Talk:Unistellar

Please return article "Unistellar" to the article space, per WP:DRAFTIFY
Editor DGG,

I assume good faith in your move of the article Unistellar to Wikipedia "draft article" space.

However, I believe the article is notable per WP:GNG, as I said at the time I created it, and therefore, per WP:DRAFTIFY, I am requesting you to return to the article to the WP:ARTICLESPACE. Then, if you'd like to propose deletion, take it to AfD, where it might more fully be discussed. Cheers. N2e (talk) 01:48, 6 July 2019 (UTC)


 * I've moved it back to mainspace. I'm not going to list for afd, but another reference might make it less likely that someone else would do so.  DGG ( talk ) 08:54, 6 July 2019 (UTC) (this response from User:DGG was left on User:N2e's Usertalk page. Copied here so visible by all. diff

I am not a regular Wikipedia editor, but I struggle to see why this page exists. What makes this "Unistellar" startup with a failed/semi-successful Kickstarter more notable than the thousands of other startups/Kickstarters? Kwinzman (talk) 05:04, 24 February 2021 (UTC)

Amateur astronomy community and the Unistellar evScope
I just found an excellent thread on Unistellar from the amateur astronomy community "Cloudy Nights." This community has been following the theoretical promise, and the reality of non delivery, for over two years since the early company claims in 2017. I realize that the astronomer amateur forum is not a reliable source for the WP article, but reading the comments over two plus years does give a very good picture of the challenges of the product Unistellar is trying to do, and the non delivery of their product on the several previous target dates. Looks like they missed delivery dates in early 2019, and then a promise of June 2019, and the company is now saying Christmas 2019. Cheers. N2e (talk) 12:10, 19 August 2019 (UTC)

Contact by Unistellar employee
Note to the Talk page: I was contacted by Ludovic from Unistellar on my Talk page yesterday. Full context is there (diff). I have welcomed the user to Wikipedia, and have suggested (diff) a couple of ways that a WP:COI-editor may still yet help an article be improved: by identifying themselves with their company affiliation on this Talk page, and then by providing URL links to good reliable secondary sources that might be used to improve the article.

So, hope to see User:Ludovicnac here on this Talk page soon. N2e (talk) 03:22, 26 May 2020 (UTC)


 * ✅ — User:Ludovicnac has written substantive comments here on the Talk page on both 26 May, and again on 29 May. N2e (talk) 11:39, 14 June 2020 (UTC)

About users observing with their Unistellar eVscope since the beginning of 2020
Good day,

First of all, thank you for your welcome message. As many, I am both an avid user of Wikipedia and a complete newbie in terms of editing it. That said, I don’t see that as an issue here as I work for Unistellar and therefore will stay away from any editing. I will just therefore feed the Talk page with some content that may, or may not, be deemed acceptable by the community.

About deliveries, many have been using their eVscope since the beginning of 2020. Here are some examples of user activities. Observation records with an eVscope include the day they were observed. If Twitter posts are acceptable, here is what a Finnish user observed in March during a Messier marathon: https://twitter.com/petritikkanen/status/1241763428513075200 Professor Mike Merrifield, in UK, is also publishing regularly about his observations with the hashtag #Lockdownastronomy such as https://twitter.com/AstroMikeMerri/status/1263376026517807104

On YouTube, Prof Mike Merrifield got interviewed by Sixty Symbols about his eVscope: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=glOWZoFnB8w


 * Great to see this use (these uses) of the Unistellar evScope. While not impossible, it is generally more difficult to use social media links and YouTube video links as citations for Wikipedia article prose, as neither one is generally considered a reliable source at the get go.  So will be most straightforward to improve the article when and as we get coverage of evScope usage in secondary sources like astronomy magazines and such.  N2e (talk) 12:07, 14 June 2020 (UTC)


 * You are welcome, here are some recent reviews written by reporters having tested the eVscope which you could use as secondary (or primary if I understood well the meaning of primary here, as they've personnally used the eVscope).
 * https://www.droid-life.com/2020/04/21/stuck-at-home-review-unistellar-evscope/ (in English)

https://www.01net.com/actualites/on-a-essaye-le-telescope-numerique-d-unistellar-qui-voit-les-galaxies-en-plein-paris-1925828.html (in French) These are high-tech publications, reviews in astronomy magazines are going to published really soon. Ludovicnac (talk) 13:39, 15 June 2020 (UTC)

