Talk:Unhalfbricking/GA1

GA Review
The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.''

Currently reviewing Cavie78 (talk) 12:42, 6 August 2008 (UTC)


 * Lead


 * The lead is there to summarise the article - there's a fair bit of information in there that doesn't appear elsewhere particularly the chart and single release info. Consider adding a 'Release' section for details about the formats it was released in, details of singles, how it did in the charts (in prose form), any information about bonus tracks or alternative versions, etc. (would be a good place to explain in prose the information relating to the bonus tracks that's hidden away in the reference section)


 * "is seen as a transitional album in the band's history, marking a musical direction away from American influences towards more traditional English folk songs." should be referenced in the lead not just the 'reception' section.
 * ✅ - (dont mind me just felt like helping out) Jakisbak (talk) 01:32, 8 August 2008 (UTC)


 * Background


 * "and of this Ashley Hutchings said" - who is Ashley Hutchings?
 * ✅ - clarified who he is -- Rodhull andemu  13:32, 6 August 2008 (UTC)


 * "The French lyrics for the latter were created during the interval of a performance at the Middle Earth Club" - why were French lyrics created?
 * ✅ - added quote and reference to Simon Nicol's description of this -- Rodhull andemu  13:32, 6 August 2008 (UTC)


 * "set the tone for the future of British folk rock" - sounds POV, is there a ref?
 * - I'm sure this can be found somewhere but for now I've changed it to something more specific -- Rodhull andemu  13:51, 6 August 2008 (UTC)


 * "after a period of intense reflection about their future they decided to pursue the folk rock idea further" - again could do with a ref
 * - likewise -- Rodhull andemu  13:51, 6 August 2008 (UTC)
 * ✅ quotes now cited from Hutchings & Nicol should show this. -- Rodhull andemu  01:23, 7 August 2008 (UTC)


 * Title and cover


 * "The title Unhalfbricking arose from a word-game played by the band while travelling to and from gigs" - think more could be said here about why the specific name was chosen.
 * ✅ - sourced as to origin but nothing forthcoming about why it was chosen. Cannabis, perhaps. -- Rodhull andemu  14:05, 6 August 2008 (UTC)
 * LOL as the kids would say. Info you've added seems fair enough (I've heard lots of people speculate about the name before but never knew the real reason) Cavie78 (talk) 14:42, 6 August 2008 (UTC)
 * I'll carry on working on it, and if I come across any further information, I'll expand this section. -- Rodhull andemu  16:49, 6 August 2008 (UTC)


 * Reception


 * This section feels a little stubby, especially for such an important album. Do you have any contemporary reviews? Your should aim to "synthesize the general critical reception of the album, being as detailed as possible" according to album project guidlines.
 * contemporary reviews tend not to be online, although have retitled to "Reception and influence" to reflect importance of the album. The fact that it's even now regarded as pivotal in its influence, although not perhaps as much as Liege & Lief, is testimony to its importance. Further sources being sought. -- Rodhull andemu  01:23, 7 August 2008 (UTC)


 * General


 * There seems to be no information about the actual recording of the album.
 * 1969! They weren't The Beatles, so their recordings aren't so well-documented; however, if it can be found, I'll find it. -- Rodhull andemu  01:23, 7 August 2008 (UTC)


 * Other than stating that his girlfriend was killed you don't mention Richard Thompson (who wrote two songs on the album) in the entire article.
 * added detail about his contributions and I'll see what the man himself said about it. -- Rodhull andemu  20:53, 6 August 2008 (UTC)


 * The whole article feels a little stubby, consider adding info about the album's influence, any tour to support the album (particularly given the death of the band's drummer before its release)


 * Also think it would be good to have some song samples accompanying a discussion of the music in a bit more depth as well as some relevant illustrations (if available)
 * I think "Si Tu Dois" & "Who Knows Where" would probably be representative; I'll sort this out. -- Rodhull andemu  20:53, 6 August 2008 (UTC)
 * ✅ "Si Tu Dois" sample is probably better here than in its own article since here we actually discuss the adoption of the track and its French lyrics and how they came about; used "A Sailor's Life" sample rather than "Who Knows Where", because the latter really belongs in its own article because of its separate importance, and I don't want to stretch Fair Use too far. "ASL" is singled out by reviewers as a seminal track, so should be here for that reason. Rodhull  andemu  22:32, 6 August 2008 (UTC)

As this is my first GA review I'm going to put on hold and request a second opinion but my thoughts are - it's a really good start but there's a lot to do at this stage to reach GA status. Cavie78 (talk) 13:11, 6 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Hola. Personally I think it could do with a copyedit as some parts are unclear and/or confusing. For example the second sentence in the lead - I thought at first that by 'label' you meant 'record label', and then I realised it was a nickname, and then I was like "uh.." because well, it's not something you need to know straight off at the top of the article and it doesn't make sense to anyone who doesn't know the band. The "Background" section is full of stubby paragraphs; consider forking some of it off to a 'music' or 'musical style' (or whatever) section. It's also not great to have the sound clips like that in the middle of the text; see for example Californication (album) for how to include music samples without breaking up the text. You should probably mention the chart stuff again in the 'reception' section, or else include a section on the chart history (as per nearly every other album GA). Personally I'd put it on hold for the time being and allow Rodhullanemu a little bit of time to clear it up.  naerii  12:21, 7 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Thanks Naerii, have put on hold until concerns are addressed.Cavie78 (talk) 13:40, 7 August 2008 (UTC)
 * In my humble opinion the article has much improved and is now GA quality.  naerii  15:51, 9 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Thanks, I've still got some release information to add, shouldn't take long. -- Rodhull andemu  15:58, 9 August 2008 (UTC)

Ready
For a labour of love, I've learned a lot about this album that I really should have known before. However, I hope it's now ready for approval. The lead, I think now gives an overview of the album's history and importance, both of which are addressed in detail in the body. There is little about the recording sessions themselves, and nothing I think adds to the understanding. Have been unable to source any comments from Richard Thompson, despite his pivotal guitar parts, but again, I'm not sure they're necessary. Other commentators have described his input. As for a tour to promote the album, I don't think they did one, being too busy recovering from the crash and writing/finding material for the follow-up. If there are any remaining concerns, please bring them to my attention; meanwhile, I humbly propose this article for GA status. Thanks for all your input. -- Rodhull andemu  00:35, 11 August 2008 (UTC)


 * Passed, good work! Cavie78 (talk) 13:50, 11 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Thank you. -- Rodhull andemu  13:51, 11 August 2008 (UTC)