Talk:Underwater Demolition Team

Added content by User:RekonDog
I have added content while conducting research about the U.S. Marine Amphib Recon Bn, came across some interesting facts that I added to the UDT. Even though the content I added are only under the UDT Early History section. The other history made it confusing to where I should place it since I added more in-depth info which has similar content spread throughout the article. My contribitution may feel like it consolidated all that info already listed. Please disperse my contributing facts accordingly, thanks! RekonDog 16:35, 21 August 2008 (UTC)

NPOV, style, overall...
I don't know where to start, but that article needs a major rewrite, some expample to illustrate my point:

"Beginning a tradition that continues today, these brave men contributed immensely to the war effort."

"Training commenced with one grueling week designed to eliminate the men from the boys. Some said that the men had sense enough to quit, and left the boys."

This is perfectly fine for a veteran home page (from one which this whole text was probably copied verbatim), but for Wikipedia it seems a bit strange... —Preceding unsigned comment added by 212.249.45.148 (talk) 12:15, 9 September 2008 (UTC)


 * I agree... I made some changes a few weeks ago, but didn't want to do to much for I was afraid of upsetting fan-boys. --< Nicht Nein! (talk) 23:56, 9 September 2008 (UTC)

Fort Pierce Photos
I have some Official U.S. Navy Photos of the Fort Pierce training in WWII. I'll put one or two of them in the article, but I'm really looking for people who might be interested in seeing them. Obviously this article has some knowledgeable editors, and maybe they have an interest. Let me know by email or on my talk page. Lou Sander (talk) 14:26, 7 December 2009 (UTC)

Vietnam article
I edited Lien Doc Nguoi Nhia to Liên Đoàn Người nhái. I'm Vietcong :D ! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 118.68.140.40 (talk) 14:58, 14 August 2011 (UTC)

PMML Holdings
The Pritzker Military Museum & Library, which is a Wikipedia GLAM participant, has holdings that can be used to improve this article. It is also running an exhibit entitled SEAL The Unspoken Sacrifice through December 2014. TeriEmbrey (talk) 16:10, 6 May 2014 (UTC)

NCDUs at Normandy
Unfortunately, this is a very poorly written section, one that suffers from massive POV problems. The NCDUs are discussed as if they were stand-alone units and were the only elements involved in breaching the beach obstacles.

The assertion that "The NCDU teams (designated Demolitions Gap-Assault teams)" is flatly incorrect. In fact, the NCDU were not themseleves the Gap Assault Teams (or Assault Gapping Teams). They were only part of such a team. The GATs were made up of two elements. The first element was a 26 man Army combat engineer unit. The Navy part of a GAT was based on a 6 man NCDU. As structured, the NCDUs were not able to perform their missions, so they were augmented first by 2 sailors and then 5 additional Army engineers. In other words, of the men tasked to clear a 50 yard breach in the obstacles, only 8 were Navy personnel, and only 6 of these were assigned to an NCDU. The remaining 31 men on the team were Army engineers. The GAT as a whole was commanded by an Army officer who directed their operations on the beach, and the GATs in turn were part of the Army Special Engineer Task Force. NCDU members made up just 15% of the GAT, yet this article twist history to the point that it appears the NCDUs did it all themselves.

By the way, the gaps were supposed to 50 yards wide (yards, not feet) and 300-400 yards deep, depending on how far the obstacles extended seaward. 73.235.236.46 (talk) 04:46, 23 March 2016 (UTC)

John Clark reference in Fiction section ?
Not sure if is a good enough link for inclusion in the "Fiction" section, but John Kelly ( later John Clark ) of the Jack Ryan universe, was a member of the UDT, seeing action in Vietnam. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Without_Remorse GeoffAvogadro (talk) 19:42, 20 October 2018 (UTC)
 * Did any of the novels discuss the UDT in detail? Or lend any insight to the UDT that would be informative for the reader? If so, then perhaps mention of that particular novel, the author, a link to either the author or novel if available and a supporting reference. Inclusion of the character would we be optional. Otherwise, if it's just background info for the character, it probably doesn't merit inclusion in the article. That's just me, others may differ. -  wolf  22:10, 20 October 2018 (UTC)

Scouts and Raiders
- Just curious, why remove the paragraph about them? - w o lf  21:38, 29 May 2022 (UTC)
 * Has no direct link to the creation of the NCDUs. It is pre-history that is triva to the NCDU topic in my opinion. It's Wikipedia, if you disagree you certainly can revert.Mcb133aco (talk) 23:11, 29 May 2022 (UTC)
 * No, just thought I'd ask. It seemed like a worthwhile addition, and a small one at that in an article that it not in any way oversized. But it's not something I'm going to get into a whole revert-thing about. Have a nice day - w o lf  01:58, 30 May 2022 (UTC)

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