We have also recently organized our first crowd-sourced observation campaign, of the Comet ATLAS. Dozens of eVscope users in multiple countries gathered to make possible this collaborative image of the Comet. The SETI Institute published a release about this achievement: https://www.seti.org/press-release/fragmentation-comet-atlas-observed-first-crowd-sourced-pictures-citizen-astronomers


 * Has any secondary source astronomy media picked up on this press release, and written about it? N2e (talk) 12:07, 14 June 2020 (UTC)


 * Our observation was published in The Independent https://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/gadgets-and-tech/news/comet-atlas-photos-telescope-earth-sky-night-stars-a9471186.html Ludovicnac (talk) 13:39, 15 June 2020 (UTC)

If you are looking for reviews, you may find recent ones here https://www.cieletespace.fr/actualites/le-test-complet-de-l-evscope-d-unistellar-le-telescope-2-0 (this is a complete review, updating the previous Ciel & Espace article appearing on the Unistellar Wikipedia page) and here https://www.droid-life.com/2020/04/21/stuck-at-home-review-unistellar-evscope/


 * This sounds awesome, as I would expect Ciel & Espace to be the kind of secondary source that Wikipedia thrives on. I will look at it, although I don't read French, and will see if I can find an adequate translation to improve the Unistellar article.  N2e (talk) 12:07, 14 June 2020 (UTC)

I hope you will find these information useful.

Best, Ludovic

P.S.: if anything is not correct in the way I formatted this message, do not hesitate to correct me.

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 * Welcome to the Unistellar Talk page, Ludovic! Glad you accepted the invitation to dialogue here.  I think you'll find that—as I myself have an amateur interest in astrophysics and observational astronomy, as well as citizen journalism and citizen science—I will be an ally in many ways in improving this article on the Unistellar company.  As an experienced Wikipedia editor however, I will both ask that we do it in a way that is compatible with Wikipedia policy and guidelines, as well as help you and other new editors learn a few of the basics about such matters.  To that end, you should definitely review a few of the pages I mentioned on your Talk page.


 * I will comment, inline, more specifically on your notes of 26 May and 29 May here on this talk page. Expect that in the next day or two as I find the time.


 * Please do note: when you post on talk pages you should sign your name using four tildes ( ~ ), and then the SineBot or other editors won't have to add the date/time info for you.  Cheers.  N2e (talk) 11:50, 14 June 2020 (UTC)


 * Hello,


 * Thanks for the update. Again, apologies if I am not using the right Wikipedia channel for this conversation.
 * Regarding availability, we beg to differ as numerous users are already enjoying their own eVscope since early 2020.
 * Here is a brief list of some social network messages (therefore published by users, and timed) talking about the delivery or first use of their eVscope:
 * https://twitter.com/AllPlanets/status/1210759057973243911
 * https://twitter.com/djulik/status/1210546200472109056
 * https://twitter.com/EMorrows/status/1222733209533808641
 * https://twitter.com/Brain0verride/status/1224347776114479104
 * https://twitter.com/acmishra/status/1224547930138267650
 * https://twitter.com/Oagenova/status/1234835290809937921
 * https://twitter.com/OlivierHer/status/1250988748483055616
 * https://twitter.com/PetriTikkanen/status/1241763428513075200
 * https://twitter.com/psrman/status/1243599112676823043
 * https://twitter.com/timruss2/status/1244918386296938496


 * There are also various eVscope user groups on Facebook where users are regularly sharing their observation experience with their eVscope:
 * https://www.facebook.com/groups/602701923854874/
 * https://www.facebook.com/groups/205421323845960/
 * https://www.facebook.com/EVscope-Users-Los-Angeles-100441591475771/


 * The eVscope is also being made available by resellers. You can now order one on Astroshop to get it in 3 to 5 weeks: the protection filter prevents me to add that URL, you can check that by going on Astroshop and typing Unistellar or eVscope.


 * About competition, please take into consideration what is a truly unique feature of the eVscope: it is not only a telescope but also a citizen science network. eVscope users can become citizen astronomers and contribute to discoveries about events like asteroids’ occultation or exoplanet transits. Check these releases for more information about citizen science:
 * https://unistellaroptics.com/leucus-asteroid-efficient-and-accurate-citizen-science-with-the-unistellar-evscope/
 * https://unistellaroptics.com/guiding-the-next-asteroid-mission-a-new-success-for-unistellars-citizen-astronomy/
 * https://www.seti.org/press-release/unistellar-consumer-telescope-will-help-astronomers-probe-exoplanets


 * Best regards,
 * Ludovic — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ludovicnac (talk • contribs) 09:21, 29 May 2020 (UTC)