Talk:Ultimo (manga)

Image
At this page it has an oversized logo for the series. It would look great on the article, and make it look more professional. —  J U M P G U R U   ■TALK■ 01:55, 8 October 2008 (UTC)


 * This image could be used in press event section. ^_^ —  J U M P G U R U   ■ ask ㋐㋜㋗ ■ 01:23, 12 November 2008 (UTC)


 * No, it can't. No non-free images of living people are allowed for use like that as they are always considered to be replaceable. -- AnmaFinotera  (talk · contribs) 01:56, 12 November 2008 (UTC)

Ultimo?
I have come down to that Ultimo is the official English title. They used that in the English Shonen Jump issue and Stan Lee (an English guy who wrote the series.) uses that too. I'm going to ask a admin to perform the move. —  J U M P G U R U   ■ ask ㋐㋜㋗ ■ 01:21, 11 November 2008 (UTC)


 * The Shonen Jump link doesn't work anymore. Is there some where we can easily see the title? -- AnmaFinotera  (talk · contribs) 01:57, 11 November 2008 (UTC)


 * The Shonen Jump link (through the logo) suggests the title is Karakuridôji Ultimo, but everywhere exept the logo it is spelled as Ultimo. —  J U M P G U R U   ■ ask ㋐㋜㋗ ■ 03:46, 11 November 2008 (UTC)


 * The problem is, we don't know if its the actual name they are using, or if they are just shortening it (like the do SJ). -- AnmaFinotera  (talk · contribs) 03:50, 11 November 2008 (UTC)


 * True... Let's just leave the page as it is. —  J U M P G U R U   ■ ask ㋐㋜㋗ ■ 04:00, 11 November 2008 (UTC) P.S. So sorry about the template. : P


 * Yeah, probably best for now. Maybe they will do some kind of better press release or something clarifying the name later. And no worries :) -- AnmaFinotera  (talk · contribs) 04:02, 11 November 2008 (UTC)


 * Thanks, you can't imagine how embarrassed I was. :-( —  J U M P G U R U   ■ ask ㋐㋜㋗ ■ 04:23, 11 November 2008 (UTC)


 * Ah, no need to be. You're doing better than you were when you first started editing :) -- AnmaFinotera  (talk · contribs) 04:29, 11 November 2008 (UTC)


 * Is there a Japanese page? I just want to make sure it's "ウルテイモ" and not "ウルティモ". -- わwa らra  うu  Smile! 07:28, 22 November 2008 (UTC)

The Japanese title is "機巧童子ウルティモ" not "機巧童子ウルテイモ". Look on the Japanese page. わwa らra  うu  Smile! 07:31, 22 November 2008 (UTC)

New infobox
I was just deabating whether that would be better than the infobox we have now. —  J U M P G U R U   ■ ask ㋐㋜㋗ ■ 00:10, 12 November 2008 (UTC)


 * Technically this is a manga series, so it should use the manga box. -- AnmaFinotera  (talk · contribs) 00:37, 12 November 2008 (UTC)


 * Is it just me or is "The series was inked in by Daigo and painted by Bob" really hilarious. >D —  J U M P G U R U   ■ ask ㋐㋜㋗ ■ 17:10, 13 November 2008 (UTC)

C-class
In my point of view this should be just about a C-class. I just brought up this topic on the talk page to make sure with you. : ) —  J U M P G U R U   ■ ask ㋐㋜㋗ ■ 01:24, 13 November 2008 (UTC)


 * Would be better to ask for an assessment from the project :) -- AnmaFinotera  (talk · contribs) 01:59, 13 November 2008 (UTC)


 * How do you do that... -_- Just go to the talk page and ask? —  J U M P G U R U   ■ ask ㋐㋜㋗ ■ 02:08, 13 November 2008 (UTC)


 * Post a request at WikiProject Anime and manga/Assessment (new requests go to the bottom of the list) :) -- AnmaFinotera  (talk · contribs) 02:17, 13 November 2008 (UTC)


 * Thanks. I posted it. Now I will be getting some third-party sources in. —  J U M P G U R U   ■ ask ㋐㋜㋗ ■ 02:59, 13 November 2008 (UTC)

