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Fares in the 1950s
In the subsection "Construction Halts", the article mentions "a 1952 fare increase from 30 cents to 35 cents", and cites a magazine article published in 1973 which discussed the 35-cent fare. The early '50s was the time that the fare increased from a dime to a 15-cent token, a 50% increase. Moreover the citation states that the $200-million operationg subsidy occurred in 1971. I have corrected the date from 1952 to 1972, thinking it was a misprint.   Solo Owl   14:46, 6 October 2018 (UTC)
 * Yeah, it was a typo. The entire "Construction halts" section talked about the early 1970s, so that should've been an indicator that 1952 was a typo. Thanks for catching the mistake. epicgenius (talk) 15:20, 6 October 2018 (UTC)

Splitting of construction sections
I honestly think we should split this into at least two separate articles: one for the historical proposals (with a summary of current construction), and one for the current line's construction. This article has about 98 kB of prose, which per WP:SIZERULE is at the threshold where an article should "almost certainly should be divided or trimmed." When Phase 2 begins, and if later phases are built, this page will certainly exceed 100 kB of prose. The construction sections (1995–2017: Planning for current project, 2007–2017: First phase, and 2016–present: Second phase) already have about 50 kB of prose between them.

Also pinging Kew Gardens 613, who may also be interested in this. – Epicgenius (talk) 17:40, 6 October 2023 (UTC)


 * We have discussed this before-we definitely should at minimum split out the current line's construction. Kew Gardens 613 (talk) 21:34, 6 October 2023 (UTC)
 * I forgot that we discussed this, but I think it sounds reasonable. If no one objects to the split, I'll carry it out at the end of the month. – Epicgenius (talk) 00:22, 7 October 2023 (UTC)
 * I will leave this open for another week to see if anyone has a different opinion of this proposed split. – Epicgenius (talk) 17:31, 3 November 2023 (UTC)
 * I have created Draft:Unbuilt plans for the Second Avenue Subway and Draft:Construction of the Second Avenue Subway. I'm planning to keep the "Unbuilt plans" page here and split out the "Construction" page. These drafts still need a little polishing, though. – Epicgenius (talk) 21:13, 17 November 2023 (UTC)