Talk:Umayyad coinage in Palestine

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I agree that page name change was warranted, as it was contentious. I wonder whether we might instead switch to a more descriptive title such as Ummayad coinage with Jewish symbolism. You were concerned that Land of Israel was not mentioned in the references, but nor was Palestine. Might avoiding a 'land' claim in the title (except for the undisputed 'Umayyad') be a more neutral way of proceeding? Klbrain (talk) 20:40, 9 March 2024 (UTC)


 * I was writing a general comment but you beat me to it. In short: I suspect this warrants an WP:AFD nomination.
 * The topic is very confused: some of the sources here are little more than links to images of coins, others are about a specific archeological find that briefly made the news. The lead makes it sound like some kind of officially-designated collection of coins known by a specific name (especially under the strange former title), but that's not what this is.
 * Accordingly, I don't think this merits its own Wikipedia article and it seems to involve WP:OR. Any properly-supported information can easily be summarized in a few sentences or less at Umayyad Caliphate or another relevant existing article. Maybe a future article about Umayyad coinage in general would make for a good topic, but it would be a radically different article. R Prazeres (talk) 20:58, 9 March 2024 (UTC)
 * Thank you for your suggestion. I would like to clarify that I changed "Land of Israel" to "Palestine" because the region in question was known as Jund Filastin at the time, an Arabic term translating to "the military district of Palestine", whereas "Land of Israel" appears to constitute original research. Besides, the following cited sources make a reference to Palestine. Regarding the page's fate, I concur with @R Prazeres's recommendation to nominate it for deletion. The article is confusing and seems to have a lot of WP:OR as correctly pointed out by R Prazeres. Skitash (talk) 21:35, 9 March 2024 (UTC)
 * AfD might be a few more eyes, but if there is an alternative it would be good to avoid it. Perhaps merge the reliably-sourced comments to Umayyad Caliphate, where there is already a mention of the caliphate minting their own coins? Klbrain (talk) 22:01, 9 March 2024 (UTC)
 * With some revision, yes, I think that's the best place for this kind of information in the short-term. R Prazeres (talk) 22:08, 9 March 2024 (UTC)
 * I think that would be a good idea. Skitash (talk) 23:14, 9 March 2024 (UTC)
 * I've gone ahead and expanded the Umayyad Caliphate's section on currency/coinage and added information on the menorah coins specifically (.
 * Leaving aside some content problems already noted (and some new ones I've noticed since) in this new article, I've looked at nearly all the cited sources here and I don't believe they add anything new. Most of them are not very reliable (i.e. not scholarly) or barely relevant (i.e. coins are mentioned in passing during a discussion of something else). I don't believe there is anything here worth keeping. R Prazeres (talk) 02:27, 10 March 2024 (UTC)
 * Thank you. I will now redirect this article to the relevant section in Umayyad Caliphate. Given that the bulk of this article's content has been deleted due to copyright issues, it serves no purpose in its current form. Skitash (talk) 12:11, 10 March 2024 (UTC)