Talk:United Air Lines Flight 629

2006 note asking for help and later update
I have been a registered member since the fall of 2005. I have a curiosity question, to help me to better understand how this posting system works.

The revisions to this article, made on September 28, 2005, were made by me. I added the fact that the Graham 629 bomb, was the second one to bring down an airliner in the united States, and then I went on to list other cases of airliner sabotage, including the 1933 UAL Chesterton crash.

I note that my nic, [EditorASC] does not show up as the author of that revision. Is that because I somehow failed to sign in, when I made it?

Thanks, for any help/explanation, which will help me to do a better job in the future.

--EditorASC 03:39, 27 June 2006 (UTC)


 * OK, that question looks kinda silly now, after I have done a few hundred revisions in Wikpedia. Needless to say, I now know where the revision record can be found.  EditorASC (talk) 06:47, 16 July 2009 (UTC)

Personal knowledge and unpublished information. Living persons.
I edited this page yesterday, but the addition was removed due to lack of citation (and perhaps because it was a bit out of context). I have known Raymond Pere and his wife since I was a child, about the time flight 629 went down. Both are still alive. I can probably get supporting evidence from United Airlines regarding the two pilots who avoided dying by deadheading back to Seattle on a different flight. Would this be sufficient for inclusion? Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.54.212.101 (talk) 05:22, 29 November 2011 (UTC)


 * Wikipedia is a repository for information, sumarized in the words of the editor, that has been published in the press. wp:notability, wp:RS, wp:five pillars may all help.  Unless the press has covered these bits of information, they won't probably belong in Wikipedia.  wp:BLP might also appears to apply. Shajure (talk) 12:39, 29 November 2011 (UTC)

Article about the bombing
An editor argues that this is about a crime, not a flight numbered 629. This does have some merit, I think. I wonder if the article should be moved to "Bombing of...", and a redirect from this to it.Shajure (talk) 02:58, 12 December 2016 (UTC)

Source for the pilot being a WWII veteran
Lee H Hall was the pilot when the plane exploded and crashed. The text has a parenthetical note following his name that says he was a World War II veteran. Is there a source for that? One Seattle newspaper said he was a pilot with United since Dec 1941. War service means he took time away from being a commercial pilot, if the article was accurate. That is entirely credible that he did, but I cannot find a record for his service so far. The Civil Aeronautics Board report is not visible online, though it was not used as a source for that remark. Thanks. --Prairieplant (talk) 09:44, 23 November 2019 (UTC)

Remorse quote
In 2006 a quote was added to this article:


 * "as far as feeling remorse for these people, I don't. I can't help it. Everybody pays their way and takes their chances. That's just the way it goes."

No citation was provided. Since then, a citation has been added, but that citation is from 2013, and likely took the quote from this article (or from Jack Gilbert Graham, into which it was copied). We need a citation for this that predates that edit.

"This reference is defined in a template or other generated block, and for now can only be edited in source mode."
I only started editing Wikipedia a few months ago and have never used source mode, so I don't know what any of this means.

I was trying to see what a citation was but when I clicked on it, it just said "This reference is defined in a template or other generated block, and for now can only be edited in source mode."

Can someone explain what this message means?

— Preceding unsigned comment added by Ranicher (talk • contribs) 00:24, 13 May 2022 (UTC)

Move discussion in progress
There is a move discussion in progress on Talk:1955 MacArthur Airport United Airlines crash which affects this page. Please participate on that page and not in this talk page section. Thank you. —RMCD bot 16:20, 8 June 2022 (UTC)
 * Outcome was that for flights before the name change the old "Air Lines" would be used.Shajure (talk) 02:54, 16 June 2022 (UTC)