still be saved from deletion just go take it up with the guy who deleted it and complain. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Xx1994xx (talk • contribs) 21:04, 31 October 2008 (UTC)

WTF
Yeah, he is a producer, he exec. produced Bred 2 Die Born 2 Live, and, yes, he will be working with 50. The "One Blood" Remix isnt a diss track so he wont feud/beef cham. 50 Cent has also confirmed that Cham. will be on his new album.--NJ Rock 00:15, 27 December 2006 (UTC)

recall on my statements - Same Person as the Above comment

cover
is that really the album cover

nope, just sum1 bein clever, thats the pic from his myspace

How come there is no swaring

No, that is actually the cover. When the album leaked with pictures of the album case and covers, this was the one that showed up. -kmanning2008 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.89.253.63 (talk) 14:52, 8 September 2007 (UTC)

Confirmed tracks
Where was 'Me & My Money' confirmed? I read in the Source magazine (with Three 6 Mafia on the cover) that the song he [Chamillionaire] did with Lil Wayne is titled Rock star. As far as some other songs that I do not see on the list are I think I love you and The evening news.

I wish that you people in the U.K. (I.P. 82.19.86.71) would fix your teeth instead of continuously changing track titles. Me & My Money is not confirmed anywhere. I already stated what the song with Lil' Wayne is called. Do I have to write it in Danish so that your imbecilic-self could comprehend?

I just thought that I would update my previous post and note that I came across the magazine again; the interview is in issue #209 of The Source -- April 2007. For those who continue to delete the tracklist, please check the magazine out. Also, the song with Slick Rick is called "They Blame Me." The Hip Hop police confiscate Chamillionaires car and find things in it such as the clipse and the chronic (puns intended).

Impala63 19:14, 5 May 2007 (UTC)

I added the tracks back and referenced it back to The Sources website(I could not find a direct link to the article but it is on the home page.) 75.9.209.238 14:06, 12 May 2007 (UTC)

I went back to the previous edits and restored mine. The tracks are referenced(unlike the "Me and My Money" or really any of the other stuff on the page). I have the only Reference on the page(Aside from the link towards the beginning of the page), so I will continue to restore my version until people decide to stop erasing the tracklist. Others have put these tracks up and been erased. This time there is a source. 75.9.209.238 02:50, 13 May 2007 (UTC)


 * Thank you for your help. I also thank you for your time to restore the article if and when people decide to erase actual tracks and include fake ones. I tried to reference The Source.com, but the site was undergoing a revamp at the time. However, I seen that they have the article up there. It is a shame that we cannot provide a straight-forward link since the site is built with Flash.


 * I posted those tracks almost a month ago, but very few people listened to me. I seen some people post them, but it would not last a day. That's the casual narcistic imbecils for you; you have to get credit for something--even if it is posting false information on a website of value. Anyways, I am getting off the subject here. Thanks again.

Impala63 03:27, 13 May 2007 (UTC)


 * No problem. I remembered someone had posted them before, but I did not remember who. If it was you, full credit to you because I found out about the source thing from wikipedia. So you might have been the one to tip me off to begin with. But yes, I am going to watch this page and restore it when need be. (I am the one who was posting earlier just not logged in)Gsmumbo 05:09, 13 May 2007 (UTC)

So where did this new tracklisting come from? It looks credible, but sources would be nice. Or some kind of proof that its real. Gsmumbo 14:17, 10 June 2007 (UTC)

I honestly don't care, but seeing as I'm tryin to make this Wikipedia article better, is it possible someonecan confirm "Bill Collector" within the next 24 hours? Thank you. - NJ Rock

"Bill Collector" was verified here: http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/1562444/20070613/chamillionaire.jhtml - Rapmastaman

k but can u sconfirm the rest of the tracklist? giv ya 2 days - NJ Rock 03:57, 23 June 2007 (UTC)

lol I'm not the one who put that tracklisting up so...yeah - Rapmastaman

o i kno, just seein as u had that, thot u might hav anotha thing, u hav a confirmation for "ol english" or "ultimate victory" cuz iv seen those on this page b4, just wonderin, if u can confirm, plz help cuz im deletin in a day n a half - NJ Rock