Compliance with B-Class
On the tab for compliance with B-class it says that the sourcing and referencing is failed. I don't get it. I basically murdered the page with reliable sources, placing them every square inch of the page. —  J U M P G U R U   ■ ask ㋐㋜㋗ ■ 17:20, 13 November 2008 (UTC)


 * There is a hidden note there about that. :) -- AnmaFinotera  (talk · contribs) 17:37, 13 November 2008 (UTC)


 * I see. Anyway I just deleted the sources that don't work anymore. About accuracy? Is there anything I can do about that? —  J U M P G U R U   ■ ask ㋐㋜㋗ ■ 17:52, 13 November 2008 (UTC)


 * I dunno about that, but supporting materials should be easy, you just need an image for the infobox. ;) — Dino guy  1000  18:37, 13 November 2008 (UTC)


 * Thank you Dinoguy1000. I found a good image here, is it okay to use images from blogs? —  J U M P G U R U   ■ ask ㋐㋜㋗ ■ 01:04, 14 November 2008 (UTC)


 * I'm inclined to say no. Without knowing where they got that image, its hard to say if its legit or a fan creation. When the series ran in Shonen Jump, was it on the cover? If so, I'd say that be the image to use. Is it supposed to be a full series eventually (since the first chapter is called the prologue)? If so, maybe just wait till the first volume is printed. -- AnmaFinotera  (talk · contribs) 05:52, 14 November 2008 (UTC)


 * Yes it does have it on the cover. We can just edit it to make it just the logo. —  J U M P G U R U   ■ ask ㋐㋜㋗ ■ 16:59, 14 November 2008 (UTC)


 * Project consensus is to use manga/VHS/DVD cover scans or promo posters/material/what-have-you instead of logos, for several reasons. The full cover of the SJ issue it appeared on should suffice until the first volume comes out (whenever that might be). — Dino guy  1000  20:49, 14 November 2008 (UTC)


 * That wouldn't make any sense. The issue it was on has a massive picture of Ichigo from Bleach on it. Ultimo is just a thing in the corner. —  J U M P G U R U   ■ ask ㋐㋜㋗ ■ 23:38, 14 November 2008 (UTC)


 * How bout this image. I think it looks pretty good. : ) What do you think Collect? —  J U M P G U R U   ■ ask ㋐㋜㋗ ■ 23:48, 14 November 2008 (UTC)


 * It still has no source and, as noted above, doesn't meet the usual list of desirable images. ANN has no problems using fan images (most anime pages have them), so we can't presume its official because its there. I'm inclined to agree with Dinoguy to just wait for the first volume of the main series. -- AnmaFinotera  (talk · contribs) 01:47, 15 November 2008 (UTC)


 * I agree. But let me just tell you, that image is from the old Jump SQ.II website, I remember. However the page is now redesigned for the next issue and does not have it anymore. It's sadly not waybacked either. -_- —  J U M P G U R U   ■ ask ㋐㋜㋗ ■ 01:54, 15 November 2008 (UTC)


 * The accuracy seems good, but the coverage still lacks a bit: the article still requires a reception section. The plot also seems a but short at the moment. Some fields in the infobox are also lacking (i.e. number of issues) G.A.S talk 05:49, 14 November 2008 (UTC)


 * About the reception... Suprisingly I can't find any reviews for the series. The closest thing to a review is what the users at ANN said about it. But we CAN NOT use that. —  J U M P G U R U   ■ ask ㋐㋜㋗ ■ 16:59, 14 November 2008 (UTC)

How about the issue of Jump SQ.II it was in. See. If it doesn't load go back and then go forward, sometimes S-Manga.Net is weird like that. —  J U M P G U R U   ■ ask ㋐㋜㋗ ■ 17:56, 15 November 2008 (UTC)

ComiPress
Is ComiPress a reliable source? I wanted to make sure before I use one. —  J U M P G U R U   ■ ask ㋐㋜㋗ ■ 00:49, 20 November 2008 (UTC)


 * I think it is considered WP:RS (hope so, anyway, as its used in DB and Naruto's articles as well :P) -- AnmaFinotera  (talk · contribs) 01:42, 20 November 2008 (UTC)


 * Thanks. By the time i'm done i'll almost have every reliable source on the internet. : P —  J U M P G U R U   ■ ask ㋐㋜㋗ ■ 03:00, 20 November 2008 (UTC)