Krayzie Bone isn't featured on 'Bill Collector', because the source that Rapmastaman gave, says Krayzie Bone has an old song called like that. it doesn't say he's featured on the Cham version Darius20 09:51, 9 August 2007 (UTC)


 * "It's kind of the same formula," he said of his new track with Krazyie. "Play-N-Skillz produced it, the guys that produced 'Ridin'.' It's called 'The Bill Collector.' People might ask you for a favor. People that owe you money, it's time to pay up. What reminded me of that is a record Krayzie had with Bone Thugs back in the day called ['Mr.] Bill Collector.' I ain't gonna lie — that kinda inspired me."...... Umm look at the first sentence, WITH KRAYZIE it says. Yeesh - NJ Rock

Which song is produced by Disco D? He's listed in the list of producers. I thought it might be Rockstar, cuz I know he gave Cham a beat for that song, but Cham said that he decided not to use it because legal problems after Disco's death. Did Kane Beats really produce it or is Disco on the production credits? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.225.145.212 (talk) 04:09, 21 September 2007 (UTC)

Its Hard
anyone have a citation? - NJ Rock

wrong tracklist
WHAT?! they arent even a credible source, they left out "I Think I Love You"... normally i would assume he just cut it, but he talked about it at his album hearing... also, since the album is to be like a movie, Evening News should play RIGHT after Hip Hop Police - Concerned Wikiman

nevermind, relokd at the source, then fixed the lies - NJ Rock

Leaked??!?!
What is the site? Some ppl said it is leaked, others said it is not... Where is your proof? What site is it leaked on? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.132.150.86 (talk) 21:34, 5 September 2007 (UTC)

yep it leaked...listening to it right now.--Jayem85 21:37, 5 September 2007 (UTC)

I love how the album was leaked(and downloading it would be illegal), and all of a sudden all the leaked tracks(all but the Best Buy tracks) have track lengths. Gsmumbo 22:02, 5 September 2007 (UTC)

But on what site??!

It was leaked yesterday (September 5th 2007) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.132.150.86 (talk) 23:12, 5 September 2007 (UTC)

Idiots, it didn't leak to any specific website, but it leaked out on all the P2P networks. Also, if you download this album, you better be copping it when it comes out on the 18th.

It was originally leaked on a torrent site. Oh, and I'm totally with you, BUY A COPY! Chamillionaire worked really hard on this album and it is very apparent in the product. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.89.253.63 (talk) 14:54, 8 September 2007 (UTC) Yeah let's all buy a copy and make him even richer

I mean why wouldn't u? Cham put work in this joint...if someone works for it I'll gladly give money...but if its some crap they did in a day then yea I agree download that shit on rapidshare —Preceding unsigned comment added by 151.200.242.111 (talk) 23:15, 22 September 2007 (UTC)

Not a Criminal
Was this cut track originally released a single? I heard it on Sirius Satellite Radio a couple of times this summer, and I think it was supposed to be the first single off of the album (until it was cut, of course). --Josh1billion 05:13, 6 October 2007 (UTC)

Real Thing
YOU COMPLETELY MISSED WHAT THIS ALBUM HAS. HE SPEAKS REAL ISSUES AND DOES THE REAL HIP-HOP. YOU JUST LIKE HIM BECAUSE OF RIDIN'

WTF
This is the BEST album Out there This is a MASTERPICE just listen to it and buy it —Preceding unsigned comment added by 4.230.66.166 (talk) 04:57, 4 December 2007 (UTC)

First Clean Album?
"first mainstream hardcore rap album to not receive the 'Parental Advisory' label"

Um...what about Welcome Back, by Mase? --71.91.119.143 (talk) 04:37, 22 December 2007 (UTC)

You Must Be Crazy
Apparently according to there is a lawsuit pending to determine who the original composer of "You Must Be Crazy" is. Responding to an OTRS complaint (ticket 2008052910022194), I've added both parties to the list; this should stay until the lawsuit is settled or adjudicated.  howcheng  {chat} 16:51, 2 June 2008 (UTC)

Album Sales
Can someone find an updated number of album sales for this album? 215,000 as of May 1, 2008 is way out of date, and that doesn't even have a source.