Image signed
I found an image of the signed copy of Jump SQ.II (Second). Maybe we can use this one for an image. :D —  J U M P G U R U   ■ ask ㋐㋜㋗ ■ 02:06, 21 November 2008 (UTC)


 * Me thinks (hope) you already know that would be a big big big big big no. :P Now, an unsigned version....-- AnmaFinotera  (talk · contribs) 02:15, 21 November 2008 (UTC)


 * How bout this one? Another amazon picture. ^_^ —  J U M P G U R U   ■ ask ㋐㋜㋗ ■ 16:59, 21 November 2008 (UTC)


 * I think that one would work. :) -- AnmaFinotera  (talk · contribs) 17:13, 21 November 2008 (UTC)


 * It's a bit blurry though. : ( I'm going to look some more and see if I can find a better one. I like how on the signed one Stan Lee covered up Lag Seeing's face. XD —  J U M P G U R U   ■ ask ㋐㋜㋗ ■ 17:26, 21 November 2008 (UTC)


 * Every single page ended up with that one image. : P Let's upload the image. —  J U M P G U R U   ■ ask ㋐㋜㋗ ■ 17:31, 21 November 2008 (UTC)


 * Yō? —  J U M P G U R U   ■ ask ㋐㋜㋗ ■ 17:46, 21 November 2008 (UTC)


 * Hello? —  J U M P G U R U   ■ ask ㋐㋜㋗ ■ 23:15, 21 November 2008 (UTC)


 * Um...hi? -- AnmaFinotera  (talk · contribs) 01:38, 22 November 2008 (UTC)


 * Every single page ended up with that one image. : P Let's upload the image! Comments? —  J U M P G U R U   ■ ask ㋐㋜㋗ ■ 06:15, 22 November 2008 (UTC)


 * Already said it was fine with me. Not sure if anyone else is gonna comment :P -- AnmaFinotera  (talk · contribs) 06:33, 22 November 2008 (UTC)


 * Haha Jump Guru. Yō. わwa  らra  うu  Smile! 20:55, 22 November 2008 (UTC)


 * LOL. That's what the Japanese Soulja Boy says: You! >> Yō!. Yeah, I just uploaded the image. : ) —  J U M P G U R U   ■ ask ㋐㋜㋗ ■ 21:41, 22 November 2008 (UTC)


 * Lol, but I accidentally made a redirect to this page called Karakuridojo Ultimo. I spelled it wrong, and created the page thinking it was spelled "Dôjo" not "Dôji"... and now it needs to be deleted. わwa  らra  うu  Smile! 21:56, 22 November 2008 (UTC)


 * Hm...I don't know how to delete redirects. AnmaFinotera, do you know how to delete redirects? —  J U M P G U R U   ■ ask ㋐㋜㋗ ■ 23:25, 22 November 2008 (UTC)


 * You just delete the page... It's still a page, it just has a redirect on it. わwa  らra  うu  Smile! 23:31, 22 November 2008 (UTC)


 * I nominated it for deletion. You can view it here. わwa  らra  うu  Smile! 00:10, 23 November 2008 (UTC)


 * The appropriate thing would have been to tag it with a CSD tag for author requests deletion, not send it to AfD. I've gone through and corrected this and requested the AfD be deleted. -- AnmaFinotera  (talk · contribs) 00:34, 23 November 2008 (UTC)


 * Oh... sorry! I should let more experienced users do stuff for me instead of doing it myself... I always seem to make mistakes! わwa  らra  うu  Smile! 01:01, 23 November 2008 (UTC)


 * Its okay...just takes time to learn a lot of the nuancy stuff :) I just realized you got like a really barebones welcome back in June, so hope you don't mind but I left you another one that has more links, and I think is more useful :) -- AnmaFinotera  (talk · contribs) 02:52, 23 November 2008 (UTC)

First pic
I was thinking about uploading this image which is not a fan work and was originally from the Jump SQ.II (Second) page. I am going to put it in the production section. Comments? —  J U M P G U R U   ■ ask ㋐㋜㋗ ■ 03:38, 23 November 2008 (UTC)


 * No source and really doesn't add anything of value to the production section. It isn't production type info without actual details and citations. Non-free images should either be identifiers in the infobox or supported by critical discussion. This would not be, and as it would only be illustrative, it isn't needed. -- AnmaFinotera  (talk · contribs) 03:41, 23 November 2008 (UTC)


 * Is the Shonen Jump issue image okay on this article? : ( —  J U M P G U R U   ■ ask ㋐㋜㋗ ■ 16:11, 23 November 2008 (UTC)


 * Right now, it only needs one image, the one in the infobox. -- AnmaFinotera  (talk · contribs) 19:28, 23 November 2008 (UTC)


 * Oh...oops. —  J U M P G U R U   ■ ask ㋐㋜㋗ ■ 22:55, 23 November 2008 (UTC)

The works.
What else needs to be done to this page? I would like to know so we can get this to at least a B-class sooner or later. : )  J U M P G U R U   ■ ask ㋐㋜㋗ ■ 22:40, 1 December 2008 (UTC)


 * Hello? Anyone?  J U M P G U R U   ■ ask ㋐㋜㋗ ■ 17:14, 2 December 2008 (UTC)

Review for B-class
Should I ask for a review for B-class? What do you think AnmaFinotera?  J U M P G U R U  ■ ask ㋐㋜㋗ ■ 20:33, 3 December 2008 (UTC)

Japanese volume 1
Because I don't feel like updating the article right now, just dropping a line to say volume 1 was released by Shueisha on July 3, 2009. We can also replace the infobox image now (if a large enough cover image can be found). 「 ダイノ ガイ 千？！ 」? · Talk⇒Dinoguy1000 21:27, 27 October 2009 (UTC)

Clean-up
I tried editing some of the clunky writing, but I still left a mess. I am preparing the page for its eventual split since the series is clearly becoming much larger (main, manga, perhaps characters, etc). I mostly wonder if what I have done so far is okay and that I am moving the page into the right direction. If not, I will focus on trimming the unimportant things from here. Spindori (talk) 17:02, 24 June 2010 (UTC)

Review(s)

 * CBB: vol. 1 vol. 2 vol. 3
 * ANN: Right turn only vol. 2 vol. 3
 * Mania.com: vol. 2 vol. 3

--KrebMarkt (talk) 16:32, 9 January 2011 (UTC)

Macron or circumflex
The article treats all circumflexes (ô), where necessary, as macrons (ō). If there is no particular reason for this, I will act myself to replace them. Spindori (talk) 16:19, 26 July 2010 (UTC)
 * That is how they are treated. It's just one symbol for another. WhisperToMe (talk) 18:55, 12 May 2011 (UTC)

Interview
There was an interview at http://shonenjump.viz.com/features/index.php?id=110 but the link 404ed. I'm waiting to see if web.archive.org picks it up WhisperToMe (talk) 18:54, 12 May 2011 (UTC)

Needs updating
I seems to me like this page badly needs to be updated. The series has been out for a while now and has plenty of content available. Even the list of Chapters is grossly incomplete. This page really needs a massive overhaul. The Great Morgil (talk) 00:39, 16 June 2011 (UTC)

Not to mention that Ekoda is dead(by Vice fatally stabbing him), Hiroshi and Machi are injured and the rest of the good doji but Sophia have new masters, Regula and Sayama Makoto, and the rest of Yamato's classmates are now doji masters as well, Pardonner and Kiyose Matsumoto, Slow and Akitsu Otake, and Goge and Hibari Oume(her relation to Kaizo Oume, the master of evil doji Avaro is unclear). --76.8.167.12 (talk) 16:06, 20 June 2011 (UTC)

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Requested move 29 May 2019

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The result of the move request was: Moved. (closed by non-admin page mover)  SITH   (talk)   14:52, 7 June 2019 (UTC)

Karakuri Dôji Ultimo → Ultimo (manga) – English-language reliable sources refer to the manga only as "Ultimo", not "Karakuri Dôji" or with Ultimo as some subtitle. See:


 * Anime News Network
 * Fandom Post
 * Mania
 * ComicBookBin

Not to mention Viz itself refers to it as Ultimo:
 * Retail page
 * Press release
 * Blog post

The current title also doesn't count as a WP:NATURALDIS since it isn't commonly used in reliable sources. Opencooper (talk) 05:22, 29 May 2019 (UTC)
 * Support seems reasonable. Masum Reza 📞 17:47, 2 June 2019 (UTC)


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